Good example of Balance on High Ranked from Tru3ta1ent
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@Envees said:
When he was chasing that Claudette around the tree i was thinking ######### are you chasing? After two loops i got a glimpse of her.This video is why i preferred to camp people to death. I have zero interest in what was on offer in this game. I refuse to play like that. I catch your ass after being looped and then watch you die. No, you dont get more lives than a friggen cat.This is my fun. Rank meant nothing to me at the end. I no longer play. No longer play due to swf bullshit and the obvious surv bias.
Seen a lot of trues' videos on the "clean" YT and never seen him get that pissed. But this clip just goes to show what killers have to deal with. People that can loop to perfection like that Claudette who was running around a tree when i though he was running in circles for nothing, only to spot her really late.
DbD is a surv favored mess. I experienced it starting at rank 17 and it only got worse the closer i got to rank 10 - one or two pips away i was - at which point i said:"[BAD WORD] this #########!". Now i just come here with less and less frequency.
I suspect the number of players in this game go up and down because the game goes on sale and then people figure out its bullshit. Only to have another sale that replaces those that leave. This game is pathetically small compared to lots of other games that have sold 5 million copies. Where are those 5 million people who got this? At most you have 30k playing? When i stopped it was in the 26k range and it took just about one year to go from the 6-8k when i started to the 26k when i left.
Devs stealthily put back blinding from the side back in the game it seems. How the heck were they able to flash him? He was in front of tires and in optimal position.
I have other games to play. I do not need to feel the feelings i had when i played killer. I played to have fun. Not to go through the ######### that most killers do on a daily basis. [BAD WORD] that. I want to make it to 80 and not die of a heart attack. I am nearly 50 now.
I did not see too many mistakes. A few bad swings is all i saw but that ######### happens. Mistake was not camping those shits to death when he had the chance or not even accepting the lobby in the first place.
Survs have more lives than cats.
You did the mistake to rank up. In DBD it actually hurts you when you rank up, there are no rewards for it btw.
I know its a strange feeling because we are used to other competitive games like MOBAS or shooters where you strive to reach higher in rank such that mates get better, games are more fun and challenging and you get these juicy rewards after the season.In DBD there is none, you need to get rid of that attitude to rank up. Actually derank if you stop having fun. inthe current state of DBD you can either farm BP to be prepared once (if at all) the game becomes competitive or you have fun. Both should be done against "newbies" if you want to keep your sanity
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@Master said:
@only1biggs said:
@Master said:
@only1biggs said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@Master This man above me gets it. Anyone with common sense can see the problems with this game.Also long time no see @Beaburd, I see you again.
You three are all so cute :'D
So you cant show me such a game? Thought so
You can't go look yourself?
I cant find such a game, you claimed it, now prove it lol
I claimed that flashlights can be played around. Which they can.
Now, tell me exactly what you want to see? I'll search and find something for you.
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@Master ...You can have this for right now.
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@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@Beaburd This isn't a discussion. It's spam.He didn't slug, he didn't fake pick ups, he didn't chase correctly and got outplayed easily on pallets, swung when he didn't need to, got body blocked and didn't punish them, chased round the "infinite too long", got angry at someone crouching repeatedly etc etc etc.. Of course he didn't deserve anything from the game. What games do you play where if you make mistakes you win?
For him to only blame the game and not himself and for others to do the same, is..to be honest..stupid. Stupidity should always be mocked and ridiculed, which is why I laughed and said it was entertaining.
I've already told you these types of things will only work on bad Survivors or if those particular Survivors have never went up against those 'counterplays' they fall for it like babies.
And you expect all of that ######### to work, is even funnier. Doing that would've wasted his time into then the guy crawling to a pallet, picking him up to be lighted/palleted either way because again, fake pickups do not work on people that know they're a thing. Slugging's only good for Nurse, again, the only Killer that stands a chance and has some actual skillful play involved.
You can't punish bodyblocks either when they all run Self Care. You're going to have to pick one to go after which means the other 3 are safe.
"What games do you play where if you make mistakes you win?"
Survivor in Dead by Daylight. You can make so many mistakes and play like trash, as the Quentin did, and still win easily.
I initially thought you'd be someone reasonable but you seem like a puppet with the bullshit you're typing acting like it's his fault he lost and he shouldn't be blaming the game.
It just shows how so much he has to say, but so little knowledge about the game. All these things he said do not work, and typical survivor mind like "HEH, TO COUNTER BODYBLOCKING YOU NEED TO HIT THE SURVIVORS, HEH, DONE" does not helps him in discussion.
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@RSB said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@Beaburd This isn't a discussion. It's spam.He didn't slug, he didn't fake pick ups, he didn't chase correctly and got outplayed easily on pallets, swung when he didn't need to, got body blocked and didn't punish them, chased round the "infinite too long", got angry at someone crouching repeatedly etc etc etc.. Of course he didn't deserve anything from the game. What games do you play where if you make mistakes you win?
For him to only blame the game and not himself and for others to do the same, is..to be honest..stupid. Stupidity should always be mocked and ridiculed, which is why I laughed and said it was entertaining.
I've already told you these types of things will only work on bad Survivors or if those particular Survivors have never went up against those 'counterplays' they fall for it like babies.
And you expect all of that ######### to work, is even funnier. Doing that would've wasted his time into then the guy crawling to a pallet, picking him up to be lighted/palleted either way because again, fake pickups do not work on people that know they're a thing. Slugging's only good for Nurse, again, the only Killer that stands a chance and has some actual skillful play involved.
You can't punish bodyblocks either when they all run Self Care. You're going to have to pick one to go after which means the other 3 are safe.
"What games do you play where if you make mistakes you win?"
Survivor in Dead by Daylight. You can make so many mistakes and play like trash, as the Quentin did, and still win easily.
I initially thought you'd be someone reasonable but you seem like a puppet with the bullshit you're typing acting like it's his fault he lost and he shouldn't be blaming the game.
It just shows how so much he has to say, but so little knowledge about the game. All these things he said do not work, and typical survivor mind like "HEH, TO COUNTER BODYBLOCKING YOU NEED TO HIT THE SURVIVORS, HEH, DONE" does not helps him in discussion.
It's funny you say that, when most of the better players of this game share the same views as me.
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@only1biggs said:
@RSB said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@Beaburd This isn't a discussion. It's spam.He didn't slug, he didn't fake pick ups, he didn't chase correctly and got outplayed easily on pallets, swung when he didn't need to, got body blocked and didn't punish them, chased round the "infinite too long", got angry at someone crouching repeatedly etc etc etc.. Of course he didn't deserve anything from the game. What games do you play where if you make mistakes you win?
For him to only blame the game and not himself and for others to do the same, is..to be honest..stupid. Stupidity should always be mocked and ridiculed, which is why I laughed and said it was entertaining.
I've already told you these types of things will only work on bad Survivors or if those particular Survivors have never went up against those 'counterplays' they fall for it like babies.
And you expect all of that ######### to work, is even funnier. Doing that would've wasted his time into then the guy crawling to a pallet, picking him up to be lighted/palleted either way because again, fake pickups do not work on people that know they're a thing. Slugging's only good for Nurse, again, the only Killer that stands a chance and has some actual skillful play involved.
You can't punish bodyblocks either when they all run Self Care. You're going to have to pick one to go after which means the other 3 are safe.
"What games do you play where if you make mistakes you win?"
Survivor in Dead by Daylight. You can make so many mistakes and play like trash, as the Quentin did, and still win easily.
I initially thought you'd be someone reasonable but you seem like a puppet with the bullshit you're typing acting like it's his fault he lost and he shouldn't be blaming the game.
It just shows how so much he has to say, but so little knowledge about the game. All these things he said do not work, and typical survivor mind like "HEH, TO COUNTER BODYBLOCKING YOU NEED TO HIT THE SURVIVORS, HEH, DONE" does not helps him in discussion.
It's funny you say that, when most of the better players of this game share the same views as me.
And who are those "players", may I ask?
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@RSB said:
@only1biggs said:
@RSB said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@Beaburd This isn't a discussion. It's spam.He didn't slug, he didn't fake pick ups, he didn't chase correctly and got outplayed easily on pallets, swung when he didn't need to, got body blocked and didn't punish them, chased round the "infinite too long", got angry at someone crouching repeatedly etc etc etc.. Of course he didn't deserve anything from the game. What games do you play where if you make mistakes you win?
For him to only blame the game and not himself and for others to do the same, is..to be honest..stupid. Stupidity should always be mocked and ridiculed, which is why I laughed and said it was entertaining.
I've already told you these types of things will only work on bad Survivors or if those particular Survivors have never went up against those 'counterplays' they fall for it like babies.
And you expect all of that ######### to work, is even funnier. Doing that would've wasted his time into then the guy crawling to a pallet, picking him up to be lighted/palleted either way because again, fake pickups do not work on people that know they're a thing. Slugging's only good for Nurse, again, the only Killer that stands a chance and has some actual skillful play involved.
You can't punish bodyblocks either when they all run Self Care. You're going to have to pick one to go after which means the other 3 are safe.
"What games do you play where if you make mistakes you win?"
Survivor in Dead by Daylight. You can make so many mistakes and play like trash, as the Quentin did, and still win easily.
I initially thought you'd be someone reasonable but you seem like a puppet with the bullshit you're typing acting like it's his fault he lost and he shouldn't be blaming the game.
It just shows how so much he has to say, but so little knowledge about the game. All these things he said do not work, and typical survivor mind like "HEH, TO COUNTER BODYBLOCKING YOU NEED TO HIT THE SURVIVORS, HEH, DONE" does not helps him in discussion.
It's funny you say that, when most of the better players of this game share the same views as me.
And who are those "players", may I ask?
OhTofu, ZubatLEL, Scott Jund, Jen Denise, Altruistic, Blizzard, Diatech... there's a few off the top of my head.
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@ZombieGenesis said:
@only1biggs said:
It's funny you say that, when most of the better players of this game share the same views as me.You're basing that statement on what? It's certainly not the experience I've had on this board, the steam board, or reddit.
Aren't you usually pretty cool? Why are you getting mixed up in this?
I'm basing my statement off players I watch on Twitch that are good at the game and don't automatically resort to blaming everything else before themselves.
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@only1biggs said:
https://clips.twitch.tv/CulturedDreamyPigeonPeanutButterJellyTime
He just mentioned that you are meant to be facing the walls (Which Tru did) and got flash-light through the side, or slugs them (which Beaburd already explained why), and fake a pickupHe also didn't like the Whispers nerf and pretty much only plays the strongest killer now (Aka Nurse), while he plays Wraith 2 days ago when he was lower rank after he hits into the high ranked zone he only plays Nurse now, and there were games on Wraith where he didn't even got a kill due to people abusing the loops and such
https://clips.twitch.tv/DistinctBadSlothFUNgineer0 -
@ZombieGenesis said:
@only1biggs said:
It's funny you say that, when most of the better players of this game share the same views as me.You're basing that statement on what? It's certainly not the experience I've had on this board, the steam board, or reddit.
Probably because people who complain about things are the ones who "scream" loudest, and it creates the illusion that this is how most people feel. I see a trend here, it's the same handful of people who post threads like this, every time, and they all agree with each other and refuse to listen to suggestions from others. It's always "no, it doesn't work", no matter what people say. Take flashlights for instance: if they couldn't be countered, why do killers not having issues with them exist? And before anyone starts claiming these killers play at low ranks etc: no, there are plenty of killers who play in the red ranks who never complain about flashlights and who play around them, time after time after time. I've seen it on several streams, with my own eyes. But nope, "it doesn't work". Well then, I don't know what to tell you guys.
Bottom line, what I see is that lots of people refuse to be open minded and learn from others. They post threads but don't want anyone to disagree, and they've made up their mind beforehand. Well, then there's no point in making a discussion thread about it then, is it? Because there's apparently nothing to discuss.
There are lots of things in the game that are unbalanced, a whole bunch of it... but there's also a lot of things that can be countered for if you're a good killer. I've seen it. But, I guess I'm just wrong or blind, right? I guess it's easier to just say nothing can be done about these things.
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@ZombieGenesis said:
LOL You didn't say a few, you said most.OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. Did you just stop reading?
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@Someissues said:
@only1biggs said:
https://clips.twitch.tv/CulturedDreamyPigeonPeanutButterJellyTime
He just mentioned that you are meant to be facing the walls (Which Tru did) and got flash-light through the side, or slugs them (which Beaburd already explained why), and fake a pickupHe also didn't like the Whispers nerf and pretty much only plays the strongest killer now (Aka Nurse), while he plays Wraith 2 days ago when he was lower rank after he hits into the high ranked zone he only plays Nurse now, and there were games on Wraith where he didn't even got a kill due to people abusing the loops and such
https://clips.twitch.tv/DistinctBadSlothFUNgineerYou lose games sometimes, so what? He also went to rank 1 with perkless Wraith. He also used to be one of the better Billy's in the game.
And you'll listen to one person who supports your nonsense over another who counters with the right plays and gives you answers? Great job. You'll go far.
You're a genius.
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The only meaning for me to reach rank 1 right now is to get that darn achievement.
Although the second I get it, my friends will leave me because they can't stand me beeing better than them in any game...
That's why I don't ''want'' to reach rank 1
Edit: TrU3 can be very salty sometimes, but honestly.
If he can't stand to loose sometimes he should take a pause from the game.
From what I know, games were created to entertain people.
But what do you think?
Is he entertained?
Is he having fun?TrU3Ta1ent is a massive pile of garbage.
Don't take anything personal.
He's just another human...TrU3 fans reading this:
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Get roasted TrU3 fans...
Bring it on!Post edited by Skorpanio on4 -
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@ZombieGenesis Kind of agree with this. Not a fan of Tru3, but I did feel bad for him in this vid. I said it earlier but if he had made way less mistakes, I do not think the end result would be different.
I don't think the problem is flashlights though, imo. I don't mind flashlights anymore as a killer main. I think the problems were more about Wraith being garbage, and him being against a very good team who also were super BM (which obviously worked to tilt him a lot). With a M1 killer there's not a lot you can do vs people like that, especially with multiple DS.
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Everything after the "bottom line" bit was directed at the people who start threads like this and have already made up their mind about things. Sorry about the confusion.ZombieGenesis said:@skvirl said:
There are lots of things in the game that are unbalanced, a whole bunch of it... but there's also a lot of things that can be countered for if you're a good killer. I've seen it. But, I guess I'm just wrong or blind, right? I guess it's easier to just say nothing can be done about these things.You're asking me to defend an argument I didn't make so I guess I don't really have anything to say here aside from, if you can watch that video and see anything other than killer bullying we're at an impasse that cannot be crossed. People have conceded that he could have played better but it would not have mattered. At all.
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@skvirl said:
There are lots of things in the game that are unbalanced, a whole bunch of it... but there's also a lot of things that can be countered for if you're a good killer. I've seen it. But, I guess I'm just wrong or blind, right? I guess it's easier to just say nothing can be done about these things.If a survivor is dropping a pellet and attempt to flashlight if you just follow the sound, especially if he is injured without Iron-willed I am sure you can get them for any good killers, the thing with looking at Walls it doesn't always work, since it heavily depends on where the survivor was downed. Slug sure, but Wraith isn't a good killer for slug, to begin with, Nurse is the best slugging killer in game, normally I can get everyone down on the floor when there are 2-4 gens left
@only1biggs said:
Marth also did a depip squad with no perks, out of 100 games, 2 double pip, 12 pip, 3 safely pip, 73 Depip, 10 double depip and 31 lobby dodgers, the main issue isn't really about flashlight here nor gen time, it's about SWF
he also did an emblem squad which again for over 100 games
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fEcByNXR9qg_NJc9JacOomJxeH-hyUbyU9yJCSn0pFQ/edit#gid=076 Killers de-pip, 5 pip, 4 safety, double depip 15, 25 dodgers
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@only1biggs said:
@Master ...You can have this for right now.I see a nurse streamer being in lobby?
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Some bad survivors and he still got bullied.
Wraith really needs a full rework so his power is viable in the chase meta. Buffing his reappearance time etc. doesn't help. People seem to want a brain dead killer who gets a free hit then m1 chases.
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@only1biggs said:
What games do you play where if you make mistakes you win?DBD, playing survivor.
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@only1biggs
You really need to become a Killer Streamer. You know, considering you’re a damn god at Killer from not only this thread, but others I’ve seen you post in. Go on, show us how it’s done.
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00:20 - he starts the chase running the wrong direction, making it possible for claudette to get a fast vault on the window, or to throw down the pallet and run into the building and get the fast vault on the window on the other side.. if had he chosen to run her around the truck the other way around, then she would've ran away from the building, towards pallets - or - continue looping the building, but not getting a fast vault on the window on the other side of the building.
00:45 - he cancels the chase that he dedicated plenty of time to already, to waste time double vaulting a window, running through the building, only to block the worst possible window for the survivors, as it is right next to the big openiing of the building. not worth at all in my eyes.
by doing that, he ran back to where he spawned (he knew there is nobody doing a generator over there, so him placing himself there is entirely pointless. by following the claudette, she might've had lead him into another survivor which he could've stopped from progressing a generator. early pressure is key as killer and he threw it away.
2.1 01:02 - why does he walk to the left through the door ? he knows the window that is opened up is the far right, so he shouldve ignored the door he walked through, and instead cut her off.
01:13 - you can see the generator infront of him got finished, if he had simply dedicated to the chase when he cancelled it, he would've been able to stop that generator.and injure another player (easily hearable that someone works on it from where he would run along). Also, as it was rather early into the game and ruin was still up, i can imagine that there might have been 2 survivors on that generator. he could've gotten all 4 survivors off the generators (the 4th was doing the totem) if he had dedicated to the chase when he refused to.
01:17 - swung too early, happens.. yet it was a preventable mistake. could've either downed her, or get rid of one pallet. any would've been better than swinging too early, getting nothing and then cancelling the chase, once again.
01:23 - i really don't understand what he is doing there.. he runs to the generator before backing up, gets stuck in tires, walks towards the building with nothing but the building in his frame, doesn't check his surrounding, walking with pure tunnel vision back into the building that he hears a gen being worked on.
01:44 - why is he respecting the pallet ? any good player will make sure to check this first. seeing as he didn't have a chase with that meg yet, he should've predicted that.
02:22 - should've honestly heard that claudette running towards her, missed the hit aswell. can't really blame him as he was focussed on chat or something, still, missed the chance of a free hit
03:15 - why is he not turning around and cut her off ? instead he choses to get looped around a stack of tires for like 5 rounds. there is no way claudette could've reacted fast enough to a change of direction from true.
03:30 - now he has a real reason to cancel the chase, but now he sticks to it ? he plays with MYC, at the bottom you can see the feng min he hit earlier, fully healed up. it is so obvious she will go for the save, he just had to pretend following the claudette, wait for the save and run back, yet he continues the same chase that he wasted so much time earlier on already.
03:55 - right here he made a good choice leaving the chase and going for the feng min, i assume he thought she was her MYC, somehow she wasn't which surprises me, as the 4th teammate was on the other side of the map doing gens when he hooked the meg. still, i stand to my point that he should've baited the save and ran back.
04:12 - why is he once again, not dedicating to a chase and instead kicks back a generator ?
04:20 - how the hell did he lost track of her ? he saw her running to the left when kicking back the generator, and she was also in the frame when he ran to the pallet
04:35 - why is he cloaking and uncloaking 5 seconds later ? he even mentions the flashlight user, but does so anyways.
04:50 - you can already tell by where feng min lands that he is not going to be able to pick her up from where he attempts it. he should've also considered him lucky that he placed him self vulnerably by looking slightly to the right exposing himself to the flashlight user he talked 10 seconds ago..
05:00 - i'm sorry but his justification of why he is doing bad this round, well, i hope as of now you can tell that he is pushing the blame away from him onto something else. also, why does he keep running towards hooks & survivors with a pure tunnel vision ? while carrying feng he walks a straight line and doesn't look around towards where quentin or meg is going at all,
05:08 he spots the meg (who doesn't even move) in such a small frame, so don't tell me he oversees so much because of his "bad eyesight" as he always claims it.
05:52 - why is he complaining about the one DS user ? her DS was of no impact yet in this game at all, but he refuses to admit to any of the 16 mistakes i've listed above, to instead blame a single Perk that wasn't even used yet.
06:00 - "and a flashlight" - just like the DS, the flashlight wasn't ever used successfully against him, actually, the exact opposite. claudette in the beginning relied on the flashlight stun, and that gave tru3 a free hit on her. honestly at this point, he should've been happy there was a flashlight in the game, as it only did good to him up until now. so again, why is he blaming factors that haven't had any negative impact towards him at all ?
06:28 - once again, he exposes himself. the moment he picks quentin up, only half the tires are in his frame. why not take half a second more of your time and adjust your sight ?
07:05 - my god, come on man. look down in a 45° angle so that you can see what is infront of you, and still see where the survivor is. you are blindly trying to pick up a survivor without looking where he is and then complain about him getting up with adrenaline.
.- 07:38 that flashlight blind was BS and i support everyone who says so aswell. (gotta stop picking on tru3 for once) just like the one at 09:00.
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now, i might've been picky on some parts. yes we are all humans and mistakes are of no shame. but i can't stand it to hear from him things like "i couldn't have played any better" "i only lost because of xy" "you cannot do anything against xy". it is making me sick.
this guy gets 2K+ viewers. and each and every stream he refuses to admit to many mistakes he does (at this point, i think he isn't even aware of any of them), he won't tell his viewers what he did wrong, what he could've done instead. 2K+ viewers will get the impression, that killers are helpless more often than they actually are.
he is part of the reason why so many low rank killers shout for nerfs and fill dead by daylight with complaints and bad vibes.if i had to tell tru3 something in person, it would be: if you fail at anything, ask yourself what the cause was, what you could've done instead, make up all the possible scenarios in your head of what your opportunities were, and how they could've ended. humans get better by learning from mistakes so stop blaming other factors first.
sidenote: quentin was indeed ######### and didn't deserve to win, BS flashlight angles made it all possible.
all the others deserved to escape that round, not because they were overly good, but because tru3 refused to chase them down. he let them heal up each time he hit them.
i don't think it is highly possible to win this round, but from all of the things i've listed, i am sure he had the possibility to have a much better outcome at the very least..Post edited by TrapWHre on6 -
@Master said:
@only1biggs said:
@Master ...You can have this for right now.I see a nurse streamer being in lobby?
...Talking about people like you
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@only1biggs said:
@ZombieGenesis said:
@only1biggs said:
It's funny you say that, when most of the better players of this game share the same views as me.You're basing that statement on what? It's certainly not the experience I've had on this board, the steam board, or reddit.
Aren't you usually pretty cool? Why are you getting mixed up in this?
I'm basing my statement off players I watch on Twitch that are good at the game and don't automatically resort to blaming everything else before themselves.
IE Streamers with no personality that are average at the game but still have to play it 24/7 because that's how they got most of their viewers.
Of course they blame themselves and not balance, they're a bunch of sheep.
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@SovererignKing said:
@only1biggs
You really need to become a Killer Streamer. You know, considering you’re a damn god at Killer from not only this thread, but others I’ve seen you post in. Go on, show us how it’s done.I have NEVER stated I'm good, I just know what a good killer can do and I know what ######### killers look like when I see one. I also find it laughable that people keep posting these terrible videos of awful killers playing badly and then saying, "look at this, look at the state of ____", like that holds any merit whatsoever. It's like a lower league footballer blaming the game for being worse than a footballer in the top league. (yes yes, the game is survivor sided and some of the maps are broken, but we're talking about playing around flashlights here).
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@Tsulan said:
If the devs would play their own game consistently on high ranks vs SWF, the game would be balanced.Bro! For real! Spend just a couple hours at Rank 1-5 and it's just ridiculous. Do they even know that? WE know that. But do they? All anybody wants is a stop to the madness!
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@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@ZombieGenesis said:
@only1biggs said:
It's funny you say that, when most of the better players of this game share the same views as me.You're basing that statement on what? It's certainly not the experience I've had on this board, the steam board, or reddit.
Aren't you usually pretty cool? Why are you getting mixed up in this?
I'm basing my statement off players I watch on Twitch that are good at the game and don't automatically resort to blaming everything else before themselves.
IE Streamers with no personality that are average at the game but still have to play it 24/7 because that's how they got most of their viewers.
Of course they won't blame themselves, they're a bunch of sheep.
Uhh, you realize you just spoke about yourself and the rest of your buddies?
Yikes.
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@only1biggs said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@ZombieGenesis said:
@only1biggs said:
It's funny you say that, when most of the better players of this game share the same views as me.You're basing that statement on what? It's certainly not the experience I've had on this board, the steam board, or reddit.
Aren't you usually pretty cool? Why are you getting mixed up in this?
I'm basing my statement off players I watch on Twitch that are good at the game and don't automatically resort to blaming everything else before themselves.
IE Streamers with no personality that are average at the game but still have to play it 24/7 because that's how they got most of their viewers.
Of course they won't blame themselves, they're a bunch of sheep.
Uhh, you realize you just spoke about yourself and the rest of your buddies?
Yikes.
I don't stream and I don't think anybody else in this discussion does.
I'm talking about streamers like Tofu, Scott, Zubat, etc. No personality but they have to play the game 24/7.
Yikes, reading is hard.
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@Someissues said:
@skvirl said:
There are lots of things in the game that are unbalanced, a whole bunch of it... but there's also a lot of things that can be countered for if you're a good killer. I've seen it. But, I guess I'm just wrong or blind, right? I guess it's easier to just say nothing can be done about these things.If a survivor is dropping a pellet and attempt to flashlight if you just follow the sound, especially if he is injured without Iron-willed I am sure you can get them for any good killers, the thing with looking at Walls it doesn't always work, since it heavily depends on where the survivor was downed. Slug sure, but Wraith isn't a good killer for slug, to begin with, Nurse is the best slugging killer in game, normally I can get everyone down on the floor when there are 2-4 gens left
@only1biggs said:
Marth also did a depip squad with no perks, out of 100 games, 2 double pip, 12 pip, 3 safely pip, 73 Depip, 10 double depip and 31 lobby dodgers, the main issue isn't really about flashlight here nor gen time, it's about SWF
he also did an emblem squad which again for over 100 games
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fEcByNXR9qg_NJc9JacOomJxeH-hyUbyU9yJCSn0pFQ/edit#gid=076 Killers de-pip, 5 pip, 4 safety, double depip 15, 25 dodgers
You keep saying "pellet". Why?
De-pip aids again? They don't play the game normally. NOBODY PLAYS LIKE THEM. EVER. Their games prove nothing. (no rage caps, just emphasis)
I really think you're trolling at this point. You offer nothing but memes.
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@ZombieGenesis said:
@only1biggs Okay dude, no need for the rage caps. It's all subjective anyway. I honestly felt for Tru3 in that video and, to be frank, I normally can't stand the guy. Did he play perfect? No, or as he would say he didn't play "optimally" but even so...how many times do you have to outplay 1 survivor? It's one of the reasons I just do not take this game seriously at all any more. You can't if you play killer. You'll give yourself an aneurysm.No rage caps, just emphasis. You were scoffing at me for not listing ALL the rational players..I gave a handful off the top of my head. Your scoffing was unwarranted and just silly.
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@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@ZombieGenesis said:
@only1biggs said:
It's funny you say that, when most of the better players of this game share the same views as me.You're basing that statement on what? It's certainly not the experience I've had on this board, the steam board, or reddit.
Aren't you usually pretty cool? Why are you getting mixed up in this?
I'm basing my statement off players I watch on Twitch that are good at the game and don't automatically resort to blaming everything else before themselves.
IE Streamers with no personality that are average at the game but still have to play it 24/7 because that's how they got most of their viewers.
Of course they won't blame themselves, they're a bunch of sheep.
Uhh, you realize you just spoke about yourself and the rest of your buddies?
Yikes.
I don't stream and I don't think anybody else in this discussion does.
I'm talking about streamers like Tofu, Scott, Zubat, etc. No personality but they have to play the game 24/7.
Yikes, reading is hard.
The last part of your quote, dummy. "Of course they won't blame themselves, they're a bunch of sheep."
smh
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@only1biggs said:
I really think you're trolling at this point. You offer nothing but memes.Uhh, you realize you just spoke about yourself and the rest of your buddies?
Yikes.
Also it's not hard to play like they do. Anybody can. They were Killer mains that claimed themselves they weren't that good at Survivor.
They proved how bad the balance is. Marth is one of the actual good Killers and has some common sense to see balance issues instead of pretend every loss was on him (barring Nurse).
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@only1biggs said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@ZombieGenesis said:
@only1biggs said:
It's funny you say that, when most of the better players of this game share the same views as me.You're basing that statement on what? It's certainly not the experience I've had on this board, the steam board, or reddit.
Aren't you usually pretty cool? Why are you getting mixed up in this?
I'm basing my statement off players I watch on Twitch that are good at the game and don't automatically resort to blaming everything else before themselves.
IE Streamers with no personality that are average at the game but still have to play it 24/7 because that's how they got most of their viewers.
Of course they won't blame themselves, they're a bunch of sheep.
Uhh, you realize you just spoke about yourself and the rest of your buddies?
Yikes.
I don't stream and I don't think anybody else in this discussion does.
I'm talking about streamers like Tofu, Scott, Zubat, etc. No personality but they have to play the game 24/7.
Yikes, reading is hard.
The last part of your quote, dummy. "Of course they won't blame themselves, they're a bunch of sheep."
smh
I realize I worded that wrong, will fix it.
But regardless, that's what those average, no personality streamers that you suck off hard do. They act as if losses were on them when it was clearly terrible balance from this game.
"But people lose sometimes, so what?"
Really would be interested to watch you play this game.
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@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
I really think you're trolling at this point. You offer nothing but memes.Uhh, you realize you just spoke about yourself and the rest of your buddies?
Yikes.
Also it's not hard to play like they do. Anybody can. They were Killer mains that claimed themselves they weren't that good at Survivor.
They proved how bad the balance is. Marth is one of the actual good Killers and has some common sense to see balance issues instead of pretend every loss was on him (barring Nurse).
Look, everyone knows the game is unbalanced and nobody has said otherwise..we're talking about this video and the amount of ######### plays made and flashlight counters etc... You KEEP saying the same ######### and expecting different things.
I thought Marth was good too, then I saw him pick up a survivor facing away from a wall that he was stood next to and then was outwardly shocked at being flashlighted and then complained about it, like it wasn't his mistake that made him lose the kill. He KNEW flashlights were in play.
Then he ######### up the tournament and lost and couldn't take it that HE made a mistake. HE ######### up and lost and a bunch of other idiots here actually tried defending him. People just like you.
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Nurse is too OP so I am happy for crutch perks like DS otherwise it would be survivors RQing. Can you imagine a god nurse with chilli and make your choice? give me a break! Nerf the nurse first then remove DS!!
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@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@ZombieGenesis said:
@only1biggs said:
It's funny you say that, when most of the better players of this game share the same views as me.You're basing that statement on what? It's certainly not the experience I've had on this board, the steam board, or reddit.
Aren't you usually pretty cool? Why are you getting mixed up in this?
I'm basing my statement off players I watch on Twitch that are good at the game and don't automatically resort to blaming everything else before themselves.
IE Streamers with no personality that are average at the game but still have to play it 24/7 because that's how they got most of their viewers.
Of course they won't blame themselves, they're a bunch of sheep.
Uhh, you realize you just spoke about yourself and the rest of your buddies?
Yikes.
I don't stream and I don't think anybody else in this discussion does.
I'm talking about streamers like Tofu, Scott, Zubat, etc. No personality but they have to play the game 24/7.
Yikes, reading is hard.
The last part of your quote, dummy. "Of course they won't blame themselves, they're a bunch of sheep."
smh
I realize I worded that wrong, will fix it.
But regardless, that's what those average, no personality streamers that you suck off hard do. They act as if losses were on them when it was clearly terrible balance from this game.
"But people lose sometimes, so what?"
Really would be interested to watch you play this game.
You and this "sucking off" nonsense again? Did I say you suck off Marth? Nope. Because I'm not a weirdo.
How about you do the same and not project this weird #########, huh?
And they are more than happy to bash the game when all they see are a field of pallets or a gross setup with 3 jungle gyms and saftey pallets...but when they make mistakes, they say stuff like "oh well, I played badly, I don't deserve the win". They do the best with what's in front of them. They don't moan and shout at the game like a moronic child.
And I'd LOVE to see you play, but that can't happen can it? As you stopped playing this game, right?
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@megdonalds said:
The worst thing at this is that those survivor snowflakes are the ones that always complain about everything what goes against their easy mode, for example the upcoming exhaustion nerf which btw was already neccessary 2 years ago. Regarding the video, im very sure there was an earlier patch where the devs removed flashlight blinding from the side, but it seems it came back some months ago. Typical devs.it use to be within the killers fov but survivors cried and moaned on the forums because the killers fov is so terrible it made them need to be in front of him, then it got moved to about 80-90 degrees, now i think it is easily over 120 as i can get blinded while facing a wall but only just slightly being turned...
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@only1biggs said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
@ZombieGenesis said:
@only1biggs said:
It's funny you say that, when most of the better players of this game share the same views as me.You're basing that statement on what? It's certainly not the experience I've had on this board, the steam board, or reddit.
Aren't you usually pretty cool? Why are you getting mixed up in this?
I'm basing my statement off players I watch on Twitch that are good at the game and don't automatically resort to blaming everything else before themselves.
IE Streamers with no personality that are average at the game but still have to play it 24/7 because that's how they got most of their viewers.
Of course they won't blame themselves, they're a bunch of sheep.
Uhh, you realize you just spoke about yourself and the rest of your buddies?
Yikes.
I don't stream and I don't think anybody else in this discussion does.
I'm talking about streamers like Tofu, Scott, Zubat, etc. No personality but they have to play the game 24/7.
Yikes, reading is hard.
The last part of your quote, dummy. "Of course they won't blame themselves, they're a bunch of sheep."
smh
I realize I worded that wrong, will fix it.
But regardless, that's what those average, no personality streamers that you suck off hard do. They act as if losses were on them when it was clearly terrible balance from this game.
"But people lose sometimes, so what?"
Really would be interested to watch you play this game.
You and this "sucking off" nonsense again? Did I say you suck off Marth? Nope. Because I'm not a weirdo.
How about you do the same and not project this weird #########, huh?
And they are more than happy to bash the game when all they see are a field of pallets or a gross setup with 3 jungle gyms and saftey pallets...but when they make mistakes, they say stuff like "oh well, I played badly, I don't deserve the win". They do the best with what's in front of them. They don't moan and shout at the game like a moronic child.
And I'd LOVE to see you play, but that can't happen can it? As you stopped playing this game, right?
Due to them being sheep, of course. They like to act as if they make mistakes and lose because of them, when it's entirely up to the Survivors to be making the mistakes, not the Killer. Average streamers.
I wish I could record but I can't right now because of hardware limitations. But as I'm not the one making troll posts like yours and acting as if they're real solutions, I asked you first. Will you come up with an excuse to not record or will you back down?
I can't even see jack ######### on your Steam profile either, it's completely private. Private profiles almost always are the trolls it seems.
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@only1biggs said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@only1biggs said:
I really think you're trolling at this point. You offer nothing but memes.Uhh, you realize you just spoke about yourself and the rest of your buddies?
Yikes.
Also it's not hard to play like they do. Anybody can. They were Killer mains that claimed themselves they weren't that good at Survivor.
They proved how bad the balance is. Marth is one of the actual good Killers and has some common sense to see balance issues instead of pretend every loss was on him (barring Nurse).
Look, everyone knows the game is unbalanced and nobody has said otherwise..we're talking about this video and the amount of ######### plays made and flashlight counters etc... You KEEP saying the same ######### and expecting different things.
I thought Marth was good too, then I saw him pick up a survivor facing away from a wall that he was stood next to and then was outwardly shocked at being flashlighted and then complained about it, like it wasn't his mistake that made him lose the kill. He KNEW flashlights were in play.
Then he ######### up the tournament and lost and couldn't take it that HE made a mistake. HE ######### up and lost and a bunch of other idiots here actually tried defending him. People just like you.
Cause of me trying to change some typos, comment approval. Why is this a thing? Steam's forums didn't require approval to fix some letters, christ.
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In regards to that tournament too, I think almost everyone was Nurse, so that was a battle of skill. The rest of DbD isn't.
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@ChraizE said:
Nurse is too OP so I am happy for crutch perks like DS otherwise it would be survivors RQing. Can you imagine a god nurse with chilli and make your choice? give me a break! Nerf the nurse first then remove DS!!How about hiding? Or maybe... if survivors spend as much time evading the nurse, as a nurse player spends to master her, there wouldn´t be a problem.
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@Tsulan said:
@ChraizE said:
Nurse is too OP so I am happy for crutch perks like DS otherwise it would be survivors RQing. Can you imagine a god nurse with chilli and make your choice? give me a break! Nerf the nurse first then remove DS!!How about hiding? Or maybe... if survivors spend as much time evading the nurse, as a nurse player spends to master her, there wouldn´t be a problem.
So it might just be a classical case of Git Gud!Spending some time to get better at this game? Pfft, what's that?
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@Doom_Punk said:
@Tsulan said:
@ChraizE said:
Nurse is too OP so I am happy for crutch perks like DS otherwise it would be survivors RQing. Can you imagine a god nurse with chilli and make your choice? give me a break! Nerf the nurse first then remove DS!!How about hiding? Or maybe... if survivors spend as much time evading the nurse, as a nurse player spends to master her, there wouldn´t be a problem.
So it might just be a classical case of Git Gud!Spending some time to get better at this game? Pfft, what's that?
Yeah, i know...
Survivors got used to being spoonfed by the devs, that it´s to much to ask for to actually learn how things work. I´ve encountered only a handful of survivors which can actually juke a killer. They have all my respect, and i am not even mad at them, when they manage to juke me for several gens and escape.1 -
Of course my profile is private..to stop weirdos like you creeping around on my page for no good reason
I'm not assuming anything boy. You are and have. You're so out of touch with the point you have resorted to whatever it is you are doing now. Sucking off streamers? Quake? What? Get a grip.
Not one of the streamers I mentioned thinks the game is balanced and I said as much. But..selective reading on your part, so whatever, it's clear for all to see now.
Also, back down from what? An excuse to not record? Oh, like you just did? Why would I take up streaming just to appease you? Moreover, even if I wanted to stream, I too lack the hardware to do so.
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@Tsulan said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@Tsulan said:
@ChraizE said:
Nurse is too OP so I am happy for crutch perks like DS otherwise it would be survivors RQing. Can you imagine a god nurse with chilli and make your choice? give me a break! Nerf the nurse first then remove DS!!How about hiding? Or maybe... if survivors spend as much time evading the nurse, as a nurse player spends to master her, there wouldn´t be a problem.
So it might just be a classical case of Git Gud!Spending some time to get better at this game? Pfft, what's that?
Yeah, i know...
Survivors got used to being spoonfed by the devs, that it´s to much to ask for to actually learn how things work. I´ve encountered only a handful of survivors which can actually juke a killer. They have all my respect, and i am not even mad at them, when they manage to juke me for several gens and escape.Same here, I have mad respect for those that can hide outside and inside of chases properly. It's hard to do and requires skill, which is why I enjoy it.
I like being outplayed as it gives me learning experience. I've played games or mods in games that people are extremely good at, they kick my ass, and I still have a ton of fun, even if I didn't kill anyone.
It gives me a goal I know I can look up to, which is improving and getting to a level like that.
Wish DbD was the same.
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@Tsulan said:
@ChraizE said:
Nurse is too OP so I am happy for crutch perks like DS otherwise it would be survivors RQing. Can you imagine a god nurse with chilli and make your choice? give me a break! Nerf the nurse first then remove DS!!How about hiding? Or maybe... if survivors spend as much time evading the nurse, as a nurse player spends to master her, there wouldn´t be a problem.
So it might just be a classical case of Git Gud!lmao clearly you're not high ranked survivor. a nurse god with make your choice is a ######### joke! anybody who ACTUALLY played against one at high rank would agree. without DS it's not even worth it and you say to hide? lol ok so unhook trigger make your choice while nurse blinks straight to you with speed blink addons and insta down you don't have time to hide when you're actively supporting your team and being you know...useful?? you talk like the type of survivor who crouches behind trees all game while your team die on the hook.
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@Doom_Punk said:
@Tsulan said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@Tsulan said:
@ChraizE said:
Nurse is too OP so I am happy for crutch perks like DS otherwise it would be survivors RQing. Can you imagine a god nurse with chilli and make your choice? give me a break! Nerf the nurse first then remove DS!!How about hiding? Or maybe... if survivors spend as much time evading the nurse, as a nurse player spends to master her, there wouldn´t be a problem.
So it might just be a classical case of Git Gud!Spending some time to get better at this game? Pfft, what's that?
Yeah, i know...
Survivors got used to being spoonfed by the devs, that it´s to much to ask for to actually learn how things work. I´ve encountered only a handful of survivors which can actually juke a killer. They have all my respect, and i am not even mad at them, when they manage to juke me for several gens and escape.Same here, I have mad respect for those that can hide outside and inside of chases properly. It's hard to do and requires skill, which is why I enjoy it.
I like being outplayed as it gives me learning experience. I've played games or mods in games that people are extremely good at, they kick my ass, and I still have a ton of fun, even if I didn't kill anyone.
It gives me a goal I know I can look up to, which is improving and getting to a level like that.
Wish DbD was the same.
Yes, those moments are golden! When you hear them, because they are injured, but you can´t find them. I really love those moments!
But most survivors just run to the next loop spot and then the NASCAR simulator begins. It´s as boring as being camped.1
