We all know BHVR is going to nerf Demogorgon on the release.

Actually, people have been saying his teleport is very annoying when only 3 gens are left, and with his ability to see survivors working on gens near portals with his killer instinct, it makes it ridiculously hard to complete one last gen of the three remaining gens, since he always knows on which gens survivors are working, and he can teleport to those gens very fast.

Honestly, the developers bust their butts off trying to provide us with a masterpiece.

Nothing is going to change my mind about that because BHVR is awesome. :)

I dont know it, but I borrowed my Crystal Ball to a friend of mine. So I am handicapped on this.

I'm surprised Self Care gets so much hate. You still don't waste any more time when healing yourself than when being healed by someone else. It's just that healing in general takes longer now.

Understandable.

But it wasn't really a seperate nerf to Self Care, just that it had it's time increased because healing in general got nerfed. If Self Care waa faster than 50% however, then people would not have a reason to be healed by others, since it would be way more effective to just heal yourself. I guess maybe 60% healing speed for Self Care could work, since it does take up a perk slot, but it shouldn't be higher than that. The point of Self Care is to be able to heal yourself if there is no other survivor around that can heal you.

If you think about it, Self Care could be already considered to let you waste less time on healing because you don't have to waste time running to another survivor so they can heal you.

I've only seen negative reactions of his teleport... adding a cooldown on something that can be destroyed would be horrible

I mean you might be right. I don't know. I feel like with the cooldown being so low, even if the three gens aren't close to each other, he can still defend gens as if the survivors 3 genned themselves. It's not just the teleport, but also the ability to always see whether a survivor is working on any generator. So that, with the low cooldown of his teleport, seems to be a bit much for when only 3 gens are left. Freddy for example has a much longer cooldown on his ability. The others don't have any teleport ability and can't constantly see whether a survivor is on a gen or not.

I think if the cooldown was 25 or 30 seconds, it wouldn't be an issue anymore. We'll see, but I would be happy if they buffed Demogorgon in other ways to compensate for a cooldown nerf. At least I would expect them to do that, so he doesn't just get a straight nerf and nothing else. Cause in general he doesn't seem op, actually really balanced.

If there is one thing I do not want to see get nerfed, it's the lunge. It seems to be in a really nice spot.

I love how everyone brings up ghostface as evidence that bhvr nerfs everything, when the changes only made him easier to face at low ranks and had almost no impact at rank 1, which is apparently the only rank that matters.

I think if they do nerf it, a cool idea for a nerf would be that it can only see auras of survivors that are injured near the portals. This lines up with the show's lore too, since the Demogorgon smells blood to find prey. Unless it already does that and I'm being dumb since I haven't seen much gameplay of it yet.

They will slow down the dash, because "counterplay" I have already read some post game comments on this.

Survivors demand and bhvr delivers

no, critical changes were weakening his add-on that help you stalk and making him easier to reveal. He's like worse leatherface at getting instant downs. He has so many other flaws that make terrible which include the inability to gap-close targets that stalked, 0 map pressure, 0 chase potential. That guy needs some help at red ranks. A good starting buff would be to make it so that hitting survivors doesn't reset stalk meter, but who knows, that guy is getting looped no matter what. He's badly designed.

BVHR have habit of weakening killers, so my feeling is that this killer is going to new Billy where he can capitalize on survivors mistakes better than other killers, but he can be looped and experienced players will be able to beat him but lower rank players will whine similarly to Billy Chainsaw. That's my prediction.

Exactly. It will be something cack like that. They REALLY need to sort out the Pig's traps...they are pathetic.

The only thing that might be a little silly is the cooldown on missed lunges. It seems a little forgiving at the moment, and you can easily miss a pounce and attack again in a very short space of time. Should be a little more reward for successfully juking a pounce.

(Not anywhere near say Legions stun, maybe half a second or a second longer, if anything.)

demogorgon is already pretty weak, what do even nerf on him lol

the portal is useful pretty much only on 3 gen left , at all other points of game it feels underwhelming because 1 ) i need make new tp to even be able to tp . 2) there is limited amount of portals ,