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66% of the ghost face perks are #########

Ksoni
Ksoni Member Posts: 607
edited May 2019 in General Discussions

Someone had to say that. This green perk called im all ears is laughable. It even has cooldown. Like it won't even trigger once for whole match. Now let's move to the obsession perk. Instead of making it 4 meters each token, make it 25%. Also it would be nice if it make red stain dissapear at 4 tokens.

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  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,168

    The perks are better suited for little or no tr killers, Myers might make better use of them.

  • TheShape78
    TheShape78 Member Posts: 712

    Honestly ...I have to agree. I was not very enthused by any of his 3 perks. But no matter, I have some other perks in mind for him anyway.

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807

    I'd say the gen blocker one is going to be meta depending on the cooldown (I mean it's almost on par with BBQ) the Obsession perk is going to be usable in specific builds but not otherwise and his new perk is only going to be useful if you are using the obsession perk and even then only kinda.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 14,472

    "I've seen your postings and see you're very Killer sided in everything."

    Playing survivor at rank 1 regularly since the games release makes me killer sided..OKAY.

    "The truth is... you want the game easier for you to 4K in. You can't take challenge."

    The truth is you're a low rank that has no idea what actually goes on in the game.

    "You really don't got much room to ridicule me about balance when practically all change for years now have been for the Killer side"

    Because the game has been survivor sided for years. That makes the changes quite obvious and logical.

    "And it was needed, but we've hit the point it's starting to go too far."

    You just came back and haven't reached red ranks on both sides. This is like saying killer is easy because you're 4King low rank idiots. That's not how this works.

    "And again, you want to ignore anything that isn't 4 Man SWF groups in red ranks"

    I havn't ignored anything.

    "Solo players like me would get screwed."

    I play solo 99% of the time. It is quite easy.

    "Casuals would give up before us."

    I think people actually like a challenge.

    "Killer Q's are already long. (it's slowing me down :/) Think there may be a reason? ;P"

    They are long because the game is still unbalanced in favor of survivors and the killers get tired of it.

  • Ihatelife
    Ihatelife Member Posts: 5,069

    Agreed.

  • TheGameZpro3
    TheGameZpro3 Member Posts: 699

    Hold on, I'm All Ears is actually REALLY good for Ghost Face. As Ghost Face can make his terror radius 0, I think it can have uses for him.

    Other killers I think it'll work for:

    Wraith (While Cloaked, no terror radius... 0.0)

    Pig (While Crouched, no terror radius... 0.0)

    And obviously, Michael Myers.



    It's situational, don't get me wrong, but I think it'll be incredible for the right killers, and it's on Ghost Face, which it works with (unlike the Doctors M&A)

  • VexTheHex
    VexTheHex Member Posts: 1,009

    Oh the contradictions. Oh my. Basically my points are invalid cause they are Purple/Green and those people's opinion's don't matter. But you're not ignoring the balance of the game play on those levels... but my input is void cause I'm not as high as you.

    Killer times are long... cause there isn't enough Killer playing. Oh my. That's not how it works. If I Q as Killer and it takes forever... it means there is a shortage of Survivors. If I Q as Survivor and it takes forever... it means there is a shortage of Killers. Currently, Survivor Q is fast and Killer Q is long.

    I'd love to rank back to Red (where I was every month in the past) on Killer but those long Q's are boring and eating my limited time. Anyway, even if I showcased 40 4K's at Rank 1 as new Legion with no add ons or whatnot... I know you'd still throw excuses out like "they must of been potatoes." (to clarify, Legion is in a horrible place and I know I wouldn't 4K with him at Rank 1. Plus he isn't even fun to play anymore to do so)

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 14,472
    edited May 2019

    "Basically my points are invalid cause they are Purple/Green"

    If someone told you the house you were building was being done incorrectly because they had built a house with leggos before would that make them qualified? That's basically this scenario. Playing at low ranks is a totally different game.

    "But you're not ignoring the balance of the game play on those levels... but my input is void cause I'm not as high as you."

    This is because you don't balance a game around low ranks.

    "Killer times are long... cause there isn't enough Killer playing. Oh my. That's not how it works. If I Q as Killer and it takes forever... it means there is a shortage of Survivors. If I Q as Survivor and it takes forever... it means there is a shortage of Killers. Currently, Survivor Q is fast and Killer Q is long."

    This is a result of the survivor mains growing entitled and unable to accept changes the game needs IE what you've been saying.

    "Anyway, even if I showcased 40 4K's at Rank 1 as new Legion with no add ons or whatnot... I know you'd still throw excuses out like "they must of been potatoes.""

    I wouldn't need to because you wouldn't have the opinions that you do.

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,823

    "They are long because the game is still unbalanced in favor of survivors and the killers get tired of it."

    People play survivor because: 1. They like co op games, 2. They can play with friends, 3. It can feel like you're IN a horror movie, 4. They prefer being chased as opposed to chasing, etc. etc.

    Biased mains will take literally anything and twist it to mean that their side is getting screwed over.

  • VexTheHex
    VexTheHex Member Posts: 1,009

    Keep hiding behind the "my rank is higher than you" argument. The game can't be purely balanced around the highest of the high Rank 1's. All the other ranks will go to hell with that. Being in the <10 ranks is not the same as Rank 20 or 15. Most of these people know the general game and are trying (not all), and if the game is severely favoring either side... there is balance concerns. There's not massive ones, but there are still concerns and tweaks needed.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 14,472

    These are also true and another reason killer que's are longer.

  • BadMrFrosty
    BadMrFrosty Member Posts: 1,100

    Usually there's at least 1 decent perk in the bunch. All of Ghostface's perks are.. like, I mean Jesus Christ.. how the hell did they come up with this #########? There's not a single understanding cell left in my body. At this point it has gone from mild inconvenience to massive irritation.

    So what they're telling me is that their perk designers sat down, looked at the state of the game when figuring out Ghostface's perks, and said.. "Yeah, these are all awesome. This will shake up the meta. None of these will feel like wasted development time."

    Really? REALLY TYRONE? HUMMMM..

  • Luigifan64
    Luigifan64 Member Posts: 1,124
    edited May 2019

    Yeah All Ears is literally just made to screw over Quick and Quiet players. It will have use on low terror radius killers as a sort of killer version of Alert; but yeah it’s usability is going to be fairly niché.

  • JawsIsTheNextKiller
    JawsIsTheNextKiller Member Posts: 3,456

    Give me 3 ######### survivor perks and 3 ######### killer perks and I am still happier than another old DS, MoM, Hex: Ruin or BBQ. No perk is balanced if it needs to be on every build.

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647

    Yes! I'm happy someone else noticed this!...Myers with M&A, wraith, pig, GF theyll be able to make use of these perks and it's awesome to see some perks directed towards them!

  • Kiskashi
    Kiskashi Member Posts: 1,043

    Yeah was thinking this too. Pig with this could be amazing. I’m more tempted to see how it plays with stealth killers than to say it’s outright trash...

  • anarchy753
    anarchy753 Member Posts: 4,212

    The attitude that some players have that "anything that isn't a free extra hit is TRASH" is pathetic. Plenty of us play survivor without just bringing the cheapest method of survival possible (4 safety nets for being ######### at survivor) and still do well.

    Kate brought us Dance With Me which has added a different element to chases where you can juke much more easily and has strong synergy with other rushed-action perks. But it's not a free hit, and you can't use it to teabag behind pallets more so it's "trash."

    Jeff brought Aftercare, a powerful aura reading perk that is exceptional for solo, or small group games. Breakdown, an informational tool and anti-tunnelling perk. Distortion, a direct counter to some of the most complained about killer perks in the game and a useful information tool for what perks the killer is running.

    Jane's perks are great utility, alternatives to Self-Care, significant duration stealth at key moments in the match, and, if it were working, a fun and interesting alternative to "just run faster" perks.

    Even Flip Flop is a perk that has huge potential to counter slugging and can have drastic effects when run with other slugging perks or saboutage builds.

    But no, if I don't get to turn off my brain and get 6 hits in a match that just don't count, it's a trash perk.


    Compare these to "I'm All Ears" which will never trigger once on 90% of killers? Yeah, THAT'S a trash perk.

  • Luigifan64
    Luigifan64 Member Posts: 1,124

    If it worked in TR, it would be way too powerful on Nurse seeing as it is a whole 6 seconds, plus it would become worthless on stealth killers, but let's see how well it plays out in the PTB, they'll always have time to change it.

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647

    Pig with I'm all ears is going to be interesting indeed... same with wraith.... and all the lower TR killers (24 meters) are going to be great with a combo of the 2 perks I forget the obsession perk name but that with I'm all ears is going to be good... the 24 meter killers will have an 8meter radius at 4 token... so hag with T1 myers TR while in chase...

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 14,472

    You are forgetting that it is only reduced while in chase, not at all times. IE you would never run it on any of the lower TR killers as you'd prefer M&A and using them both is counter intuitive.

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647

    No I said right at the end of my comment "while in chase" M&A has the fov yes which makes valuable for me personally because the fov sucks but when it comes to the TR at 4 tokens Myers would only have 0 TR at T2 making him like the perfect killer to make use of the ears perk...

    May be I'm wrong and I'm just trying to be optimistic but the idea the devs are pushing for is interesting imo and it's great to see perks that are especially good stealth killers

  • NeonAlien
    NeonAlien Member Posts: 328
  • TrueKn1ghtmar3
    TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 1,143

    If Freddy keeps his aura reading he could use the TR perk make him a 12m TR killer from there throw up the paintbrush and you have a 0m killer with 0 chance of dropping a chase.

  • TrueKn1ghtmar3
    TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 1,143
  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 14,472

    Well I'm pretty sure he's getting his addons changed so he wouldn't have that.

    They actually didn't specify about his aura reading but I would assume that is gone as well.

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807

    Even with no addon you could get it down to 0 with just 6 hooks

  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    Crotus Prenn? Only if RNG is godly in the survivors' favor.