Regarding False Accusations ~
Hi, guys! Recently, I've been harassed and targeted by a streamer 'cause I was playing survivor in a match where there was an Ace that was cheating, and the streamer in question was the Killer. He was beyong himself, and his moderator claims that Behavior has stated that survivors who leave through the gates when there is a cheating survivor in the match are "accomplices", and will be banned as if they were cheating as well.
Is that true? Can someone please link me Behavior's statement about the issue?
'Cause I did my job as a honest player and reported the Ace in the post-match screen. I went to his live to tell him I've reported the Ace as well and wish him good games, and in the end, got targeted and harassed.
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It's not an official answer but as long as you weren't cheating yourself, you should be fine. If you were repeatedly partied up that player then that may be a different issue. But if you weren't SWFing with them and you reported them then you should be ok.
Streamers (hell even normal players) will talk absolute rubbish and tout it as fact. Particularly when they're annoyed.
I've had a streamer accuse me of break terms of service in 2v8 by "double teaming" them alongside my killer team mate. They apparently reported me for cheating because of it. Obviously it doesn't break the rules of dbd. They were just salty they got outplayed and wanted to try and intimidate me. Had a similar situation with another non streamer who got salty i tunneled them out and let 2 other survivors go, they got another person to message me and say I'd been reported for breaking terms of service. Nothing happened either time because i never broke terms of service.
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That's just an immature streamer with terrible sportsmanship and emotional management skills being salty about the game and wanting to lash out at someone and picking whoever presents themselves for it. Don't bother taking it seriously. Just report the cheater in post game chat and move on, these people aren't worth wasting time or energy on.
BHVR have said no such thing as any survivor that escapes when there's a cheater in the game being responsible, although I think maybe if you actively queue with someone you know is cheating, that's bannable.
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Thanks for the answers, guys. I wish someone from Behavior could answer as well and help clarify, cause I've searched for a while and haven't found anything about it. Nevertheless, I have reported the streamer and his moderator for directed abuse and harassment towards me. I hope twitch takes the appropriate measures in this case. I had over 20 (out of 70) people accusing me, saying things like they wish I get banned for life, that I'm scum, that I deserve to go to hell and stuff like that. The others were silent or just calling me accomplice as well. It's frightening the power that a streamer has to influence his followers with misinformation. Crazy, really.
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you did everything right and obviously haven’t found such a statement from BHVR because it is utter nonsense.
How would casual players know they arent ‘allowed’ to escape through the gate in such situations? Its not even possible for every survivor to actually notice that there is cheating going on. And something like this could also lead to players holding you hostage when you did nothing wrong.So, please, don’t worry, even if BHVR isnt responding directly, there is really no reason to let people like this make you feel so insecure. Good on you for reporting this behaviour as they likely will do this to others as well.
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Ive never seen a round where a survivor was cheating and the rest didnt leave the gates because of it. Half the time people dont even know theres a cheater till the killer calls them out in the end game chat. So i highly doubt it works like that. Its more of a courtesy thing like you don't feel like escaping for free due to the other players cheats so you stay to make it up to the killer player - by choice. But for some reason they were convinced its mandatory and reportable.
Everyone runs into players that take things too far, at some point. Ive had someone fully ban my steam name that i had for over 13 years and recieved thousands of compliments about how funny it was over the years. it had me scared enough to try the hidden name mode for a few weeks. Eventually things went back to normal but still. Theres people out there thatl attack you with everything they can even if you didn't do anything.
Im sure you'll be fine as its pretty hard to report an actual cheater these days let alone someone that wasn't cheating, even if they used video proof all theyd see if you playing normally and leaving and theyd see you report as well to confirm u werent with them.
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The thing is, sometimes killers will try to convince you that a person was cheating, just because they lost.
I was playing with my partner (sitting next to me) and four of us escaped. Straight away the streamer said my partner and one of the solo survivors were cheating in a duo. I explained I was a duo and could see his screen. He then accused me, my partner, and the solo player of cheating. I just laughed it off because I knew he was doing this to save face in his chat.
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I wish someone from Behavior could answer as well and help clarify, cause I've searched for a while and haven't found anything about it.The EULA is relatively clear about what is banable (https://deadbydaylight.com/eula/)
I don't know if you'll get a BHVR answer, they don't seem to like to put the policy anymore in writing than exists in the EULA.
Practically speaking, I can't imagine this being an issue just on the scope of what BHVR would have to look at banning.
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That's wrong of course:
You are not forced to leave the match or ######### on hook. As long as you report the hacker and you don't work with him obviously you are safe (honestly, bhvr won't even be after you if you don't report him and also not even if you just played the round and you didn't hack yourself).
Whatever the moderator smoked there - he should probably stop xD
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Streamers are rarely taken seriously due to them being some of the most fragile people that believe that being they are always stream sniped when they never win a game and the world is against them. They also believe that the world should bow down to them. I don't know whats worse a reddit mod or a streamer.
A YouTuber on the other hand is much scarier because 99% of the time they aren't giving false accusations and mostly rant of the game as well as see everything as a challenge. You aren't guilty just for playing a game.
As someone that does YT and even though I haven't touched DbD for a bit and as much as I want to return the game isn't in the best state in a way where I can't find it enjoyable I absolutely despise streamers who give out the "guilty till proven innocent" and give out false accusations like candy. I bet the streamer has a past of false accusations.
Oh also if any streamer reads my post and gets mad let me put in a wise input from someone who posts stuff on YouTube: OBS and Streamlabs has a delay, use it or stop complaining about stream sniping because its your own fault for not giving a gap in your stream.
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That is definitely not something we've said! And I'm sorry that you had both that in-game experience and that experience with a content creator :(
If you were not participating in the cheating, not in a SWF with them - there's no way that could come back on you.
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Oh geez, I’m so sorry to hear that. I hope they weren’t in the content creator program. Regardless, you did nothing wrong. Reporting was the right thing to do.
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Lol, so if a player,, who you've got no connection to, is cheating you should just let your character get hooked and die? That's about as logical as: "if you're in a shop and there's someone stealing, you will be charged with theft aswell". Don't sweat it, you're fine
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Thanks a lot for clarifying it, Mandy! 🥰
I do play with a lot of people from unofficial discord servers, such as Dead by Daylight Brazil, Dead by Divas (😂), but so far, I haven't noticed anything weird or cheating behavior with the members. Everytime I do, I report using the in-game system and explain why I'm reporting. If I'm suspicious of someone, I usually write things like "High chances of being a cheater due to…" or "It's worth investigating 'cause he's read my aura even though I had self-preservation active at that moment".If we all do our part, I'm sure cheating will become less and less common by the day. Thanks again!
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Subtle cheaters have people paranoid, I swear it. I got accused of having instaheal cheat and I'm screaming "Autodiadact is right there" in the postgame lobby. I guess they saw me luck out with 5 stacks and 2 skill checks, which got the heal off before they got to me, and that was enough for them.
I've also seen people call things sus without outright confirming when they've been beat. I've hugged a rock against a huntress and had people hit me with a "Hmmm" after because they let me greed the pallet 6x over.
Subtle cheating is way more damaging long term than the obvious trolls, because it erodes trust and gives some players struggling with their ego an out. And, in total honesty, I've had some killer games where I've been very unsure about the frequency I was losing 50/50s. Could be pure luck, could be walls. A proper banwave cannot come soon enough.4 -
Yeah some people don't play both sides so they don't really even get how things work on the other side. There is several bug reports of people reporting normal killer power interactions as bugs. Most recent ones were person not understanding how and what revealing Ghost Face does. Another was person reporting Deathslinger's chain breaking to be bugged as they got hurt with it when that is the normal thing that happens if it gets broken.
This game is really complex with all the characters, perks and power combinations so I understand people from knowing everything and sometimes contributing something as a cheat when if they would see the viewpoint of the other side they would realize there was no cheat.
I still state it that luck is big thing in this game sometimes you are just lucky to do the right choices all the time. I have had that happen to me as survivor or killer while looping and I also have had the worst luck where everything I do is the wrong choice.
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Behavior has been issueing some bans recently, against save injectors and cheaters, but I couldn't agree more. You said what most people struggle to find the right words to say. As of today, we are facing one of the biggest cheating waves we've ever faced. Some cheaters are stupid enough to gloat about it. It's crazy, seriously. We need ban waves and perhaps a new anti-cheat? Something stronger than EAC, 'cause they usually get banned and buy new accounts on those ''x-mals'' websites for 5 bucks, 10 bucks, and start cheating again and again and again.
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