Pig add-ons rework Idea

These ideas are really great

agreed

Some decent ideas, but I don't want to get rid of the 'see survivor's auras while crouched' add-on (which is one of the few that actually alters a killer's gameplay style in a fun way), or the blindness effect from face mask (because it's one of the few blindness add-ons on any killer that actually lasts long enough that it can occasionally be of some use)

Also kinda don't want to get rid of reading auras with crouching. It's one of unique perks of dbd that change gameplay significantly.

But instant activation is actually feels like an ultra-rare add-on.

Ruleset no.2 gonna have a lot of complains. On large maps that add-on gonna kill a lot of people on its own. I would stick with just "can't remove unless active", to force them run when they're actually on clock, and not earlier. Yet it doesn't feel like a super-rare add-on, more like a purple one. Might replace one of them (like Jigsaw's Sketch. One more box as very rare? Come on) and make so ruleset no.2 activates RBTs instantly.

@Tag On Utility blades I would disagree. But might as well make it so mangled is not removed until healed. It's usually not a bad idea to give an add-on that cane save you a skill slot, especially when you just look for a filler.

60 secs limit suffers from the same problem Bubba's add-ons do, those ones that add slowed down gen repair for 120s after chainsaw down. Because by the moment surv is done drying on the hook, it's almost gone. And point of chases and ambushes is usually to succefully finish the chase with a down. So why bother with 60s sloppy?

Now, broken state can be used to counter insta heals. Sort of Franklin's demise in add-on form against medkit party.

Face mask could be really good with my idea of RSN2 (inability to remove a mask until it's active).

So I mostly like offered changes, because they look like a set of utility tools that you think about taking on a specific mission.

Now, about skillcheck perks. I often use them for giggles, and it gets especially funny if survs die from failing too often. Doesn't work on higher levels. But do all add-ons really must be viable on highest ranks?

@tag You really prize that juicy increased bleeding, don't you? For me 90% Sloppy Butcher is just a permanent mangled effect on hits. Sometimes I wouldn't mind using "5th perk" instead of whatever current yealow or brown perks are. Except for the belt and tape, of course. But they get burned fast if you use them all the time and don't really level up pig anymore.

Timer and gear add-ons are rare and finite, that's their downside :(

I guess, I can understand your point, why you want ALL perks work at any level.

I value the fact that Sloppy Butcher does not force me to use a specific niche attack in order to inflict Mangled, and I value the fact that I do not have to repeatedly spend blood points to use this weaker one-time-use version of Sloppy Butcher. The one scenario I can think of where I would rather have Utility Blades is so unbelievably contrived that I would never consider it to be a thing (successfully Ambush the Survivor, let them run off, let them heal, have them work on a gen or Jigsaw Box, grab them, hook them, let them get unhooked, and then have them try to heal again...all of this within 60 seconds).

I would just use one of her other add-ons that are better than Face Mask, then. The proposed Face Mask idea is not worth it, IMO.

The thing is that there is a difference between "not being useful enough at higher ranks" and "being borderline useless at higher ranks." We should really work toward eliminating the latter as best we can.

If you make it where it is Mangled until they are healed, then there is literally zero scenarios where I would use the proposed Utility Blades over Sloppy Butcher. I like the idea of inflicting penalties through the Ambush attack, but the reality is that Sloppy Butcher renders almost every Mangled add-on pointless. Broken I'm at least okayish with.

I am aware, but what I am saying is that I feel like it would not be a good add-on even if the Survivor is not permitted to work on the Boxes until their trap is active. The likely result of such a thing IMO would be that they will be working on the gen for a little while until a gen pops and then they just go to get the Trap off. If that takes a while to do because you were successfully defending the gens, you probably didn't need either perk to begin with. You are forcibly delaying the immediate benefit of them working on Jigsaw Boxes in exchange for a meager amount of action penalty that only affects one person.