Barbecue & Chili kills the fun of DbD by being unfair and overpowered.

Mc_Harty said:

If every killer is using the perk, then it should be easier for you to adapt to it.

Give it time. The only time BBQ is truly annoying is when you're facing the Nurse or Hillbilly.

BBQ can't see survivors that are ether within 40 meters of the hooked individual or if you position yourself right
behind a generator. It's not much but it helps.

I have to agree with this guy. I've faced plenty of people with BBQ & Chilli and even use it myself. 9 times out of 10, they're usually using it for the extra bloodpoints and as long as you're stealthy, the killer will usually miss you even if they decide to come to your position. Survivor only lights up for a few seconds, anything can happen after that.

BBQ is a difficult thing to talk about from a balance standpoint. The safest thing to say here is that the perk for the most part is fine. The terror radius normally is a dead give away that the killer is nearby and should be enough time to run. Due to the speed at which killers move I generally think that the perk is fine from a balance standpoint. There are a few soft counters like hiding behind an unfinished generator or walking in one direction for four seconds and then turning around.

However i have posted on this forum that a perk needs to come out that hides your aura from the killer. Basically a BBQ counter.

Welp if you had to choose between a killer leaving the hook and letting you to rescue, and a killer just standing there, waiting for people to come by, what would you choose ?

BBQ has several counters, including juking if you're found. It's not like being found means you're gonna go down under 10s, supposedly, even.

A killer getting people one by one should not be able to kill everyone before the gens are completed, unlike you're very low ranks and not repairing, which is the main issue.

Before I go into the particulars of BBQ&Chilli and why it's not only a fine Perk, but a desired one, I'd like to teach you something.

These days, people like to throw words around like "overpowered", you hear it applied almost all the time and especially in discussions concerning Killers in Dead by Daylight.

_"Nurse can go through stuff using her power - she's OVERPOWERED"
"Freddy can see you while you're asleep anywhere on the map - that's OVERPOWERED." _

That word gets misused, so often by new players with little understanding of the game, and by those who should know better.

In gaming, an Overpowered thing is something that gives one side an overwhelming advantage without the possibility of counterplay from the other side.
An actually overpowered ability for a Killer would be something like a power with a map-wide radius that allows the Killer to instantly freeze all Survivors in place, bringing them down to the Dying state all at once without the ability to use Perks like Unbreakable or No Mither.

BBQ&Chilli, on the other hand, has multiple counterplays to it.

First, it merely reveals the auras of Survivors who are beyond a certain range from the hooked Survivor and it has blindspots (if you're crouching behind a generator your aura gets "swallowed" by the generator's aura, hiding you from the Killer's gaze).

Second, the range where the auras are hidden is actually a pretty large one (it's bigger than the whole Badham Preschool's main structure and surrounding area, for example). In other words, as long as you get just a little closer to the general area where the Killer is hooking the Survivor, your aura won't be revealed.

And thirdly, the ability to see your aura from across the map for a few seconds does not equal "instant capture". Only one Killer has the ability to instantly go from one side of the map to the other (which is the Hag, and only if she uses a certain rare addon that allows her to teleport to any trap at will - and only when she has a trap to teleport to), two others (Hillbilly and Nurse) have the potential to arrive in your area quickly, however you still have a chance to hide or juke them.

Notice that the Killer has to move away from the hook in order to chase another Survivor - emphasis on the "chase" part, since simply knowing where you are does not mean much in this game, unless you're a newbie who wandered into an unsafe area.

In fact, BBQ&Chilli does more good for Survivors than it hurts them - it gives them a chance to bait the Killer away from the hook, waste his time by making them think they have a chance of finding the Survivor when the Survivor can juke the Killer simply by moving in one direction for a few seconds and then once the few seconds when BBQ&Chilli shows their auras elapse, they sneak in the other direction and hide or simply slink away while the Killer goes to search an empty area.

BBQ&Chilli is also beneficial to Survivors since it incentivizes Killers to move away from a hook, giving Survivors the chance to earn Benevolent points while the Killer chases a new Survivor and the hooked person doesn't simply get tunnelled/camped to death.

New Survivors like yourself, Sephirothpheonix, simply need to learn the game and get used to the Perk. If you want to stay hidden, pay attention to what's happening around you - if the Killer downs someone, start running towards them, then sneak when you get closer. When the Killer hooks them, you'll remain hidden.
That is all there is to it.

Survivor perks are "OP". It's a 4v1 game so you'd think that Killer perks would be 4 times stronger than the Survivor perks but they're really not. Imagine if Killers had Sprint Burst. The perks used to be a huge issue but the Emblem system fixed a lot of things. Survivors need to do more than fix gens to pip now and I love that.

I'd suggest you watch some streamers. not_Queen is a consistent streamer. She's a Survivor main who plays a lot of mind games with Killers who run BBQ & Chili. Check her out on https://twitch.tv/not_queen

@Mc_Harty said:
If every killer is using the perk, then it should be easier for you to adapt to it.

Give it time. The only time BBQ is truly annoying is when you're facing the Nurse or Hillbilly.

BBQ can't see survivors that are ether within 40 meters of the hooked individual or if you position yourself right
behind a generator. It's not much but it helps.

You can also run one way for 4 seconds then walk back the other way... a bit of an issue with nurse and billy (as you said), but it can still be played around.

OP - play more and get better

As a frequent user of Barbecue & Chilli I have to disagree. I would only consider it OP on Nurse or Billy, because they can travel across the map pretty quickly. If you think the killer has Barbecue & Chilli there are many ways to counter them. Hide behind the aura of a gen, get within 40 meters then get out, hide in a locker then leave to make the killer think you're in a locker, run in one direction and then start running in the other. The best way to counter Barbecue & Chilli is to trick the killer. Be unpredictable.

There was a thread exactly like this on Reddit fifteen hours ago, are you also the author of that thread?

I'll just repost what I said over there:

BBQ and Chili can be countered. Just move in one direction until the aura reading is over and then move in the opposite or hide your aura behind an incomplete generator or get close to the Killer. It doesn’t need a nerf at all. You just need to get better at stealth. Also, stealth isn’t being encouraged that much by the devs. Doctor, Freddy, BBQ, the Evader emblem all make stealthing around the map harder to pull off successfully (If you don’t get near the Killer for your Evader points, then you will either safety pip or depip, maybe single pip if you get some heals and unhooks in and you don’t get downed). It just seems like you need to get better. We don't need another pointless nerf to Killers (Freddy was the first one).

@SnakeSound222 said:
There was a thread exactly like this on Reddit fifteen hours ago, are you also the author of that thread?

I'll just repost what I said over there:

BBQ and Chili can be countered. Just move in one direction until the aura reading is over and then move in the opposite or hide your aura behind an incomplete generator or get close to the Killer. It doesn’t need a nerf at all. You just need to get better at stealth. Also, stealth isn’t being encouraged that much by the devs. Doctor, Freddy, BBQ, the Evader emblem all make stealthing around the map harder to pull off successfully (If you don’t get near the Killer for your Evader points, then you will either safety pip or depip, maybe single pip if you get some heals and unhooks in and you don’t get downed). It just seems like you need to get better. We don't need another pointless nerf to Killers (Freddy was the first one).

^^^ This is 100% accurate.

BBQ should not show the swfs in a death state. you have deer stalker for finding them, so BBQ makes deer stalker useless

🤣I love how all the people who are defending it are obviously killer mains! As a killer I love the perk even though I hardly use it because I feel like it's kinda cheating. And as survivor I hate it because many times I've gotten into lockers and tried to avoid it to no avail. I honestly think distortion should have no limit as a hard counter until people stop using it so much since distortion is so useless as of now.