Camping penalty

Its funny when they swarm hook and you pretend to leave then BAM cut them down with the chainsaw!

Honestly playing Leatherface why wouldn't you look to do this? It hits multiple people, when are you gonna chainsaw multiple people except at a hook rescue? Pretty much any killer that full camps all game won't pip unless you all die. I've camped and killed 3 people and not pip'd before.

The thing about camping is its also used as a last resort to get points and a safety. I'll agree that killers camping on gen 5 with ruin is a bit toxic but when you get looped and flashlight saved after 2-3 gens are done, you're pretty much ######### unless you camp and have the endgame snowball into a win, otherwise you're just letting them go.

I main survivor at rank 1 and there isn't as much camping, just really good billy, nurses and huntresses.

Russ76 said:

EpicFailTryHard said:

 gives the survivor bonus points for tying up the killer.

I agree. camped survivors should get distraction points, and those points should go up if the killer is actively hitting the hooked survivor as well.

Camping already has a penalty. Gen-rushing. You can fix a minimum of 3 generators in the amount of time it takes someone to fully camp a hook. It sucks for the survivor being camped, but unless they also implement a looping penalty, camping will have to continue.

As stated 300 times a day on every dbd forums :
This system has been tested already and heavily abused by survivors.
Also, you're not supposed to be able to save a hooked survivor if the killer is around. You CANNOT and SHOULDN'T be able to force it out.

@Grey87 said:

@RemoveSWF said:
You are not entitled to a free rescue.

You're not entitled for a free ko either but here we are with survivors crying about campers and killers crying about every thing that the survivors can use to not get downed because they for some reason shouldn't have the ability to get away.

Killers primarily complain about:

• Self Care, which renders hits irrelevant. It does not help Survivors get away.
• Looping, which lengthens chases to unmanageable levels. It does not help Survivors get away.
• SWF, which heavily tilts the game in the Survivors' favor. This can actually help Survivors get away.
• Gen rush, which heavily tilts the game in the Survivors' favor. It does not help Survivors get away during chases so much as it prevents Killers from having enough time to catch them in the first place.

Survivors primarily complain about:

• Camping, which is a problem of their own creation. It helps Survivors get away (besides the one being camped, obviously).
• NOED, which can be shut down before it even activates. It can help Killers catch Survivors, but Survivors have all the power regarding when this perk is available.
• The Nurse, which is one of the few viable Killers at high ranks. Even though she's been heavily nerfed since her release and sits at barely above 50% winrate at high ranks, because she's not susceptible to looping and can actually catch them, Survivors want her nerfed.
• The Hillbilly, which is one of the few viable Killers at high ranks. He's built the way a Killer should be, with good map control, decent movement, and a way to end chases quickly, which is why Survivors want him nerfed.
• Killer add-ons that give double damage. Even though every single Killer add-on that has any decent impact in the game has severe negative effects and can be countered, Survivors don't want to have to play differently, so they want those add-ons nerfed.
• Everything that requires a change in strategy. Even though there's not a single Killer perk in existence that can't be countered through gameplay alone (the same cannot be said about Survivor perks), Survivors don't want to have to adapt; they want to play in the exact same way they've always played.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander... Camping irks survivors in the same way looping irks killers. Yes its a pain but using the strategy on either side has its pros and cons which are up to the player do weigh out for themselves. Complaining because you're the one on the receiving end of either one doesn't change the fact that they are in fact viable. However rage inducing they may to the opposing side. Don't let bias curve your perception.

@Madhatter920 said:
Camping already has a penalty. Gen-rushing. You can fix a minimum of 3 generators in the amount of time it takes someone to fully camp a hook. It sucks for the survivor being camped, but unless they also implement a looping penalty, camping will have to continue.

you know that looping is part of them game it sucks but it happens what do you want survivors just to run in a straight line and only use the pallet once. i really think in real life you wouldn't be the ones living. a looper always gets caught thanks to bloodlust camping is like their the whole time and nothing really can happen but trading with the person on the hook. you think we ######### and moan about this and that but look at killers they do the samething so we all ######### and moan about perks and SWFs and blah body blocking .

@MegaWaffle said:
Here is a brilliant idea, play the game and stop complaining! Stuff is broken on both sides just accept this game isn't meant to be competitive and move on to the next match! This constant "back and forth" between killer and survivor is whats keeping the game from being fun.
I just got done with a match where the killer used a ebony mori and tunnelled everyone. No one quit out, we all tried to do gens and had a fun rescue resulting in 1 person escaping. No complaining about anything just played our best and for fun. We even sent a "gg" to the killer who (expecting hatemail) was pleasantly surprised and congratulated the escaping survivor. We all left salt free and happy.
Give fun a try!

👆This is what we need more of! I agree 100%

@Orion said:

@ShesArebel88 said:
What's good for the goose is good for the gander... Camping irks survivors in the same way looping irks killers. Yes its a pain but using the strategy on either side has its pros and cons which are up to the player do weigh out for themselves. Complaining because you're the one on the receiving end of either one doesn't change the fact that they are in fact viable. However rage inducing they may to the opposing side. Don't let bias curve your perception.

The main difference is that camping only benefits Killers if Survivors feed the Killer, whereas looping only benefits Survivors no matter what the Killer does. Get it through your thick heads - camping and looping are not equivalent in any way, shape, or form, because both put all the power in the Survivors' hands.
Camping is the only counter to hook rushing. Camping is the only proper response when the gates are open and you caught a Survivor. Camping is the only proper response to having 3 Survivors crouching around the hook the instant one of them is hooked. Camping is the only proper response to being followed to the hook by body blockers clicking their flashlights.

That is a blatantly biased response... Get this through your thick skull: the entire game isn't centered around you getting your way... You can call a pig a cow all day but it doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day, the pig doesn't magically change because YOU decided it should be seen as something else!
Camping is only beneficial to the killer if his strategy is based on getting one kill. Every player has their own goal... (Surprise! Other people play in a way that differs from your way!) I may prefer implementing a strategy that is based on getting x amount of points. Every player has their own strategy and that needs to be kept in mind before trying to argue how the way you play should set the standard for everyone else. Survivors have their own way of implementing a strategy tailored to reach a goal as well. I main as killer but I don't pretend that my perception of a strategy that differs from my own changes its effectiveness for the person using said strategy. But then again I don't nit pick everyone else's experience all because the outcome of a game may or may not have ended in MY favor...