Legion is dead

@Bbbrian2013 Those people are gods and should be worshipped.

The point is, a lot of people don't like the change. Some people, like me, liked some of the changes and was fine with some of the things. But I love the Legion, and I have seen a lot of issues, I gave my feedback, things I felt would not make Legion overpowered, yet still somewhat viable.

I have seen people who gave good feedback, and they've been ignored.

My hope is waning, but I have (diminishing) faith that the devs will see the feedback and apply it for the next patch.

Legion is in a better place to receive some buffs now, the cup is always better looking at it as being half full.

PTB is a good place to provide "hey, I like this about Legion, hey, Legion is bad in these areas", they get tiring with how Legion, a good character design and idea was destroyed by their bad game play concept of him/her.

Music to my ears. Absolutely delighted with these changes.

Good.

They said the same thing about Symmetra at Overwatch and they somehow made a weak character even more woeful. Not to mention, she’s barely received any meaningful buffs since either.

I don’t have an egg in this Legion race, but I sympathize with decent Legion players and tbh thinking this will position Legion to get buffed sounds like a comforting lie.

Legion was wrongly designed from the start, there is no excuse to release a killer who had no counter play, that was the biggest issue.

Players also found a major way to abuse the power and make easy down happen, for a killer who's whole purpose was to be fun for both sides to turn out how they did negated the whole vison of them.

The devs stated have stated they are collecting stats on them now to see how they do and what they may need to change.

You can take that as a lie or whatever but it's happening, just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean it wasn't needed.

Sometimes you need to take a step back and realise why something happened and give feedback now on what can be done.

The ptb had many changed for testing some were simple numbers but major ones generally don't get overhauled before going live as they need a lot more testing.

@twistedmonkey Right, what about releasing MoM without testing, a perk being pure awful design that rewards you from ######### up ? What is the excuse for that? And why is the excuse for everyone trying to stop this perk from being "balanced".

They can't test thing on live when we have a broken matchmaking system. It's like having corrupt data. You can't balance a game right when for example: I with 2 friend with more than 1k hours plays a match with a killer with 3h.... and viceversa.

And about legion changes, the only thing that needed to be changed is the abuse of deepwound, but the rest it's uncalled nerfs to just make survivors life more easy and make legion even weaker, because he never was an op killer.

And here we are again, nerfing killers for new players with a bad matchamking and i assure you that doing this it's not for the healh of the game but a corporative action like some people are saying. Because no one with a clear mind can say that all those changes are good, the mayority are very bad.

Who said anything g about testing things on live? With stats they can remove the ones where they are of unequal ranks it's not rocket science but keep trying to find ways making it sound like they can't.

It wasn't just about deep wounds, FF being able to down people meant cheap cheesy down with not outplay, if you can't see that you were part of the problem.

Regardless of how long it took or where they stood as a killer in the ranks having it so any competent woild always down someone and the only tools the survivors have are negated was bad design.

You can have any tin foil hat response you want but your assurance means nothing, it's simply a player that is unhappy.

You say its not for that health of the game and then dont realise the game had the biggest drop in players since legion was released since 2017.

I don't agree with all the changes to them like not seeing blood for example whichnibhave my feedback on, I would rather FF and deep wounds were changed but I won't cry and stamp my feet about it, I will give my opinion and feedback on it.

@twistedmonkey

"FF being able to down people meant cheap cheesy down with not outplay"

Are you serius? Having to hit someone 3 times for a very long chase when at least 1 gen is powering up is op for you? Hiting people with his power until you down them was only viable when using frank mixtape, and only with that it was a "cheesy" way, but without it its not. So a neft was needed to the addon, not the power, and yet we get a power nerf *clap clap clap*

So for you a way to balance a game is nerf a killer until a survivor can sucesfully counter or escape any mechaninc he have? You know that this should be and asymetrical game don't you?

after playing against 6 legions i have to say that he is completely trash now. this wasnt a rework, just a huge nerf. the 4 second stun after frenzy kills him. also his power is just useless. im just doing gens instead of mending when legion is around since the timer stops. he is a joke now. dunno how to feel about it. but since im playing survivor more i guess its ok, ppl dont dc anymore xD

Luckily, none of the nerfs effect my playstyle.

The Spirit got like fifteen buffs after her PTB and release.

Excuse me while I do a happy dance on Legion's grave then.

@Irisora

Making assumptions I see, I actually play killer more so that negates that statement its around a 60/40 split.

That is what the devs want, everyone to have a chance so again maybe this game is not for you.

Something being assymetrical does not mean one side should be OP, this is not the game for you if you want that type of game, if you have trouble in a 1v1 maybe thats on you not being as good as you think you are and not the actual game.

Assymetrical means the game can get progressively harder and easier for one side as it goes on, in a 1v1 survivors are weaker that the killer, if you dont think that its on you.

You sound like one of those players who blames the game for your own mistakes, I dont win them all but I win the vast majority, you cant awlays win everything you know, I took the time to learn hwo to herd survivors where I need them to be, make them go the way I want around a loop so I can limit where they can go next, there is always a safe and less safe side for the most part fallowing me to get a hit, mind games are an easy way, moonwalking etc.

The changes they did to Legion were due to them not having counter play, its down to the original design that is the issue, I said it long ago the FF was a mistake as it was a cheesy mechanic and it took no work, you could down someone with no skill involved where as the others you need to be able to play and learn the game at least, the only ones who defended the original Legion were those who played them wrong.

Legion was never designed to follow one player, they were designed to hit multiple survivor in one frenzy, if you did not play that way then you werent playing them right, the changes do overly nerf them but as I said they have to start somewhere and once they gather stats they can adjust certain things about them, its not the sky is falling scenario you and a few others are making it out to be.