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hatch campers .... do sth about it
so 2 surv was left and we made mistake because we left 3 gens on same side of map and we couldnbt fnisih last gen because the huntress( who had Iridescent Head and 2 extra hatches so its already not fun ) wasnt even chasing , even if she sees me she wouldnt even come to me even if i was standing in 1 place ,,, even if she downed me ( which happened only because i was 5 meteres away from generator only that would encourage her to throw at me some hatchet xF ) She wouldnt even pick me up , but i had unbreakeable so yeah , i tried for about 1 hour make last gen but it seemed immposiible , and not only because of this annoying huntress but because after i was downed i realize i tried for about 1 hour do this last gen while seeing (when i got downed ) in the other far corner of the map survivor camping for a hatch , so i knew already im done no matter what i do xD , still i tried for 10 more mins but it didnt make sense so i got myself downed and just crawl to this Nea camping a hatch and got us both killed .
im not even mad about 3 gen exposed huntress ( i mean i do 3gen strat on legion rarely myself but if i see surv i dont ignore em ,,, )) but anyway please do something about it , im pretty sure both survivors ( because they want escape ) and killers ( because they want 4k ) dont enjoy hatch campers ..
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A good idea for this is to rat out your 'friend' to end the game. If you spot them straight camping hatch then try get killer's attention but not run and use the "come here" emote and lead them to the other survivor. Be careful when doing this though, they may be holding a key and attempting to act as a beacon for you to come over, and in some cases may be trying to be a savior, waiting for you to move away from the 3 gen to catch your attention.
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Not much that can be done, players are not obligated to be team-oriented players. Is it obnoxious to see someone already peace out and decide to camp hatch when it makes no sense? Yeah. Is it against any rules? Nope.
If you want to reduce the probability of getting such teammates play SWF, if you want to eliminate it entirely play 4man SWF with people you know won't do it. Not much else can (or should) be done.
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That's literally bannable. It's called working with the killer and sandbagging. Before you say "no it's not" - yes, it is. The one ban ANGRYPUG has on record was for literally screwing over the other survivors by helping the killer.
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Eh. It's a game. You are always going to find someone waiting on the hatch for you to die. Technically that survivor doesn't have to come get you. I mean I crawl to randoms who don't deserve the hatch. Because majority of them are ######### anyway.
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@Paladin_Goo It's not helping the killer, it's helping yourself at that point :P
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No. It's making a decision to try and save yourself. The killer chooses to kill you or swap and follow. Theyre not obligated to follow your instructions.
If you messaged the killer at start, "hey find me I'll show you all survivors with bond", that would be working with killer.
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So following a teammate around, spamming noise notifications, and pointing at them the whole time wouldn't be bannable because you didn't directly message the killer?
You would just frame it as "trying to save themselves" if a teammate did that to you?
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Yeah!
If you see someone camping the hatch and there's only two of you left with some generators remaining, you have to commit Seppuku to let them win because they deserve that hatch more than you!
LOL
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OMG, you sound like the idiots I get paired up with...get your cowardly butt on that gen, if she finds you dodge the hatchets while taking the chase AWAY from the gens, she only has 3 shots. Sure she might get you, but PTFO you and the other guy both.
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No, I'd say it's a gambit. And it worked if the killer decides not to kill you.
If you start the game making noise and throwing pallets, its throwing the game. But the situation is 2 people alive. The killer could have secured a kill, but opted to take a chance and follow the person. Just as the 3rd took a chance of being hooked immediately.
It paid off.
And yes. It sucks, but if that's what happens AND the killer goes for it. Bully for them. Killer now knows where number 4 is making a hatch close even easier.
So when a killer opts to kill nobody, hit nobody, and farm, thus "preventing intentional gameplay," and removing survivors chance at max points , should they be banned as well?
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They just got to make it that the hatch only spawns when one person is left alive
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problem is some killers dont care about you , if your close they willl but they wont chase you if you run away
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I didn't say anything about throwing pallets, and AetherBytes' comment was about leading the killer to the other survivor in a hatch situation.
You're giving me a whole lot of "ifs" in defense of what looks like griefing and working with the killer, so I want to make it clear. So let me get this straight:
So the difference between bannable and nonbannable behavior is when you do it? Is it how many people are alive? Is it determined by the killer's actions? Whether or not it worked? Or is it as you had initially stated: whether you message the killer? Which is it? How much would it take to make the act of following you around and leading the killer, in order to intentionally sabotage, you perfectly normal and defensible gameplay?
And would you defend another survivor's actions of following you around and attempting to intentionally lead the killer to you as not bannable and "saving themselves"?
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You said making noise. As in indicators. Try again.
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Vaults and lockers make indicators, genius. Pallets are expendable resources. Lockers and vaults are not. They are also infinitely vaultable outside of a chase.
Man, do you the play the same game?
You want to add making sound to the list too? Honestly, it's surprising that you sound so sure of yourself, yet still avoid yes or no questions.
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Man it's as if you didnt read or comprehend what I wrote?
I said. If people are throwing pallets AND MAKING NOISE immediately w 4 people its throwing the game.
If it's down to 2 and a hatch, it's you or them. If they point you out and the killer kills you man that sucks but guess what? The killer has the option to kill the person MAKING ALL THE NOTIFICATIONS.
Learn comprehension and context. Try again.
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Your quote says it all. "When Is it bannable". The devs have said griefing a single player over multiple games.
I'm done with you being a brick wall of ignorance and side arguments. Gl getting caught by a NON bannable troll.
I also answered your last question already. Learn to read.
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Oooh, so if I throw pallets down, grief, and make noise when there's three people, it's okay! And as long as it's not "immediately", it's okay according to you!
And it's totally acceptable to sandbag, drop pallets, grief, and follow you around if it's just me and you! Second survivor dead? Time to fire up my Bond and grease up my space bar!
Boy, thanks for clearing that up! Glad to have you here. I hope to find you in one of my games as well, since you've made the distinction for me. Because it's completely not bannable and you'd certainly defend my actions.
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You're really stretching the variables for your own sake now. Stop quoting/tagging me. You're making yourself look stupider ever post that uses misinformation.
Bye. I'm off to actually play the game. Maybe get down to 2 and see who gets the other caught first. Good thing I WONT GET BANNED FOR IT.
<3
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Quoting misinformation does make me look stupid, doesn't it?
"Good thing I WONT GET BANNED FOR IT."
Yikes.
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How would you address a survivor camping the hatch (you know where they are) and waiting for you to die?
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@Raccoon If you're asking me personally, I don't see the point wasting my time by griefing or being petty. I usually just do a gen, maybe sneak around, and play the game normally and get some points before the game ends.
I treat it the same way as if I get left to second stage or die on the hook. Sure, I can do the same back to you, but it's not like I can force you to be a good teammate.
If you mean if I were the devs, then I think there should be an emblem penalty instated somehow. A hatch camping survivor is not doing the objectives or being bold.
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Maaaaan you should have camped the hatch with him and started watching Netflix lol.
Seriously though I would have just let the killer sacrifice me after it became obvious with what was going on. No point wasting a whole hour trying to do a gen haha!
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Tagging you implies that I was asking you :P
What is bannable in this exact scenario?
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No, actually, it's bannable. It's not even up for debate.
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I'd be happy to, but i'm just a Killer.
Best thing you could do is show the camper to me so i can kill you both.
P.S. I read the entire thing, i just preferred to respond to the title.
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To clear things up (since I started this entire argument apparently)
This is what I refer to as a "lost cause" game. 2 survivors left, 3 gens within easy chase distance, and no key present in the trial. When your teammate is camping hatch. You either DC, let killer kill you, or hope to appeal to any honour code the killer may have and punish the hatch camper for stalling out the game and AFKing. In a case like this, I don't believe it's bannable, as it's the last option you have left.
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The report system, the one that specifically mentions "helping/working with the killer" as a bannable offense, says otherwise.
Whether or not they are camping hatch, yes that makes them scummy, but you're still helping the killer get a kill.
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@MandyTalk What do you think would be the correct thing to do in this scenario? Would this be bannable?
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I spoke with Ryuti and gave the example of throwing down a pallet to block a teammate so they get hit instead of you.
He mentioned to me that a single case of this happening likely wouldn't get you banned.
From what I understand it's when you actively work with the Killer constantly to grief other people. Saving your own skin, I don't believe, is bannable, especially if the Killer is trying to kill you.
There is a fine line between being opportunistic, and actually "working with" someone.
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@not_Queen sorry for the tag but can you clear this up so people dont get the wrong idea and end up banned for thinking its ok
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