Nerf or Rework Sprint Burst

You hit the nail right on the head, though unfortunately if they haven't nerfed it by now I kind of doubt they ever will. I don't understand how so many people think this level of strength for a singular perk to have is at all healthy or okay. Perks should not be the determining factor behind a win, it should be skill and effort.

Sprint Burst isn't your problem.

And the goalpost gets moved further and further. Killers know that if they complain enough, they get more and more from the Devs. Now Sprint Burst is the target, once this is done, we will see people calling for Lithe-Nerfs.

You dont lose games because of Sprint Burst. You lose games because you are not as good as you think you are. Try to improve instead of getting everything nerfed.

Feel free to downvote, this is also easier than trying to become good at a game.

What about m1 killers that doesnt have ranged ability or great mobility? F them, who cares?

I even wrote that those should be buffed. But you wont increase their playrate if you nerf Survivor-Perks. As I said, people will not suddenly stop playing Blight or Ghoul when Survivor-Perks get nerfed, since they will just have easier games with them.

It wont make them suddenly more popular, but way less frustrating for sure, since SB is one of the Most popular game.

If killer is less frustrating, u know what will happen? Some players might consider using them

And you didnt understand what i said with blight and ghoul. They. Dont. CARE. ABOUT. S. B.

So nerfing SB wouldnt benefit them. It would benefit those weaker

Perks can and do win matches though. I've won matches because of Nurse's Calling, and I've lost them because of 4 SBs against a 4.4. Same in survivor. My current 60% ER is because of perks, items, and offerings, not so much skill. I lose a lot of my survivor matches solely to annoying builds as well. If anything, perks in this game often overshadow the need for skill. RNG and luck accomplish more in the average match than actual ability.

As I said, people will not suddenly stop playing Blight or Ghoul when Survivor-Perks get nerfed, since they will just have easier games with them.

These killers already don't care about SB though. I don't want to see all killers get mobility, I'd like to see killers like these knocked down to a slower pace. This is sort of a loop. Can't nerf fast killers because of haste, can't nerf haste because of fast killers. Then just do both at the same time, I guess? Something should change. But this community is so resistant to even minor changes that it feels impossible to do anything, so we're just stuck.

and another one who cant read.

The problems are:
-Meta on Survivours rn (perks items etc)
-High tier killers (with perks that when used on lower tier killers arent as good) since they most of the time ignore meta perks on survivours

The problems arent:
-Low tier killers

I never use exhaustion perks, thanks to that i get told im playing wrong cuz you need at least one exhaustion perk alway??? i prefer perks to help gens get done, or save my team in a bad spot

U know what is a fact? Survivours being boosted by SB. Lithe at least they need to find a window.

Normally gen regression isnt an issue. It starts being an issue when used on high tier killers, which can activate gen regression perks way faster than normal killer due to chase power or mobility.

BUT EVEN WITH THAT. Survivours can win without perks if played right.

Sprint Burst isnt giving you chase time, it delays time before you start chase, which you can do if you know how to play, and thats why m1 killers struggle so much, because they cant create pressure if they cant injure you. And then after you get injuted, you gonna pop that medkit you brought and remove that. And let me say this again and again and again. SB does not counter high tier killers, which are the problem when they are using gen regression on top of that.

And you tell me im biased for saying that

You can have something that assists your performance in chase. You cannot have something so powerful that it pardons you from needing to perform at all.

Pallet density. There used to be a lot of dead zones, meaning having exhaustion of some kind was necessery. Now it is not

The only exhaustion i would buff with QOL is Balanced landing, because it has weird activation method that doesnt work all the time. I think there was max fps involved with it.

And what is your point in bringing up Dbd from 10 years ago? Just because survivours are not as strong as they used to be, they are still strong.

"You killer mains hated so much" like You mean Old dead hard wasnt broken?

Even players with 10k hours have problems with swfs and broken survivour meta right now, even tho its far more balanced than 2016 dbd when the game just launched, meaning it would be unbalanced.

1 thing we could probably mention is map rng. Sometimes map has way less good loops, and sometimes it Connects Jungle gyms making basically infinite loop. Meaning both sides suffer in some scenarios.

What is skillful about SB+Vigil? This combo only cripples low tier killers, they dont need that.

And i will again for a hundreth time say, killers have braindead perks as well, grim embrace, pain res, dms etc. hell lets throw devour hope and noed into the mix as well

To make survivours understand how annoying it is To Face sprint Burst. Its just as annoying for killers as those old meta was for survivours

And SB has the downside that it gets used whenever you arent exhausted and start running. If you use it whenever it can activate, it ends up shooting you in the foot. Getting exhaustion to 99% recovery is a BIG part of using SB effectively, which contradicts with survivors having to do objectives. Lithe needs a vault, they can refuse to vault something to keep it for a better window which can end a chase right then and there, even if it meant taking a hit earlier. 99% on Sprintburst will definitely extend the chase by up to an additional 30 seconds if using perfect pathing.

I'd also argue gen regression IS an issue, because tunnelling and slugging exist and gen regression perks dont change. You can tunnel 1 survivor out from the start of the game, and still be able to activate Pain Res 3 more times followed by Grim Embrace activating for 40 seconds, despite the impact of each trigger being significantly stronger than before. And all you need to pull that off relatively consistency, is not face a 4 man SWF. 50% of players play soloq. So it's quite a consistent strategy, especially on mobility killers, which are 70% of the killers you face.

And survivors can win without perks, if they are extremely in-sync and play as if they happen to have access to constant information to a point they have perfect comms, the killer makes quite a few mistakes and doesnt really get any value from perks or addons.
Killers win without perks a lot more consistently. Plenty of games where killers brought 4 hexes that all got cleansed within the first minute and they still won.

So yeah, you're biased in demanding a nerf or rework in both those perks. The total amount of time they save on good survivors facing a good killer tends to be lesss than the amount of time a good killer saves by only running Lethal Pursuer. And Lethal Pursuer on its own isnt really good, most killers use it to support other aura perks and addons.

Can they be boring? Yeah, sure. I can get behind that. But that's not a reason to nerf or rework something. As to play the "whataboutism" card, slugging is much, much more boring and is a basekit mechanic that everyone can use. Been in the game for 10 years, has not gained any basekit counterplay. SB and Lithe have both been nerfed (shared exhaustion mainly), and have a LOT of counter perks. Mindbreaker being one of the strongest ones as it requires walking before survivors can sprint away.

I think this simplifies the game too much. It's like your approaching it as though all killers bring slowdown and all survivors extend chase with exhaustion. I run stealth perks which often makes my chases end very fast. This is hard to quantify in chase times because the killer's time is still being wasted while they look for me, it's just not a visible metric like chase time. There's more than one way to play. The majority of people I play with don't use Exhaustion, and there's no way to know how much it's truly extending chases because it's not that simple.

I think many Exhaustion enjoyers also fail to recognize when those perks are bad for their team as a whole. If I'm killer and I'm approaching someone and they're slow-walking away, waiting to use their SB, I'm going to turn around and ignore them until two people are dead and I've got time to deal with that. Taking a target off your back puts it more squarely on others. Lithe has issues too. If I know someone is trying to get in position to Lithe, I'll often cut off the vault, or if I'm a ranged killer, predict the trajectory and down them. Sometimes efforts to extend chases actually just end them, one way or another.

I'm certainly not defending slowdown though. If I had it my way, I'd delete the top Exhaustion and slowdown perks from the game. I don't like either meta.

Because I play random perks I rarely have exhaustion perks and have to admit you don't need them when you just play with that in mind.

Yeah I don't believe they're needed at all. People are just used to them.

Like so many people rely on the same perk builds so they rarely change anything play the same way and never really learn anything new. I find it interesting when I basically find some odd synergies with perks just because I play how I do. The most interesting one was that you can heal yourself full health while in Trapper's trap if you have active Moment of Glory and it heals you while you are in the trap.