Keep Crying Survivor Mains...

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@Poweas Oh, I know that. And I don't begrudge any of the loyal DbD fans their loyalty. I was just answering your question as far as my own experience was concerned.

@Poweas Oh, #########. Sorry about that. I just got back from an 11-hour school field trip to D.C. with my 9-year-old (we're in Baltimore County, Maryland, and a 70-minute bus ride home took 3 hours due to traffic). I'm wiped, and thought it was you.

I don't typically reply to the other poster.

holy ######### guys...

they are nerfing one killer. the killer that A: no one likes to play and B: is already the 2nd worst in the game.

like, before EVERYONE said that legion is extremely unfun to play against, so they take the frustrating part of his power away. dont act like you didnt expect a huge nerf when they rework him to be more fun to play against. the only way for legion to gain power and be fun to play against is by literally deleting his power and replace it with a different one.

TL;DR: they nerfed the 2nd weakest killer everyone agreed on needed a rework and like 20 people played.

i am not defending the BT buff btw. thats just dumb.

ppl think a killer is "unfun" and "op" and just start to cry about it and dc? hm, i feel like im getting a dejavu... wait, maybe this happened already?

"Well, that's just your opinion, isn't it?"

Of course it is. Anyone with a brain would have the same opinion.

"So, you admit the game is survivor sided? Despite the fact you posted a Pepe meme to make fun of people thinking that the game is survivor sided...?"

Because the game isn't survivor sided. Do you realize how many nerfs survivors have gotten ever since Curtain Call came out? Any GOOD killer can destroy a SWF (except a Depip squad type of SWF, which pretty much no one is going to encounter) as killers have wayyy more powerful stuff, including add-ons, perks. You also have Nurse and Billy, who have ridiculous addons. Moris also exist too. I am can literally go over on how Killers way more powerful stuff than Survivors do.

"Wrong, he was making a statement. And he was demonstrating how SWF is OP, he probably didn't want to bully killers."

Did you just read what I said? Nobody said SWF was balanced. There isn't a statement at all. He literally ruined killers days for no reason. Read my above reply again about SWF.

"You really don't think Survivors are the power role, huh?"

No, they aren't LMAO. If you honestly do get looped for 5 gens despite all the powerful stuff you have as killer, there is really something wrong (and it isn't the game). Almost 85% of loops in the game can easily be countered by ANY killer. Other loops are ones that the pallet MUST be broken (Shack for example), except when facing a Nurse.

Self-Care is garbage. Dead Hard is easily counterable. Mettle Of Man is a great anti-tunneling perk, you are right. I like running it for that exact reason.

OMEGALUL you actually just listed T-walls under a "good" loop. T-walls are HORRIBLE and are so EASILY countered. They are literally the easiest jungle gym to moonwalk (something you probably don't know how to do) in the entire game. Cow Tree is not near as good as it used to be. Groaning Storehouse is a problem, I agree, but you can just ignore a survivor looping it and go find another.

Good killers will obviously get looped by competent survivors, this happens everyday. But if you are going to use a ridiculous loadout against those survivors, the chases are probably gonna end pretty quickly.

"Camping is being a unskilled tryhard, not toxic. Toxic is teabagging and showing disrespect. You could argue toxic perk builds designed to specifically anger Survivors like Tier III Knock Out and blah blah blah."

Camping is considered being an "unskilled tryhard," but is still considered toxic nonetheless. It is most definitely toxic when doing it as soon as you catch your first survivor. Slugging everyone and making them all bleedout is toxic. Pig can teabag. Killer hitting another on survivor on hook over and over again is toxic. Literally a broken build can be toxic. Like I don't know what you consider being "toxic" on the survivor side, but the only I can think of is tbagging and running broken windows.

I am a killer main with 3.8k hours in the game. I know a lot of killer game sense and all the problems each side has and know what is balanced and what isn't in the game. It honestly just astounds me when killers are still whining about them getting nerfed despite all the buffs they have gotten. Legion was a huge problem at the moment (coming from both survivor and especially killer mains) he was released. He needed a rework BADLY, but they instead gave him an update instead, which honestly isn't even that bad. However, some changes they are making to Legion don't make sense (no bloodpools, full bar to use Frenzy, slower frenzy, and can't see bleedout timer). Most of the changes in my opinion are pretty solid.

@bubbascal

I think everyone spewing salt from both sides have a distorted view of what winning actually is in this game. Pipping is winning. Survivors dont need to escape to win, and killers don't need to 4K to win. and especially before the adjusted pip conditions yes, it was brutally easy to win. And I say this as a solo queue survivor main that plays both sides.

Also as a survivor main, I do agree survivors are more toxic, even towards other survivors. Get hook farmed in front of killer by guy not running BT. Person with bond/empathy leading killer to other survivors in hopes the killer will leave them alone. Hatch camping instead of helping push that last gen to completion or going for a safe rescue. I even get salty PSN messages from other survivors telling me I didn't do enough even if I'm at the top of the score board, sometimes above the killer. The entitlement and toxicity is definitely real. When I do toxic stuff, we all occasionally do it even if not on purpose, I at least message the killer an apology.

SWF is definitely OP too. On the occasions where I do join a friend we call out EVERYTHING:

"Spawned at killer shack. No gen, but the basement is here."

"I hear/see ------, so --------- is the killer"

"I'm on the gen in the Chapel. There is/isn't ruin."

"Killer just chased me past a Hex totem next to ---------. I'll try to lead him away."

"Pretty sure he has -----perk because I just experienced -----------"

"Don't bother coming to unhook me, I have Deliverance."

"Found the hatch in the corn field by the pig tree."

"Killer is Face camping me. Just get gens done while I hang here."

"Gate on the wall by the killer shack is open, I'll meet you half way and body block"

The game was never originally designed around this and its the main thing that unbalances it, in my opinion. Let Marth recreate his experiment but with no comms. The communication they had is what depipped all those killers. Everyone knew which gens they were all on, everyone knew exactly when the killer broke off chase, and everyone knew what each other was doing at all times. The simple act of communicating replaces the need for several perks.

Back on the topic at hand, Legion, I never thought he was too bad to go against, and I never had an issue playing him. He can be HEAVILY out maneuvered in tight quarters or in the corn field when he's frenzying. I do some of the dumbest jukes and they often work because the lack of scratch marks. If you're in his terror radius and he goes Killer Instinct, just drop what you're doing and bail out. I wont heal myself against Legion unless I need to go for a save, but I'll heal others and let them heal me. You just gotta play a little stealthier, pay a little more attention, and use a little unorthodox mind game.

My biggest issue with the change is the change to Deep Wounds. Specifically the fact that your terror radius keeps it from decreasing. There's no longer any pressure to mend it anymore unless you get BT against spooky Myers, invisible wraith, or crouching pig. Plus the fact that legion's terror radius doubles in size when he Frenzies. I understand his power is to spread out damage and apply pressure, but this seems more like it'll just make's mending even less stressful. I myself already go for hook rescues and totem breaking while bleeding out, so what is this really going to do for extra pressure? It feels very counter productive to me.

Why are so salty? What was even the point of this post?

Both killers and survivors whine and cry but not everyone does.

There are chill people on these forums, ignore the “crybabies”???

@Poweas Been there myself. Mine was in Overwatch, though. I was playing Paladins for a little while, and they have a guy in there named Viktor who is similar to Soldier 76 in Overwatch. When you M2 with Viktor, he scopes in. So, I jump back into Overwatch and play Soldier 76 while tired. His M2 is rockets on a cooldown.

Let's just say that it took almost three matches before I finally stopped wasting rockets trying to scope in. Was not my best night. Especially when you have well over 100 hours on Soldier 76.

What about my fun to play solo.

@powerbats You sure call a lot of people around here trolls. It's almost like if anyone doesn't agree with you they're just trolls and their opinions don't matter.