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Why are Survivors so reluctant to use their BPS during the Blood Hunt?

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  • thrawn3054
    thrawn3054 Member Posts: 5,897
    edited June 2019

    I won't use streamers because it seems to always lead to people being jerks. At this point I don't usually bother getting them in blood webs.

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243

    @FireHazard

    I don't use BPS as a survivor because you hardly get anything from it, especially when you have to fight for generator points and safe unhook points amongst your team. Furthermore, sometimes you can't go for unhooks or generators because of your team's decisions, which means you other BP categories are going to be really underwhelming.


    Honestly, you're just better off playing killer during the double bloodpoint event in my opinion. Not only do they gain more BP consistently, but BBQ stacks is more consistent than WGLF stacks because you're almost always guaranteed to hook a few survivors. On the other hand, WGLF is only for altruistic survivors, and if you're forced to do generators because your team is always going for hook saves, it's a dead perk (not like it does anything anyways). Even if you can get a safe unhook, it's unlikely you'll get 4 safe unhooks and/or 4 protection hits within a single game.


    I know this sounds like a rant in a way, but survivors really do get the short end of the stick when it comes to earning BP. I'd like to see all categories get BP buffs in my opinion, but hey, that's just me. 🤷‍♂️

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314

    Yeah, its kind of a well known fact that killers gain more BPs than survivors. It makes sense though as it is a 1v4, but I can understand what you mean though. Its never worth doing a double BP event as a survivor, ESPECIALLY solo.

  • TragicSolitude
    TragicSolitude Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 7,420

    I only burn BPS as survivor if I'm playing with friends, that way there's a smaller chance I'll be immediately tunneled out of the game, and even if I am tunneled out at least hopefully people I know and like will get some benefit from the offering. I normally play solo survivor, though, so I rarely burn BPS.

    If I burn BPS as killer, it's with the knowledge that the survivors will probably get more benefit from it than I will, so I have to be feeling super generous at the time. I'm more likely to trash BPS than actually use them when I prestige.

  • WheatThinO
    WheatThinO Member Posts: 62

    Oh fam, no, that is the extreme fun. You offer up your bps, maybe they have one or two as well, or not, whatever... and then you just kill them all. And if you come across them, use the red moris. Its the best.

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited June 2019

    Most people leave when they die.

    Would be solved with end game chat staying around from start to finish instead of only showing up when the player is done.

    And don't think this is one sided. I haven't had anyone thank me for BPS as survivor either.

  • AStupidMonkeyy
    AStupidMonkeyy Member Posts: 718

    I usually just 2-hook everyone then max my stats and let everyone leave. It's a win-win. I get 25k-28k depending on how much I could get before end game. Triple that because of BBQ and I'm a very happy killer.

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243

    @FireHazard

    Thank you for your unbiased opinion, and for being so understanding.


    I usually get around 32k BP on a double BP event as a survivor, but as a killer, usually it's above 100k BP.

  • Paladin_Goo
    Paladin_Goo Member Posts: 287

    I'll give my answer - survivors don't use them because killer mains (the toxic ones, not all of them) tend to go full camp/tunnel mode during double BP and bring mori's, black wards etc. With the sole purpose of cucking people's BPS.

  • indieeden7
    indieeden7 Member Posts: 3,422

    Not relevant but I had another survivor call me bad at the game because I put on a BPS and got less points than him despite the fact that I ran the killer for 3 gens (half of which wasn't in chase, just the killer following my scratch marks). However, unlike that survivor, I didn't get hooked.

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506
    edited June 2019

    If you didnt expect it, you wouldn't make a post about how they leave without thanking you because it wouldnt have crossed your mind.

    Yet, here we are.

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314

    Yeah, I think its just common knowledge too don't you think?

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314

    You have a point, but the intention was never to demand a thank you, even though it was kinda of worded that way...

  • malloymk
    malloymk Member Posts: 1,555

    As a killer I message the survivors "farm bps or normal match". If they want a normal match I don't use my streamers.

    As a survivor I'd only use bps if I got a message asking to farm. I haven't gotten any farm matches this weekend as a survivor. I just use throwaways (luck/mist) and map offerings. That way I can DC in the loading screen if I see a black ward or mori offering.

  • johnmwarner
    johnmwarner Member Posts: 3,793

    BPS don’t give extra extra during the event , it doesn’t turn two ones into four, it’s three times the points

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314

    What're you even talking about. Its 100% bonus flat rate.

    Its x2 from the event, plus 100% from BBQ, PLUS any 100%, 200%, 300%, etc that comes with BPS or puddings + streamers.

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    I'm not using streamers just to get camped or tunneled or mori'd. Whether it's an event or not this happens so often that BP offerings tend to be a waste.

    I will only use streamers if the killer asks to farm or if it's a killer I know and/or am friends with.

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314

    Understandable.

    We can never know what Killer is a try hard or not, so its really unknown yeah.

  • premiumRICE
    premiumRICE Member Posts: 798

    Since I dont play swf I usually ask people in the lobby if they want to 4x bps. Theres no particular benefit from having 4x instead of 1x just that putting your bps you have a certain chance to expect others to pop it too. So its like forcing others to pop it by popping yours, its like 3x1 even though a full bps is rare usually i s 1x2 or 1x1.

    That aside, if a lot of bps are popped I appreciate if the killer wants to farm. Not like hes obligated to but if it happens I appreciate it. The bp hunt is long and reckless, a bit of help never hurts. If the games proceeds like usual im fine with it too.

  • rch614
    rch614 Member Posts: 551

    I hate playing my streamers because of how sweaty both sides end up being. Not to mention streamers don't stop people from dc'ing. Then boom, you're stuck with a 3- man with the killer that probably has really good addons or just won't farm with you, in my luck.

    Bonus points if I'm the one that played it and ended up getting tunneled through DS then immediately swapped back to on death hook.

    And even if killer plays nice, survivors end up genrushing their nipples off and that means less points for us all.

    This event has not been kind to me.

  • Ihatelife
    Ihatelife Member Posts: 5,069

    I don't have any party streamers on my survivors. Most of the bloodpoints that I get is going to my killers.

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314

    I don't think any Blood Hunt aka X2 event is ever pleasant for some. Because most who participate are the sweatiest they've ever been.

    This will apply to both sides, the Killer could be the sweatiest tryhard cause a BPS is popped, for the Survivors could tryhard and gen rush, which will accumulate nothing for both sides except a win? Woohoo, I survived with 18k... Great?

  • rch614
    rch614 Member Posts: 551

    Exactly. And that's not even touching on the toxicity that also gets amplified in events like this. Both in game and the end game lobby, it's just baffling

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314

    I mean, if you want a better time to be toxic and ruin peoples day for either side you're trying to get mad... It'd be during a X2 like now.

  • twistedmonkey
    twistedmonkey Member Posts: 4,297

    Personally I go through all my chars and use what BP offerings which grant bloodpoints in all catagories and then go onto single objective ones once they have run out.

    I've been playing survivor more this event as killer queue is incredibly long for me which could be due to them earning more per game.

    I just play as normal unless I see the others are farming, I will always give myself up to be sacrificed to a killer who wants to farm as I feel it's just nice to give something back but most of them won't and take me to the exit.

    No matter how someone plays I always say GG at the end as it's just a game why people get so upset over dying in a game I dont understand.

    I run WGLF for the extra points so if I escape so be it if not I got more points by getting stacks anyway.

    Anything the other side uses which is part of the game to win is fair game imo, I don't let players who tbag or try to bait get to me as again it's just a game.

  • ggallinftw
    ggallinftw Member Posts: 351

    Why would i waste streamers when i know i'm goin against infinite t3 myers or hillbilly w/ ebony mori? And as killer, do i really wanna give bonus points to survivors to help replace the instaheals that they're bringing in? I don't know why anybody wwould use streamers during an event tbh.

  • HavelmomDaS1
    HavelmomDaS1 Member Posts: 1,948

    Ah #########, why are people demanding a thank you? U dropped that streamer for yourself in the first place, don't act as if you dropped it for someone else.

  • JetTheWaffleCat
    JetTheWaffleCat Member Posts: 284

    Most the time when I burn bps the killer goes full sweat mode. The only time I'd burn my bps is if I was in a squad and if I knew I'd get use out of the offering.

  • HectorBrando
    HectorBrando Member Posts: 3,167

    Because burning BPS and then getting face camped is very very frustrating, I know not all killers face camp and some even go soft against survivors using BPS but the rotten apple ruins the whole basket.

  • remoirel
    remoirel Member Posts: 231

    personally i stopped using point offerings ages ago. Whats the point in using a BPS just to get in game and die with 4k points or something cos the killer camped you?

  • TWiXT
    TWiXT Member Posts: 2,063

    @FireHazard

    No way I'm blowing a BPS until the DC Epidemic is under control. There's nothing worse than using a BPS or Escape Cake/Survivor Pudding in a game where one or more people DC and Drop my potential point gain just because they are an over-entitled brat that has no concept of good sportsmanship and DC as soon as Ruin goes down/Gen completes or Get found and downed by the killer first/Don't like the killer they're facing. This petty BS is why I'm hanging onto all my big XP bonus offerings until the dedicated servers are live and the disciplinary committee has been established. When that happens i'll be glad to use them on the 2x BP event that follows, but not until then.

  • RoKrueger
    RoKrueger Member Posts: 1,371

    I love it so much when the first survivor I get to eliminate was the one that broght the BPS :-D Think of their frustation

  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,600
    edited June 2019

    I use them as fast as I get them. Even if I'm destroyed, it's still more points than I would of got without them.

    I never expect people to go easy. You have zero control over what others do, why get worked up over it.

  • Jesp
    Jesp Member Posts: 192
    edited June 2019

    I'd use them if I had them, I rarely get them in my webs.

    Feels like I constantly go an entire prestige and get a single BPS at most, so I'd imagine there's other unlucky gamers out there.

  • Rie
    Rie Member Posts: 86

    During the whole event I played exactly 2 bps as survivor.

    Game 1: got tunneled to death, bloodpoints: 8.000

    Game 2: nurse omega blink, 1 dc, devour hope, bloodpoints: 5.000

    Somehow I feel like I'm dooming myself with them.

    Hmmm weird...

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    i know what you mean.

    its just that last game i used a double BP offering as survivor, i got 4k points from that round, since that one ash would continuously farm me off the hook against bubba.

    i had tons of fun that game, and bubba had no mercy (sadface)..

  • CotJocky
    CotJocky Member Posts: 221

    I can only speak for my own experience. Playing BPS for 97/100 matches as a survivor only puts a large target on your back. All but a few killers go full try hard mode to ruin your day it seems, even when it ruins their own points. When a stack of BPS are played, the killer rarely wants to farm (which ultimately is fine), but he also doesn't want to maximize his own points either. Hooking a survivor, downing another trying to go for the save and then trying to close the match by downing or hanging the others when they attempt to unhook or get those two up. I've seen full on basement camps and everything else. I even see a ton of Mori's played. Even when the survivors names show you that they want to farm, most killers only concern is "winning" even if it means the survivors only get hooked once and the killer comes out with 13K points at the end. I've had so many killers say "I won, that's all I care!" "and lots of other nasty comments that aren't very nice. To me, the double blood point event is like "Christmas" (sorry if you don't like the comparison). It should be a time of happiness and working with one another to maximize points. It seems there are a high majority of Killers that are straight up grinches. Burning BPS during a double blood point event is like lighting a stack of $100 bills on fire. I'd just rather save them and play them with a noob friend not during an event. At least the noob might get a boost in needed BP's to get him started on his way to leveling up his characters. I'd honestly rather prestige my character and delete them than give them to those type killers.


    I play killer too FYI. I'm just not hard core focused on my Rank or "winning". I play games to have "fun". A novel concept I know.

  • CotJocky
    CotJocky Member Posts: 221

    That event was toxic AF too. Had lots of killers camping the nectar. Just like you had killers camping the special gens in the older events. If there is a way to be toxic, people always find away to be the biggest P.O.S. they can be.

  • Bithard
    Bithard Member Posts: 406
    edited June 2019

    @FireHazard I'm on ps4, normally play with the same group and the killer messages me if they want to. Farming games are boring but if there are 5 streamers it's well worth it 😂 I've not wasted any on other killers yet.

  • RoKrueger
    RoKrueger Member Posts: 1,371
    edited June 2019

    During the Lunar new year event I placed traps in front of the lanterns as Trapper. I could not believe how many survivors I catched that way. Those lanterns served as bug zappers hahaha

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