The constant nerfing of exhaustion perks

So basically making drama a useless perk, that class in 2v8 with sprint burst is pretty busted.

I mean if the perk is one of the things affecting them being played and we dont "want everyone to be dash slop" what is the best solution here? S tiers dont care about SB theyll catch up and hit you sometimes while its still going. A slower killer feels the pain of running into it multiple times. So they gravitate toward the killers who can do the former.

Yes, im aware of that. But a S tier killer or jason, or others youve mentioned like stated dont care about sprint burst. So a lower tier killer. Who does have to respect it. Is made weaker by comparison. Thus people jump to the ones that dont care. So then people gravitate to what we have now. Unless we want to lower all killers to be hit by it equally and then just make it the most broken perk in the entire game. I just wanna see the solution here. Because people wanna preserve the m1 killers being m1 (myers rework backlash) and not just throw haste on them. But this perk hits them more than any other. So i was just wondering if ya had the idea that wont eventually have to get it hit down the line anyway for being the hold w opposite direction perk.

Most solo Q teams lose to Sadako because somebody doesn't do tapes, gets condemned and dies too early.

She's the only stealth killer that gives survivors a big heads up she's close by, her lullaby. It's condemn that causes the killrate, not stealth.

Except that nerfing the strongest Killers will just not happen. There are obvious things you can do against Ghoul for example. They dont happen. There are things which can easily be nerfed right now for Jason, nothing happened.

Nurse gets a slap on the wrist for years. Blight got Nerfs, which did barely anything. But what is certain that more Survivor Perks will be nerfed, whatever is the next reason why Killers lose.

The ideal way would be to nerf the strongest Killers AND buff the weakest KIllers and THEN evaluate what needs nerfing on the Survivor Side. And this obviously in a much quicker way than BHVR is doing.

If only the same thought process was used for other things.

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it’s the other way around, we need to buff perks like Balance Landing and Smash Hit up to par, not butcher them.

The "constant nerfing" and it's the first time an exhaustion perk has been directly changed within the past what… 3 years? The last nerf I remember was Background Player and that's more of the perk was genuinely busted when it was 100% haste. It's still 50% and 5 second duration in fact it also has a lower exhaustion timer so it can pair with specific other exhaustion perks.

Sprint Burst was LONG overdue for a change ever since pallet density rolled out as it's a lot easier to just adjust the few problem children than change the whole family tree (the entire lower half of the killer roster) to accommodate for the problem children existing. Unless of course you want to give a super oppressive anti-exhaustion perk because I'll tell you what mind breaker for the lower half of the killer roster does little when all it takes is a few sprint bursts/lithes to waste so much time. Like even when we're finally getting a decent anti-haste it's tied to hex when…. vigil is still allowed to exist with no counter.

Just wish people would stop looking through a dirtied lens and see giving speed boosts NEEDS to be super conditional to be healthy for the game. That and we should be balancing around at least a competent level of survivor and not people who run into 3 walls in one chase. The whole reason I don't want to play a weaker killer is because I legit face 80% perk value over actual survivor skill and that 80% perk value easily makes up for survivors not lasting long in chase.

Of course, I know I'll get downvoted into oblivion because I went against grain but I'll take it.

It still has the same hold W problem, and it's free distance with no skill required which is not healthy IMO.

The majority of really good perks on both sides have fairly simple activation conditions. Lithe is much more interactive than sprint burst because it actually involves either pathing to a window or using up a removable resource, both of which are things the killer can plan around or otherwise do something about. Sburst is universally very strong regardless of almost any position, dead ends aside. Lithe is also much, much worse for macro movement as a fast vault will reveal your location without Quick And Quiet, so using lithe to rush for a heal on a teammate or to get somewhere important might as well be strapping a 'please come smack me' sign to your back.

Its also affected by counter options significantly more. Take mindbreaker for instance, even if you have vigil to reduce the time, walking for 3 seconds can actually affect whether you get hit or not with lithe - with sprint burst and vigil its kind of trivial to just ignore it in most chases, because you can use the speed boost the exact moment exhaustion ends. (Plus, you know, lithe actually caring about perks like languid touch or genetic limits). Unlike sprint burst it doesn't work as a get out of jail card against killers using ambush strategies, spotting someone visually isn't enough, you actually have to get to a vault point.

Also, I wish people would stop the cope on 'no skill required' when sprint burst being a problem is BECAUSE its far too much power for better players. Sprint burst is actually really not very good for newer players or people who don't have the perk down particularly well, its relatively easy to waste if you struggle with some of the decision making, the problem with Sburst is the lack of meaningful counterplay or restrictions on a perk that had an outsized effect once you got good with it. Its not a braindead perk stupid people use to cheese games or whatever people want to try and claim, its just overtuned for what it does and how.

you are losing 1 second on a perk and a complete melt down has ensued. what a strange community dbd is.

no one has an issue with lithe or overcome and neither of those perks are as useful and powerful as sprint burst is so to complain about this and make such comparisons isnt the source of a good argument.

the amount of 3-4x Lithe paired with 3-4 Finesse in my lobbies is what genuinely makes me revert to Ghoul. Everywhere I go, Lara is there to haunt me.

Don't see the part in my post where I said invocations were good or well-designed. When I say "risk" I mean things like Dramaturgy's chance to get exposed, or the risk of being grabbed from a locker while charging Head On.