Jason is too oppressive for solo queue

Yes, flyby jav grabbing thing is the only complaint i have so far. It should should at least take a little bit of downtime, that would be bring him more in line with other killers like the huntress, trickster or plague that have to grab their power from somewhere.

All you have to do is Crouch walk when he goes into his power. Avoid Lockers because of Killer instinct and stay out of the line of sight when Looping. If you can counter Huntress and Spirit. You can counter Jason.

I hope this helps you out

He already got nerfed from PTB which I think was valid. Especially his zoning. It was stupid strong. However, he was B Tier at best. I really think more nerfs are gonna hurt. I don't think people are giving him enough time to get adjusted to his kit when it comes to versing him in my humble opinion. I am not against balance and fairness, that's majorly important especially when we have killers like Ghoul that got bandaid slaps for nerfs instead of hitting the actually issue.

I came back to the forum after a long time, assuming it would be full of whining as usual, and it was exactly as expected.

Of course people don’t know how to deal with a killer that has just been released, or in what situations they will use their power. That’s completely normal.

Killer players also learn by repeatedly using the killer while survivors escape from them. They learn through trial and error.

But running away from that learning process and saying, “It’s boring because I can’t escape,” or “They’re too strong, nerf them,” is a bad habit among survivor players.

Try using Jason yourself and learn what kinds of locations and timings make his power effective. If you do that, you’ll start to come up with some counterplay when you play as a survivor as well.

If he really is too strong, then I do think a nerf may be necessary. But I’m honestly tired of people immediately shouting “too strong” and “nerf them” every time a new killer is released.

Will I attempt to learn counterplay on a newly released killer? No instead I will call for nerfs because I don't understand the counterplay and therefore Jason must be OP.

Before you get your pitchforks I haven't even bought Jason and played survivor against him all day yesterday and do I love playing against Jason? No, not particularly considering he makes games mega slow and he has similar counterplay to hag which I think is why most survivors are going to hate going against him but that doesn't mean he needs nerfs.

In chase you're just looping a fast huntress which isn't terribly difficult if you have experience trying to bait hatchets. As for mist form you just have to take your time against it and watch the grass to see if Jason is around like with Spirit.

I will say one issue that might require a change that I'm running into is the game stalemating really quickly against Jason because if he's in mist form and nobody is detectable he can just stay in there forever and then he won't leave it cuz he can't see anyone and no survivor is going to do anything cuz they don't wanna be found so everyone is just kinda sitting there. So the amount of time Jason can stay in mist form might have to get limited just so gameplay can actually happen.

Yep, Omnipresent Evil absolutely needs a nerf, but I'll keep playing as and against him and share more thoughts later.

While the learning curve does go both ways, another factor to keep in mind is that these are not brand new mechanics that we're dealing with. His projectile is very much like Deathslingers while curving like a half charged Huntress hatchet. Its not far fetched for killer players who have experience to have an easier time picking Jason up.

Also the devs have often only nerfed as needed when chapters come out. Ghoul is a prime example of a killer that the devs were actually very hesitant to nerf. They've been micro nerfing him this entire time because he was too strong, but also because of how annoying he was to face. There's also a good handful who have received immediate buffs after release, and even more buffs later on. I remember Dracula being buffed out the gate and it took months before he received any proper nerfs. Today he still sits very comfortably in A tier.

Well its called a Jump Scare so screaming makes sense.

Every killer is oppressive in solo queue.

Personally I think he’s very fun to verse. Most of the time it’s a total team wipe because he’s so new and people don’t know how to play against him yet. I think my only concerns so far is that there doesn’t seem to be much cool down for his OE, it seems a bit short along with how quickly he can throw spear after spear because there’s so many of them around the map. So even when he misses and he’s slower he can very quickly get another one.

(Also it can hit 2 survivors at once which is kinda crazy. I had just unhooked someone in midwich upstairs and as we know those hallways are extremely tight with only 1 way through, he threw the spear when I unhooked and it went through me, and hit the freshly unhooked survivor. It was a tight hallway so there was literally only one way we could have gone so there was no avoiding it, and she lost her BT as soon as her feet touched the ground. So you can’t take protection hits, which is unfortunate. It was funny though, we were a survivor skewer!)

Personally I don't find Jason fun to play against, maybe it's because I keep getting him 20+ matches in a row which is understandable 😅

I just think the reality is that people who are good at killer are the first to buy and play as him and so it looks like Jason is probably a little bit more overpowered than he actually is.

I do think his ability to make survivors scream just punished survivors actively doing something too much and it encourages survivors to run urban evasion and hide in the corner which I guess stretches the match out and forces more of a patient play style.

I do think he's going to get nerfed hard and it'll be an overcorrection after maybe a few weeks, he's not one I want to buy because he's going to be very popular and honestly I'm getting bored of him already 🙃

I think I just like Dracula and some of the other unique killers too much for Jason to be interesting to me.

Right on, I get that. I think the biggest thing is that any new killer will have somewhat of a learning curve, as people are unique in their skillset. After watching some gameplay, I definitely see the other side as well. It may seem like a breeze to some, but others (the majority) are still having trouble learning how to handle him.

But good luck on the Voorhees journey, Godspeed Spiderman!