A solution to our lovely little swf problem

@switch said:
No. just easier
x2 swf players = x2 perks disable (random)
x3 swf players = x3 perks disable (random)
x4 swf players = x4 perks disable

I'm not sure if this will completely fix the issue. Because of voice comms, SWF groups still have access to perks like Bond, Empathy, and Kindred. They just don't need perks spots to use them.

Replace Survivors with AI.

No more whine threads E.Z.

@TheXenoborg said:

@Visionmaker said:
Replace Survivors with AI.

No more whine threads E.Z.

Force SWF survivors to play with an AI killer. All problems fixed.

I'd be down with that lmao

Take out every player that plays with friends in the game and put them in an AI queue. I don't want ever to play with whiny, toxic players, and I don't really care if there is a player chasing us or an AI.

And whiny killer mains lobby dodge for every reason under the sun anyway, so who the hell cares? At least then would get to play with items and wear prestige without triggering somebody.

2 swf - no terror radius
3 swf - no terror radius and no red stain
4 swf - survivors have a terror radius and red stain.... FIXED....

@deadwolfwalking said:
2 swf - no terror radius
3 swf - no terror radius and no red stain
4 swf - survivors have a terror radius and red stain.... FIXED....

That is game breaking. That is way to overpowered. 2 swf and no terror radius? That is broken. Besides, I usually stay in 4 man swf so i can become better as killer.

@deadwolfwalking
How about this:
1 survivor- Permanent Ruin, 50% regression for a great skill check.
2 Survivors - 300% survivor action penalty.
3 Survivors - 100 Gens.
4 Suvivors - Insta down, 300% move speed bonus, teleportation, insta-mori, no terror radius, no red stain, see all survivors auras and if survivors move and they get the mangled status effect. Also 1000% more blood points for killer, 1000% less blood points for survivors, and they get set back to rank 20, killers get to rank 1.

This seems pretty balanced what if there are ANY swf the killer gets an epic 360 noscope gun that goes PEW PEW and instantly removes the survivor from the game.And any epic gamer that gets shot instantly TRIPLE de pips.PLUS the killer gets 100000% more bloodpoints and a QUADRUPLE PIP.Now remember this is to discourage people from having friends.If you play with friends you are a stinky doo doo head and you should be banned,facecamped,tunneled.

@SharpHandJoe said:
This seems pretty balanced what if there are ANY swf the killer gets an epic 360 noscope gun that goes PEW PEW and instantly removes the survivor from the game.And any epic gamer that gets shot instantly TRIPLE de pips.PLUS the killer gets 100000% more bloodpoints and a QUADRUPLE PIP.Now remember this is to discourage people from having friends.If you play with friends you are a stinky doo doo head and you should be banned,facecamped,tunneled.

The voice of reason.

nothing wrong with having friends.... nothing wrong with playing with friends.... but if you go in to a lobby to rob a man of points or pips, its you that need to be robbed.... SWF is awesome. go laugh it up. but you should leave on a hook.... not through a gate....

@MumboJumbo said:
@TheXenoborg
I feel that the add-ons would be a little bit crazy and the 2x bloodpoint bonus, but opting out and removing the cap or opting out and having the 2x bloodpoint bonus would be pretty helpful.

i agree with that too....

@TheXenoborg said:

@fcc2014 said:

@TheXenoborg said:

Technically a survivor main since 99% of my games are survivor. I rarely play killer. I also don't want SWF to be removed since I'm one of the people who actually wanted a mode like this back in 2016.

So why remove them from the lobby pool to play against AI. I think the trolls might like that but it would hurt the game long term.

I was being sarcastic. Seeing how most SWF players are trolls, maybe it's not such a bad idea?

This right here is why the people using swf as an excuse can't be believed. They use made up claims and then expect everyone to believe them. I play solo and swf as well as killer and my discord is always hilarious when playing.

We joke about the killer making bad plays as well as when we do like turning into a dead end. We'll joke about begging the killer to spare us and if we get dropped we think yay. Then they go ahead and hook us and we joke about how rude they were.

If the killer outplayed us we say good game, if we outplayed them it's the same thing. If the killer is camping us and just nodding at us non stop and smacking us hoping we give up we laugh. We then get serious and do gens more quickly and when they say ez I'l say.

Did you forget to bring the tent and campfire to go with your camp. IF they weren't too much of a jerk about it as in they only did it when gates were powered I'll say how rude it was not to have made a campfire so I could roast marshmallows while there.

Most of the killers get a laugh out of the good banter and some even apologize for the camp to which I respond it was all good and legitimate ocne the gates were powered. There's been time I'll let myself be caught if the killers played a good match and hasn't gotten anyone down. Because I want them to get some bonus points out of the match.

Lastly the made up bs about most swf are trolls is about as true as there's oxygen on Mars. There's probably some but not a lot and it's probably really hard to find. Just as in most games there's always going to be a toxic minority. This game is no different and that extend to the killer side as well.

I know this is a little out of place, but people are still going to want to play with their friends and want to bully the killer and then if a change to SWF would be made a big part of the community will backlash. Why not just back out if you think the survivors you're going up against are SWF? If they all load in at the same time just avoid the lobby/group. This is probably annoying and might not work 100% of the time, but it definitely will help instead of hurting those who play with one another, which makes up a lot of the player base.

i don't dodge lobbies. i'm not scared of SWF.... but i don't think the killer should be at such an extreme disadvantage. i wouldn't even opt out of the match. but i would like some compensation.... thats all i really want....

@TheXenoborg said:

Cool. Except there's abundant anecdotes in forms of posts, streams and videos of SWF mostly being an instrument for trolls.

That's not evidence though, that's simply a collection of people whining about it. How many videos and posts are out there that say the exact opposite? We could each post the exact same number of things yet you and the others would still say your facts are right etc.

Most of any given community never goes to a forum yet alone posts threads, comments or videos of any kind for the game they play. I've just as many post, threads, streams and videos of killers being toxic and or hacking. But that doesn't mean all killers are like that not by any means it's just a small % that does it and the same for survivor side doing toxic things.

I've seen solo queue survivors be super toxic before and in fact had a game this am where 1 survivor griefed another by tea bagging them in front of where they were hooked. The killer came and chased them around and when they tea bagged and tried to sandbag the unhooked victim the killer wouldn't take the bait. In fact the killer went after the toxic survivor and downed them and went after everyone else regularly but kept going after the toxic player 1st.

When I'm killer if I see someone being toxic on survivor side i hardcore go after them, i don't camp but they get my special attention. If I'ma survivor and someone is toxic I'll still try and help some but I'm not going out of my way for them.

Most people on both sides are decent and to claim otherwise is to do the temper tantrum 2 year old stomping in the corner with your hands over your ears.