Key + Mori debuffs

@CheersTC that would completely defeat the purpose of moris in the first place.

that addition could just be in a killers basekit aswell, there woudl be no point in using ebony moris anymore, since you would gain no benefit from them - besides a cool kill animation instead of the lame sacrifice animation.

honestly, what is with you guys and mori nerfs? ebony moris are ultra rare offerings - they get used once and then they are gone, no matter weather the killer used them or not. and lets be honest, how often do you see ebony moris games? i honestly cant remember the last time played against one, thats how often i personally run into them.

those offerings are ultra rare for a reason, they greatly impact the game, just like keys do. yet, they are way more restricted to use than keys. the current version of the ebony mori is fine imo. killers can kill you fast, but honestly, why would they? if they were trying to tryhard, ebony moris arent the best way to go, you get emblem penalities and a lot less BP from them. the only reason why i personally use them would be for fun / if i want to teach that obvious 4 man SWF team with flashlights / toolboxes a lesson.

@AetherBytes Killer can't grab survivor when they go throw a hatch

I dislike this idea, but offtopic for a split second, did down vote get sent to the shadow realm?

Drop Ebony Moris to Very Rare, and I'd be on board.

I don't believe Rarity is a good balancing measure because rarity is not something that matters once a game starts.

Plus, you say "Oh, I rarely run into them, so why worry?", and another thread on the first page is complaining about running into too many ebony moris. Which one gets to have their claim matter more?

@TAG i would agree on that for everything besides ultra rares. those items / add ons / offerings are supposed to be gamechanging, which is what earned them their title as ultra rare.

just take a look at them:

Ultra rare add ons allow the killer to use their power in completely different ways than usual. Trapper is able to just have undisarmable traps, since anyone touching them would get injured while they just reset themselves automatically shortly after. Wraith is able to gain exact knowedge of Survivors whereabouts while being able to easily ambush them with his silenced bell, etc.

survivors have ultra rare items that drastically change how the game is played. the key allows for an early escape, while also giving them various information on the trial / killer and the rainbowmap allows them to gain a lot of very good map knowledge - they even trump the killer's map knowledge with it.

ebony moris also cut down the time it takes to complete the trial, for the killer that is.

you wont see anything really gamechanging below the ultra rare rarity, so anything that has said quality, needs to also be meeting those standarts or drop in quality.

now for the last part, i have seen it aswell and its some funny coincidence xD. however, we do not know any of the context. he was complaining about ebony moris and getting camped a lot recently, so he might have played with his friends in a 4 man SWF. they might aswell have played toxic, having the killers switch to moris or camping them. or maybe they were just extremely unlucky - we cant tell for sure.

now, here is my context: i usually play solo Survivor as claudette, usually somehwere between purple and red ranks. i dont bring items into the trial, instead i try to collect new items during the trial ang get them out of it. i am not running any prestige clothes, instead i have dark clothing and try to be as stealthy as possible. like i said, i do not see many red moris in my surivor games - in the last couple of monthy i think i saw one pig running an ebony mori with ultra rare add ons aswell... thats it.

all i was saying was, that i personally rarely run into those.

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So make the Ebony an Ivory, but just Ultra Rare

And by 25 moris I mean the ebony ones. I got more green and yellow too