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DBD's high cheating player base
Just had two killers (who usually play survivor) stream snipe me.
The first admitted it in chat
The second had the same name as the killer.
Why do so many players especially in this game think that by using external third party software that they aren't cheating?
I can fix the stream sniping with a delay in live streams
BHVR you can fix other 3rd party communications by introducing communications into the game AND ban programs like ReShade.
Rather than be lazy and not punishing / making exceptions for this type of cheating why not take action a reduce your cheating player base buying cosmetics…. oh wait…..
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Why is it important to say that those two usually play Survivor? Just curious.
And well, there is a difference between Streamsniping and using third party software. If you use your Twitchname ingame, you have to expect that Killers might streamsnipe you. Sure, streamsniping sucks, but to be honest, it is on your own risk if you want to advertise your stream.
I dont really understand this post, since the difference between streamsniping and using third party software is quite big.
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You're literally inviting them to do so by advertising. What do you expect?
Does third party communication mean Discord? And what does Reshade have to do with anything? These are all really different things.
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Survivors are more likely to be the cheaters than killers.
There's simply too much fun to cheat as survivor, like ''outplaying'' a killer with wallhack and speedhack. Getting a down as a killer with these things turned on certainly won't give the same ''dopamine boost'' effect. Also messing with Killer while being in SWF with cheats on must be the top tier extasy feeling to such people.
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It's about having an advantage that does not exist within the game itself and is obtained with the use of 3rd party tools.
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>Why is it important to say that those two usually play Survivor? Just curious.
More ways to cheat with the Survivor side of the game>And well, there is a difference between Streamsniping and using third party software.
No, streamsniping involves using 3rd party software external to the game
>If you use your Twitchname ingame, you have to expect that Killers might streamsnipe you. Sure, streamsniping sucks, but to be honest, it is on your own risk if you want to advertise your stream.
Post is to do with the prevelant cheating from the DBD player base but thank you for a solution. It does however prevent advertising the twitch channel.>I dont really understand this post, since the difference between streamsniping and using third party software is quite big.
See reply 2Thanks for your reply.
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>You're literally inviting them to do so by advertising. What do you expect?
Post is regarding the prevalent cheating DBD, there are rules in DBD excluding punishment which encourages cheating.>Does third party communication mean Discord?And what does Reshade have to do with anything? These are all really different things.
3rd party software is anything external to the DBD game such as Discord, ReShade, Firefox/Chrome stream sniping
Cheating is to have an unfair advantage-2 -
Wish I read all the comments, you've answered most of what I replied with.
Perhaps I answered my question that money is the reason cheating is encouraged in this game but for years this could have been a much fairer and balanced game at a basic core level.-2 -
Dbd's offical Discord has chat channels for SWFing. That's cool you think it's cheating but I don't think they agree. Lots of popular streamers openly use Reshade. Again, don't think they agree with you.
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Reshade is like nighvision in night shoot out its huge buff to one who has it because the missplays that would happen normaly have very minimal chance to happen.
Its for of cheating but DBD is run by normal cheaters that arent punished for it and risks are minimal.
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One could ''advocate'' that tools like Reshade is a sort of ''accessibility'' tool, but I'm sure the existing options in the game should suffice for a convenient play. If the options provided by the said thing would really help people who NEED them, then I'm quite certain devs would had addressed that thing. So far there's a neutral stance on this, but it's obvious that this thing can provide an advantage.
Discord is pretty much the same thing. I believe there's no need to elaborate what voice communication via such program does and how much impact it can have over the in-game options.
People who use these things may deny that these programs give any sort of significant advantage to them upon use as much as their heart desires, but that won't change the fact that their use is pretty much unfair. As for the devs - they simply don't want to ''upset'' the majority of their player base which ironically in this case ( as in many other problematic cases ) are survivor players since killers can't benefit much neither from Reshade nor from Discord Voice communication.
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Some people just want to win really really badly, and will take any and all measures available to do so. Stream sniping is just a risk you take
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I'm on console. I'm not pro Reshade by any means. But it's whitelisted so there's no official issue with it. The game is already built around people using Discord because it's always been present. Any balancing that happens will naturally include those results.
I believe there's no need to elaborate what voice communication via such program does and how much impact it can have over the in-game options.
Can being the key word. It usually doesn't amongst regular, average players talking to friends. I do about the same on comms or not, no matter who I'm playing with, maybe slightly better solo. Caring too much about your teammates has its own pitfalls. That's the part everyone likes to forget.
killers can't benefit much neither from Reshade
Um what? Most of the killer streamers I've seen use Reshade. Last time I checked in on momo he was pitching it (and simultaneously blaming it for his Oni loss on Toba).
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So for something like ReShade we have to note that they added a gamma setting, no? Is it perfect? Does it provide all the advantages that ReShade does? Absolutely not. But they did address that discrepancy somewhat. Console players are no longer left in the dark (literally). I'll also argue for ReShade's existence as a console player as I know of a number of people that use it specifically to be able to play on certain maps so they can play without sacrificing their physical health to do so. Yeah it's kind of cringe seeing the comp scene abuse it to the max and having a specific filter for every single map in the game so they can see 5% better but I'm on team "comp is kinda cringe" anyway.
As for comms, we have all the wonderful survivor HuD stuff they added uh…how many years ago now…time's going too fast help (3 years or something now right?) and more recently the hook stage thing for killers. Would it be neat if they added something like IDV's comms wheel to the game? Yeah, especially if they gave us a lore justification for its existence, with neat little animations and stuff to go with it ideally. Voice chat though…have you actually played solo queue in real competitive games? I don't think it'd make much of a difference in DbD and it'd probably drag in a whole bunch of new problems for everyone to deal with, least of all BHVR's moderators. People would jjust abuse the ######### out of each other in solo queue voice, or turn it off entirely (and then get abused for turning it off, or being in Discord instead of ingame voice). I do think that it's high time to show who is grouped up with who once people are loaded into the game, because that would allow people on both sides to more accurately play around 3rd party comms without introducing a lobby dodging problem, but…I doubt it'll happen.
Actively punishing people for using stuff like ReShade and Discord is simply out of the question. Like it's just impossible to moderate accuratelty & efficiently even if they wanted to. Which they don't and never will…friends play the game together, you'd be shooting yourself in the foot (with a shotgun) as a company to take that away. You're just inviting a new vector for false positives and other frustrations if you try to solve these problems with an iron fist. Some problems are better off being left well alone.
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Let me get this straight… are there really people complaining about survivors playing together on voice chat on
Discord… in 2026?
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>Dbd's offical Discord has chat channels for SWFing.
Indeed they do which of course is cheap and not in the game.
>That's cool you think it's cheating…
It's not whether I think it is cheating, having an unfair advantage over other players is by definition cheating.>…but I don't think they agree.
A definition of a word isn't decided upon by voting
>Lots of popular streamers openly use Reshade.
Yes cheating is prevalent in DBD, as mentioned in the OP.
> Again, don't think they agree with you.
Again, it's not a vote-4 -
I feel like the solutions have been posted in OP which obviously nobody is talking about.
Punishment for cheating isn't what has been posted, merely actually balancing the core game which BHVR continue to ignore unlike other games-1 -
A definition of a word isn't decided upon by voting
It kinda is. Society votes. Many definitions have changed or expanded over the decades and centuries by a shift in their common usage.
But you're right, we aren't voting here. It's about what BHVR considers cheating. It's their game, they make the rules. That's how all things work. Sorry if you don't like it. With this nonsensical semantic approach, tunneling someone out at 5 gens is cheating because it gives you an unfair advantage over your remaining opponents.
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Just wanted to step in and state that Discord (we have an official one), Reshade, etc are not considered Cheating and are not reportable.
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Make your name private? Stop generalizing everyone over an incident?
You're not the first or last person to get stream sniped. Happens on all games.
OP you sound so entitled and not taking any actions to reduce it from happening, so you push the blame onto the developer for your own short shortsightedness. Ratchet behaviour really, and shows a complete lack of self-awareness.
I'm not defending BHVR and I personally don't like their direction on many things in the game, but this is a "YOU" problem.
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I think youre confusing the word "cheating" with "advantage". Nobody is disagreeing with you in regards to using things like Discord or ReShade giving you an advantage, but if the devs green light it then automatically its not considered cheating.
The best way I can compare it to something thats outside the game is this video here:
One of them is at a VERY clear disadvantage with what he has to work with when compared to his opponent. Does this mean he's cheating? Of course not. Just because you are better equipped doesnt mean youre a cheater.
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It's not whether I think it is cheating, having an unfair advantage over other players is by definition cheating.
Given killrates are aimed above a proper balance-point, does that mean playing killer is cheating, too?
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Cheating in dbd have become common because the more competitive a game become the more cheaters will be involved. its only going to get worse, ive been in global elite in csgo, played esea,. i quit this entire game due to cheating problem, official servers had so much cheaters, in the begining it was tolerated a bit but it became so bad like it became unplayable, eventually cheaters will overrun dbd, wallhackers and speed hackers, ive had player with similar hours to mine over 12k blatantly speed hacking and wallhacking in the most obvious way, mind u i used to play fps competitive for 11 years in tournies. i can spot those type of cheaters instantly, the entire match was obvious cheater, dude never get banned lol.
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