devs why do you hate the pig
"Fixed an issue that caused The Pig's special attack, Ambush, and The Demogorgon's special attack, Shred, to trigger the Exposed status effect and down healthy Survivors."
Just why do you guys keep nerfing the pig?
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Uhm, because that's an unintended bug that would have broken her?
Or is this just some sarcasm I don't get?
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Some people don't like pork.
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How was it a bug in the first place then? its been more than a year and now they decide to do that?
My guess is that they replaced the word nerf with "fixed"
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"Fixed an issue" that means it wasnt intended. i love pig but bugs need to be fixed.
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Pig will hopefully get justice after the whole Demogorgon craze blows over.
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She moves at Nurse walking speed when Crouched. YES she is now Undetectable when Crouched, but if you're crouching EVERYWHERE, you're screwed. That and it's REALLY easy to dodge the Ambush as a survivor. The last 3-4 major content patches have had Pig nerfs buried deep within notes. While it's paranoia to believe that someone at BHVR doesn't like her, this regularly and consistent nerfing really kinda feels like it.
Will Undetectable work to compensate for NO On-Hit effects working with Ambush anymore (see my previous posts on the subject)? Potentially. But I doubt it.
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next you know they'll make the reverse bear trap trigger the deep wound status effect when the time expires instead of an instant death
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don't tempt them....
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She is not Undetectable currently because she can still be revealed by aura reading perks. Currently only the Demogorgon has Undetectable according to the patch notes.
Also, DEEEEEEEEEEEEVS *shakes fist*
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The bear trap now triggers the hemorrhage status effect.
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she is not undetectable.
patch notes mention nothing about that.
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Oh boy please let stealth killers be undetectable. OoO has been overpowered long enough.
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According to MClean they are SUPPOSED to this Chapter.
Ghostface, Pig, Wraith, Demo, and E1 Myers.
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Can i get the source?
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Oh god you're going to make me DIG through his Discord, aren't you? Gonna be a while. His DbD section is VERY active and it was when it was announced that Unaware and Undetectable were going to be things.
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Well that was easier then expected. Here yah go
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mmmmmm doubt that is live but im gonna test just to make sure.
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Yet, as someone pointed out, even though her ambush wont/shouldnt work with exposed, chainsaws with the limiter, DO.
So why not fix them all across the board, or allow lunges/special attacks that use your SWINGING weapon, to apply on hit affects.
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This is a bug fix. As mentioned previously, her ambush is not considered a basic attack and as a result is not supposed to trigger NOED. The same goes for other killers as well, like the Huntress.
This is the long term goal, but it takes time. Something like NOED working on a speed limiter is incredibly niche so it's a lower priority.
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FYI : pig, GF and wraith dont get undetectable!
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Just for curiosity, do you devs consider attacks after a blink/phasing/etc (m1 attacks done after the use of a power) as basic attacks or special ones?
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As a Wraith main this makes me happy thank u <3
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One of the designers would probably be able to word it better than me, but the distinction is: Is the power attacking someone, or is it just moving you? In the case of the Nurse, your power is just moving you. Blinking right up to a survivor doesn't injure them. (Also, good luck ever hitting a basic attack with the Nurse if blinks prevent it.)
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Ok am I not understanding what this bug is about? To me it sounds like Pig was able to one hit down survivors with her ambush attack whenever the bug happened. Or am I wrong?
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Ah ok, that makes sense now. I t´honestly thought the ambush attack sometimes just insta downed survivors.
Still, I personally don't see a problem with this fix.
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Thanks for the clarification :)
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Kind of how it reads. I can see the confusion.
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Imma go ahead and say it..... The SAW dlc is what brought me to the game and from the start NOED worked with the ambush...... for the devs to attempt to say that this was a bug just makes me think of when they attempted to change flashlight saves and pallet saves..... the ambush working with noed was intended you can't just say after like 2 years that "btw this was a bug" ........... the devs should have just stated "guys we wanna have consistency with the ambush and the pounce and we strongly believe that the pounce with NOED is going to be too strong" or whatever they tell us as long as their upfront.....
This type of shiet---> saying it's a bug when players that have played the game know it wasn't is bad for the the image of the company.
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We have stated exactly that just recently. This is what we were talking about when we changed the ambush to no longer be considered a basic attack a little while ago. Before that change, this bug was just the attack working as intended. Once it became a special attack, NOED was meant to not work with it.
EDIT: Double checked, it was 3.1.0 where the ambush was changed to be a special attack. This became a bug then.
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That's all fine and dandy, but wouldn't Speed Limiter Billy's and Bubba's saws allowing Exposed to work be considered a bug too? Because when last I knew, both of those were still a thing and both are identical to Pig Ambush.
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Aww... this made my Amanda's Letter build useless... : P
(Pair Amanda's Letter, Lery's, and Devour Hope.)
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