STOP complaining about SWF
The amount of people in the forums these days complaining about SWF is absolutely ridiculous.
The community isn’t at all big enough to have any mechanic to opt out of receiving SWF players in your lobby when you play killer. This would make SWF completely redundant and no one would be able to play with their friends because EVERY killer will have SWF turned off.
Seeing a four man SWF lobby, with all their ‘crutch’ perks and items as a killer is honestly a rarity. Even if you do see one and you’re not comfortable enough, or feel a bit too anxious to go up against it, no matter the rank, just leave the lobby and re-lobby. Yes a game is meant to be FUN, and I completely understand if someone finds a SWF lobby intimidating or just un-fun.
However, firstly, if you never verse these SWF squads, you will never adapt and become a better killer, that’s just the honest truth. Everybody will always have bad games as a killer no matter how good they are, or how long they’ve been playing for.
Secondly, if you have a group of survivors that are playing dirty or that you know will play dirty, play dirty like them. Sometimes you have to lower yourself to their level and play like a scumbag to counter a scumbag. Change your play style. Slug them, camp them, tunnel them.
TL;DR: Stop complaining about SWF, adapt and learn.
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lmao. i will stop complaining about it when it goes the way of the dinosaur.4
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small price to pay.2
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Thanks for this thread.
This will really help and change everyone's mind.I mean, complaining about complaining people is truly the ascended way to do things.
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Sure, I'll just pretend like 3 minute games are fun and balanced and the way the game is meant to be.
I'll act as if getting trolled by 4 people that have 16+ perks is completely okay as someone playing on my own.
The game was much better without SWF. Like, seriously, who honestly plays this game with friends just to have fun, because there are much better games to be playing with friends. People group up to make the game easymode.
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Goobz said:
Grow some balls and challenge yourself.EpicFailTryHard said:small price to pay.
"balls" are not featured in videogames. go outside today. confront the day.0 -
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@Goobz said:
EpicFailTryHard said:lmao. i will stop complaining about it when it goes the way of the dinosaur.
Then have fun having 30min plus queue times. SWF isn’t going anywhere.
I rather have that instead of SWF actually
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Removing swf wont kill the game, the number of players will be the same but the survivors are gonna get replaced with killer mains0
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If you get wrecked below rank 12 guess what your a rank 12. SWF is going nowhere. It will hurt the player base, less people playing less money coming in the door, longer que times will lead to even more people leaving, meaning even less money coming through the door, no money, no chapters=Dead Game.
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@Goobz said:
Basically the title ^The amount of people in the forums these days complaining about SWF is absolutely ridiculous.
The community isn’t at all big enough to have any mechanic to opt out of receiving SWF players in your lobby when you play killer. This would make SWF completely redundant and no one would be able to play with their friends because EVERY killer will have SWF turned off.
Seeing a four man SWF lobby, with all their ‘crutch’ perks and items as a killer is honestly a rarity. Even if you do see one and you’re not comfortable enough, or feel a bit too anxious to go up against it, no matter the rank, just leave the lobby and re-lobby. Yes a game is meant to be FUN, and I completely understand if someone finds a SWF lobby intimidating or just un-fun.
However, firstly, if you never verse these SWF squads, you will never adapt and become a better killer, that’s just the honest truth. Everybody will always have bad games as a killer no matter how good they are, or how long they’ve been playing for.
Secondly, if you have a group of survivors that are playing dirty or that you know will play dirty, play dirty like them. Sometimes you have to lower yourself to their level and play like a scumbag to counter a scumbag. Change your play style. Slug them, camp them, tunnel them.
TL;DR: Stop complaining about SWF, adapt and learn.
@Goobz said:
EpicFailTryHard said:small price to pay.
Grow some balls and challenge yourself.
I could say the same about playing SWF.
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swf=stinkng pair of buttocks.0
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@Goobz said:
Doom_Punk said:Sure, I'll just pretend like 3 minute games are fun and balanced and the way the game is meant to be.
I'll act as if getting trolled by 4 people that have 16+ perks is completely okay as someone playing on my own.
The game was much better without SWF. Like, seriously, who honestly plays this game with friends just to have fun, because there are much better games to be playing with friends. People group up to make the game easymode.
Plenty of people play this game together in SWF to have fun. That’s more common than the four stack tryhards you get in SWF lobbies. As I said, everybody has bad games. I’ve had plenty of quick games without there being SWF in my lobby too. SWF has nothing to do with gens going quickly. If you want to fix or implement anything, either give survivors something else to do besides gens, or fix the spawning so that survivors don’t always spawn in groups of 2-4. SWF is not the problem.
I know of nobody that actually uses it to have fun, they want easy games and it gives it to them. As I said, there are games that are actually fun to play with friends with, and then there's DbD.
This game was not designed with SWF in mind, it was an afterthought due to Survivor complaints.
SWF offers up too many advantages to an already power-heavy Survivor role. 3 minute games could be turned into two, downing someone could not matter cause high chances are they're all running DS and flashes.
If I want to play with friends, I would have picked a different game. They should just rename SWF to "Easy Difficulty" and it'd make no difference.
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@Runiver said:
Thanks for this thread.
This will really help and change everyone's mind.I mean, complaining about complaining people is truly the ascended way to do things.
Don't worry @EpicFailTryHard will have 10 response posts for this.
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@Goobz said:
Runiver said:@Goobz said:
What do you want me to do? Say nothing? Well I’m glad you’re content on sitting on your ass and saying nothing but it’s ridiculous how many people are crying over spilt milk basically.
Live with it and don't join the cryingfornothing party, obviously.
Well ######### if everyone just ‘lived with it’ we’d have a pretty non progressive, ######### up society.
We already have a non-progressive, ######### up society.
People are dying on the street while others are letting their ferrari to die on an airport parking because they got the brand new one.Don't be like complaining about a random "group" of players on a gaming forum will change anything about that.
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@Goobz said:
Saying something is better than saying nothing at all champ. It would be much more ######### if we never said anything.Very debatable. Especially since you can have very legit griefs against SWF, and since people do not like being given lessons from randomers on the internet.
It will just spew more toxicity overall, especially since it can be considered as a bait thread that will just make this forum even more of a rotting place.It doesn't matter that much tho, it's just "one out of many other" ######### threads.
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@Goobz said:
Doom_Punk said:@Goobz said:
Doom_Punk said:
Sure, I'll just pretend like 3 minute games are fun and balanced and the way the game is meant to be. I'll act as if getting trolled by 4 people that have 16+ perks is completely okay as someone playing on my own. The game was much better without SWF. Like, seriously, who honestly plays this game with friends just to have fun, because there are much better games to be playing with friends. People group up to make the game easymode.
Plenty of people play this game together in SWF to have fun. That’s more common than the four stack tryhards you get in SWF lobbies. As I said, everybody has bad games. I’ve had plenty of quick games without there being SWF in my lobby too. SWF has nothing to do with gens going quickly. If you want to fix or implement anything, either give survivors something else to do besides gens, or fix the spawning so that survivors don’t always spawn in groups of 2-4. SWF is not the problem.
I know of nobody that actually uses it to have fun, they want easy games and it gives it to them. As I said, there are games that are actually fun to play with friends with, and then there's DbD.
This game was not designed with SWF in mind, it was an afterthought due to Survivor complaints.
SWF offers up too many advantages to an already power-heavy Survivor role. 3 minute games could be turned into two, downing someone could not matter cause high chances are they're all running DS and flashes.
If I want to play with friends, I would have picked a different game. They should just rename SWF to "Easy Difficulty" and it'd make no difference.
You must not know many people then. I play with my girlfriend to muck around and have fun with. You’re basically saying that DBD is meant to be a competitive game and that no fun is allowed. How you’re wrong..
That's not what I said but ok.
This game isn't competitive but I never see SWF teams actually playing for fun. Maybe with one other person but 3-4 is always tryhard.
You may see a once-in-a-lifetime group of 3-4 that clearly aren't trying and just messing around instead. But they're so rare it doesn't matter.
SWF is a mod to make the game easier. I never asked for SWF cause I know it would be used to make the game easier. And now here we are.
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@EpicFailTryHard said:
lmao. i will stop complaining about it when it goes the way of the dinosaur.Wow, don't you have any friends?
I personally play with a SWF group all the time, noone follows the meta.
We may be a little altruistic but what do you expect out of your friends? Honestly!I'll add you to my 'must camp and mori' list now.
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SWF is just a beast that we will always contend with. nobody likes it except the SWF group. i agree theres no point complaining.... the thing about lobbies - good or bad, theres always another one waiting.... do your best and then move on to the next game....
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SWF is awesome and is not going away. Seeing killer mains constantly complain about it is like watching someone bashing their head against a brick wall.3
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Also, there are some way bigger problems dbd has to take care of.
To be honest, I wouldn't even consider this a problem.Buu Huu, I may meet a SWF group once a day. And who cares?
They might bully me and I might as well just reck thier butt5.These posts where people say:
REMOVE SWF IT CHEAT!
I usually look at them for 1-5 seconds and then I move on.
But there's been so many popping up recently, so it feels like I have no other choice but to tell them thay they should grow up and move on.I don't think SWF was made to make the game easier but to simply just be able to enjoy the game 'like any other game' with your friends.
If people can't make sense out of this they should go see a DOCTOR.And I think we all know what his response to this will be:
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fcc2014 said:
@Runiver said:
Thanks for this thread.
This will really help and change everyone's mind.I mean, complaining about complaining people is truly the ascended way to do things.
Don't worry @EpicFailTryHard will have 10 response posts for this.
amen. i continue to be fascinated by what i have to say and wait on the edge of my seat for whatever is said by me next.1 -
Runiver said:
@Goobz said:
Runiver said:@Goobz said:
What do you want me to do? Say nothing? Well I’m glad you’re content on sitting on your ass and saying nothing but it’s ridiculous how many people are crying over spilt milk basically.
Live with it and don't join the cryingfornothing party, obviously.
Well ######### if everyone just ‘lived with it’ we’d have a pretty non progressive, ######### up society.
We already have a non-progressive, ######### up society.
People are dying on the street while others are letting their ferrari to die on an airport parking because they got the brand new one.Don't be like complaining about a random "group" of players on a gaming forum will change anything about that.
how many of those "dying on the street" have you welcomed into your home?0 -
Skorpanio said:
@EpicFailTryHard said:
lmao. i will stop complaining about it when it goes the way of the dinosaur.Wow, don't you have any friends?
I personally play with a SWF group all the time, noone follows the meta.
We may be a little altruistic but what do you expect out of your friends? Honestly!I'll add you to my 'must camp and mori' list now.
Have fun.
please do. playing with a handicap is not necessary or even desirable for all.0 -
please do. playing with a handicap is not necessary or even desirable for all.
I find it really funny how you try and defend yourself against the whole goddamn community.
Go play something else and stop complaining.
You're the last thing we all need!4 -
A message to EpicFailTryHard:
https://youtu.be/AFCxHmtHTGU5 -
i am wondrous and enchanting. any opinion that differs from that is inherently bogus.1
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you may be seated.1
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Killers will stop complaining about things that make Survivors the powerful group when those things stop being a problem.
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@Skorpanio said:
please do. playing with a handicap is not necessary or even desirable for all.
I find it really funny how you try and defend yourself against the whole goddamn community.
Go play something else and stop complaining.
You're the last thing we all need!I think he just wants and needs attention. He isn't very good as killer in the game and needs to justify his inadequacy on SWF. SWF can be annoying, and the right group can be OP but it is a game. It is not a balanced game, it may never be so play the game or don't. SWF will never go away. I play on the same platform as @EpicFailTryHard and deal with the same groups, its just a ######### game get over it unless this game is all you have. If it is i'm truly sorry for you.
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Me:
Actual evidence on that SWF isin't a cheat and that he should leave the game where it stands.EpicFailTryHard:
No evidence, very small explanations on everything such as:
i am wondrous and enchanting. any opinion that differs from that is inherently bogus.
you may be seated.Are you even trying to be nice at this point?
Or is your goal to trigger the community into thinking that SWF should be removed?
I don't get your point here at all. As you are the minority you should just leave instead of trying to defend your useless thoughts!2 -
BE GONE
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@EpicFailTryHard said:
fcc2014 said:Don't worry @EpicFailTryHard will have 10 response posts for this.
amen. i continue to be fascinated by what i have to say and wait on the edge of my seat for whatever is said by me next.
You are a Legend in your own mind!
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Going now, I can't stay here forever you know.
Have fun teaching this kid some mannors!
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If that is the case, then why not get a fifth friend in an the fun and play KYF? Why do you need random person to harass? Before you say you don't progress and get BPs, what's wrong with that? You are here to simply enjoy the game with friends right?Skorpanio said:I don't think SWF was made to make the game easier but to simply just be able to enjoy the game 'like any other game' with your friends.
Survivors like to claim that killers are sad because they have no friends to play with. If you have so many, get five people together and enjoy the game together.
As someone who boosted others and has been boosted by SWF, I can tell you that there are way too many benefits to it. Even if they are unintentional. Even a comment as harmless ar, "Eeeek, it's Myers! He's following me!" Gives way to much information to the other players. Nevermind telling the location of totems, traps, perks after death, etc, etc.
SWF is a problem, no matter how much Survivors defend their ez mode.5 -
@Goobz said:
Orion said:Killers will stop complaining about things that make Survivors the powerful group when those things stop being a problem.
Survivors really aren’t that powerful. Certain perk combos can make them pretty good but they’re not OP. Plus they’ve got this update coming soon that’s going to nerf the ######### out of them. SWF isn’t a problem. If you think it is then its obviously a user problem.
I will respectfully disagree on a few of your points. Survivors, esp SWF are the power group of the game. The next wave of nerfs and buffs will assist to make things a bit more balanced. The issue lies in the ability of SWF to communicate, state location of killers, inform teammates of patrolling or camping killers, if they are being tunneled. This level of communication was not intended in the original design of the game and does place the Killer at a major disadvantage. SWF is a problem, but it is not a problem that can be fixed or removed. It is a reality of how the game now. Personally, I do not dodge SWF lobbies. Hell, half the time, I do not pay attention to the lobby until the dong goes off for 5 seconds left. I can though understand why Killer mains do dodge SWF lobbies, and I do not hold that against them.
It is not a user problem, it is an addition to a game not designed for that addition. No matter how much others scream for it to be removed or nerfed, neither will happen because neither can happen.
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