Stop hard tunneling.

Gen kick regression, removal of gen taps, 90s second gens, bloodlust, nerfed infinites, nerfed main buildings, nerfed map sizes. Since apparently every feature added to the game is a perk. The amnesia about what your favorite side also receives is truly remarkable.

reducing the time to do somthing is not the same as having entire better perks added base kit. when will you survivor main learn that the game is survivor sided your just bad. also want to talk about not remembering, remember how apparently killers didnt like being handheld because im sorry thats a bold face lie survivors didnt like killers getting stuff like them. this game is every us vs them because the devs treat killers as the them look how they treat pallet density a massive buff to survivors as a quality of life change and how they use kill switchs on killerin nano second but leave or straight up tell survivors how to abuse perks like with the infinite items.

Calling someone who you don't know anything about and who I know for a fact plays killer a survivor main while spouting out some rubbish about us vs them in one statement is peak irony. You've also done nothing but cry about killer and blame survivor for everything and have the nerve to tell someone else they're bad.

Ya im actually im actually in higher mmr the game is objectively survivor sided but because survivor suck so bad at this game and just give up and go next the data doesnt show that. If yiu really think thid game is killer sided your hust showing what yiur true skill level is. Go look at comp they have to ban so much from the survivor side to give the killer a chance in un restricted matchs sirvivors 4 outed and killers never even one there was a single tie and that was from the best Billy player on hid best map and he had to hard tunnel them out. Survivors objectively have more tome to do there objectives them killer sense looking at the numbers it takes 340 seconds for Survivors to do all gems open gate and leave whole it takes kilelr 600 second with 30 second chases to kill all the survivors. You just do not knlw this game well or dont understand data like the devs dont if you think this game is killer sided. Numbers are my thing and extrapolate data from large models for life and death decision for 6 years and I can tell you ad a professional the devs of this game do not understand there game they cant even understand why people get slugged the most on game one of the most pallet filled maps in the game.

Coll yet another person not understand why a 60% kill rate is needed for a 50% winrate in killer senses its an asim we have to use middle school math not first grade math. When you have 3 negative out comes for kilelr and 2 positive out comes for killer you need 3 kill avrage per game to have a 50% win rate meaning a 60% kill rate to equal that 50%. Now let's look at survivor we can go back to first grade math they have 1 good out come and one bad out come meaning if escape rate for survivor is 50% they get a good out come 50% of the time. So no the 60% which most killers dont even reach isnt kilelr sided its to make the game balanced because this is an asim not a normal pvp game. This community and the devs in particular need to learn how to read numbers properly and understand them its not hard its basic middle school math .

Ill stop when the devs stop they are the most us vs them mentally thus form is mostly survivors posts that support survivors talking points are boosted but ones that go against it are downvoted to hell. When in nearly every stream they talk about survivors as I us we and killer as them. You dont like i use it because if I can use the us vs them arguments it dumpsters alot of survivors arguments I play both sides I like both sides but survivor mains are more toxic to everyone even other survivor players while its rare if ever I play into a toxic killer I had one call me an Italian slur because of my name but funny enough I heard it first from a survivors the day before (im not Italian by the way I had to look up what it ment and its not nice to say the least)

Also the reason you dont keep reading is because your identity as a survivor is being threatened so you dont want to look at argument that are against your side. Your doing just as much us vs them when you ignore argument because tou dont want your side hurt or exposed.

Also the game is litteraly built on us vs them its an asim its cant get more clear cut us vs them. And the devs feed into it showing they are on the survivors side with how they talk. So when they devs stop ill stop.

Assuming your 340 to 600 second numbers are accurate for the sake of argument:

Regression events never occur? Survivors never spend any time healing? Survivors never spend any time unhooking? Survivors teleport directly from generator to generator? Killers never push more than one person off a generator at a time? Hex totems that need cleansing never exist in matches? Killers can't apply pressure to a generator without fully committing to a 30 second chase on the survivor?

The 340 and 600 are the base each side pulls back but survivors have a stronger base they have chase extenders like sb lith overcome while killers do habe regression only one sides main time extensions being nerfed while the other side has not had theres nerfed as well as getting more time extension tool wirh pallet density with the "quality of life" another thing showing which side the devs balance for.

I realize it’s hard to balance the game for Killers, SWF groups, and solo players alike, but as someone who plays in a duo (I wouldn't even dare play this solo), I feel like I’m at a significant disadvantage. I understand that tunneling is often necessary for a Killer to secure at least one kill; it’s a more complex issue than it seems. I haven't really played the event because people say it’s heavily survivor-sided. I can only imagine what it’s like for Killers in an event like this—it’s probably tunneling in 10 out of 10 matches. I think the "cages" from the 2v8 mode could be a solution; the anti-tunneling PTB changes were incredibly unfavorable for Killers and were never going to fly. On top of that, they made the mistake of nerfing one of the most popular anti-tunneling perks.

What about separating competitive matches from casual ones, using mechanics that favor the Killer without the need for tunneling? In an era of streamers playing all day and chasing win streaks, the game has never been more competitive, and solo players often end up more frustrated than entertained.

So, it’s a good idea. They would need to create a mode for casual players. The problem is that you’d still have "tryhard" players in both modes, so I think the balancing issue would get more complex, and the imbalance might even worsen. The real questions are: how do you make the game more dynamic without relying on cheap tactics? If they eliminated or reduced "tunneling," winning matches against high-level survivors would become practically impossible. Increasing generator repair times? I don't think that's a great idea, considering it's already a somewhat tedious objective. Creating varied objectives? Maybe. And what about perks that address "anti-gen" strategies and "gen-rushing"? Would they be niche picks, like Borrowed Time?

Your idea sounds good, too. Keep in mind that the game's MMR is a joke. I get tired of trying to get friends to play, only for almost all of them to quit because they find it frustrating—like a beginner getting matched against players with hundreds of hours of experience. The friend I'm playing with right now actually had a really negative first impression and only decided to give the game a second chance after some time had passed.

And there's another problem. Even a player with limitations knows how to tunnel, which is the core issue. Most content creators do this and recommend the tactic because they try to teach the easiest path to success. How could we make this move unappealing to Killers—while still satisfying them in other ways—and ensure that beginner and casual players don't fall victim to tunneling in most matches? Satisfying both sides seems like a really tough challenge, haha.

No they dont survivors have all the tools they need just because the average survivor players sucks because of the constant hand holding the devs give and keep trying to hand hold more

As well killer has way less Rome to mess up sense they have no one to fall buck on unlike survivor who has peopld to fall back on so if a survivor makes a grave mistake it costs them a chase vs kilelr who it costs them the game.

go for it i loop well and run an unhook build so i expect it

In most recent dbd history killers got 5% kick regression against grab removal, anticamp, longer hookstates, longer bt and since you want to derail the topic with "amnesia" argument anti 3 gen is a basekit perk too, pallet density is still horrendous and borderline lose-lose double pallets are implemented at most maps now, the survivor ui is a basekit perk on its own too

I specifically excluded basekit bt from my argument to not waste time at pointless discussions about early dbd changes but here you are mentioning bloodlust and infinites as its somehow relevant to current tunnel situation, why not go further? lets add old mori/bnp to our arguments atp, the truth is that in last 3 years one side received 5% regression while other received 4 antihook and 1 anti gen perk basekit, surely killer is my favourite side but comparing another loadout at top of 4 perks to some map changes and old balance that was excluded by other early changes is deflection of initial point

The changes i mentioned came from the 6.1.0 update, the intended purpose of which was to increase kill rates from 50% to 60% (and the devs announced 3 months later that the update had succeeded in their goal). So I would argue that there was very little impactful compensation.

Regardless, as has been well established, both sides have received significant balance changes in their favour.

Nightlight is not accurate lol that's also been well established. I'm surprised people still refer to it tbh.

They'll continue to do so as long as it suits their narrative.

...isn't nightlight stats supplied by the people? Meaning it's only a piece of the players? And that it's only the games that these people submit, which means it's more likely to be faulty no? Which then wouldn't paint an accurate picture correct?

You vs. @Skittlesthehusky in a 1v1.
Go ahead, I'd like to see that

Not even a qualifier like a no gens done requirement? If the killer has a bad game vs a SWF or group of skilled solos and gets their first down after 3 gens pop, the killer has now even less chance of getting a kill and may as well go sit in a corner.

Even adding a no gens done requirement wouldn't be good enough as crafty SWFs would 99 gens to work around it. And they'd weaponize that basekit DS.

If such a mechanic were introduced, killers turn to 4 man slugging at 5 gens.

As I said earlier, it's a nuanced problem without an easy solution.

A good point about the gens. Weaponsing the DS is also just countered by getting one of the other 3 players. The basekit Unbreakable would help avoid slugging. 4 man slugging at 5 gens is just a sign of a bad killer, they'll do it anyway.