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Community Poll - Do YOU like the new matchmaking?
Yes/No + Reason (optional)
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As for the SWF based, yeah, I suggested the change many times in SWF related threads.
As for solos, no, it's still pretty bad, as rank 6 being matched sometimes with yellow or brown ranks.
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Overall, still remains to be seen, as I didn't pick up the game yesterday.
As far as the specific SWF changes, absolutely.
EDIT: First game with the new matchmaking had me, a green rank, going up against purple ranks and one red rank. So that's not a great first impression. We'll see how it continues.
EDIT 2: Low purple rank facing three red ranks and a yellow rank. >:C
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No, now as survivor I have people bringing in their yellow rank friends to red rank matches.
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The SWF stuff? I like it.
Yes.
Because a rank 15 killer could get rank 1 survivors if the rank 1 survivor had a rank 20 survivor friend before the change.
That 15 killer had no way to opt out of facing a rank 1 survivor.
That rank 20 survivor though in the new flipped system can opt out of facing a rank 1 killer by not playing with their rank 1 friend.
We went from one side (killer) not being able to opt out to the survivor having an option to.
Way better imo
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yes
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Yes. Up until this change, survivors were able to have a low ranked create the lobby and invite their high ranked friends and be paired up with a low ranked killer. Basically giving some the opportunity to bully killers way below their skill.
Now theres a choice to be made. Do low ranks survivors using swf want to
A) group with their high ranked friends and play agaisnt the high rank killers. Which means the high rank survivors would have to teach the low ranks on what to do and not to do.
B)group among same level friends and learn the game that way. Which would mean going agaisnt a killer in the same skill level as them.
The killer has always been alone. 1 vs 4. They have never had a choice of what survivors they wish to play agaisnt. It also elimanates boosting and is an overall much better experience for new killers.
I turned away from this game for a long time because being new and being bullied by high ranked survivors was not fun in any way or shape.
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Yes, the match making is faster and more fair now as killer
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It's fast and I don't see a rank farther than 4 higher or lower from mine. Solo by the way. I think its a good change.
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Yes but i think the swf queues could be faster not to bad but solo queuing is definitely faster for me
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He shouldn't be a question everyone should be happy no more bullies for the low rank killer. If not you should uninstall right now.
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Love it,
You cannot bully low rank killers anymore in SWF
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Yes - all above mentioned comments. Not to mention there are still an abundance of skilled players with tier 3 meta perks in between ranks 10 and 16
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Yes, it was a long needed change that will prevent newer and returning killers from dealing with toxic groups and prevents people from using their low rank friends for easier games.
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Yes
It's a fantastic change that bhvr has made... this is great for the health of the game and its community!
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Yes, I find games for both survivors and killers very fast. In both lobbys though i get a random swf with a low ranked player with them, but it's not effecting gameplay bad. They might have been a higher rank player who hasn't played in a while though. Got lucky i guess.
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Yes, I would like to be beaten by a high rank killer while 2 or 3 of my teammates escape rather than being pallet slapped in the face by 3 red rank survivors
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Yes
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Yes, I like that the queue times have improved over all for people as well as the SWF change that will prevent people from bullying lower ranks, and overall making them feel discouraged to play because of such toxic behavior.
BUT
I have to say what's on some peoples minds. The "rainbow rank" issue is still prominent throughout all ranks, and players are still being pinned up against lower ranks players at high ranks, and higher ranked players at low ranks. This issue by no means has changed and is still a prominent one that plagues the match making...
Also, despite queue times being improved for people, some have actually had worse queue times now... or slightly better. So the "improved queue times" only applies to some or a majority of people it seems... I have instant lobby's now as Killer, and at worse 2 minute ones as Survivor, but that doesn't mean others are also experiencing the same thing sadly.
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Yes and No.
Yes, because I don't must wait a years to get a game as the killer.
No, because I play with yellow/green players when I'm being on red rank as the survivor.
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It doesn't work for me. I have queue times of 4-5 minutes for BOTH solo surv and killer on PS4.
It doesn't make sense. If killer lobbies take 5 minutes, survivor lobbies should basically be instant, and vice versa.
I assume that BHVR's servers have problems handling the increased amount of inquiries (we have currently more players than usual).
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Nope.
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Don't really care.
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Maybe
Doesn't seem to have changed anything
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20 minutes for SWF red rank lobby is a joke, trashiest hotfix i've ever seen.
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No. I play on Xbox and the wait for a match is so annoying that I'm considering depiping on purpose, both as a killer and survivor. As a survivor, I find it ridiculous that I can't play with my friends with low ranks because they won't be able to deal with a high rank killer, so basically it's the system telling us to tell them "git gud, then come back to play with me" or "derank if you don't wanna play solo". And as a killer player also, I find ridiculous people considering this new system as sort of a payback/revenge for the former one, like the survivors were the ones to blame for a matchmaking that wasn't working as it was supposed to.
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No, I play with friends new to the game and they get to go against red rank killers because of my rank. Also, finding a lobby as survivor took me around 15 minutes EVERY time yesterday with my SWF party on Xbox.
Yes, as a killer the waiting is amazing, around 30 seconds and I'm in a lobby (purple rank)
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This is a killers' forum, so you'll see lot of yes. But it's by far less unfair than before. They're ruining this game and now we can't bring friends to play and buy this game.
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I play SWF a lot and it takes ages to get into a lobby. It was pretty bad before the hotfix but now it's a lot worse. I also don't like how i basically have to derank if i want to play with my lower rank friends.
Killer lobbies are indeed faster now but i'd like the same for survivor because that's the role i prefer playing.
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yes
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Yes, been asking for the change since launch. The best rank in an SWF should be the only rank that is considered for matchmaking. If you SWF with worse players you should be able to pull your weight and assist them.
To tl;dr getting rid of rank 1 + 20 swf bullying a rank 10.
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Yes
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No it should be balanced around the average, also it takes like 20-30 minutes to find a lobby, and even when you do the lobby it joins is usually bugged, or the killer leaves. Yesterday after the update it literally took over an over before we could even find 1 game. We pretty much needed another game to play while we waited it was ridiculous.
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I play solo survivor 99% of the time, so the SWF change doesn't affect me much. However, other people that are in SWF had yellow ranks on a red rank killer lobby. You can imagine how that went.
As far as wait times go, they're still very long on PS4.
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Yes.
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Yes, its funny to bully green ranks or yellow ranks to an extent but in the end it gets tiresome, I'd rather have to deal with the single red rank then a poor low rank killer
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Absolutely, this is the best change to swf ever.
Finally no more bullying
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Yes, btw help me im jailed.
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No, solely because now I cant enjoy playing with lower ranked friends that haven't learned all the tricks as red ranks need. I played a game yesterday with a 11 and 15 friends and they got destroyed in mins of playing a rank 4 killer. I'm rank 1 btw. At least when it was averaged. It would be a rank 8 or something. Which is still good enough to play red ranks survivors. But also I dont play toxic in a ahole way. I play to survive and that my team survives. O fyi I play both survivor and killer. Just so you cant say I'm one sided.
And also ranking is broken anyway. You can be a rank 10 killer that use to be rank 1 so really dont see the issue. Or the needed change.
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Yes, It's nice to see steps in the right direction to closing the gap between SWF and Killer.
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But it doesnt close it. It just makes it impossible to play with certain friends
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SWF by default gives you an advantage, Being matched with a killer of the highest player in that group seems fair to me.
Having it go on an average lead to too many instances where people would play with multiple red ranks and one brown in order to get matched with a killer that wasn't on the same level and would easily get looped by the higher ranked players.
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No - all though I like the easier win but feel terrible when I see the ranks 😔...
My fear is that we'll go back to killers having no lobbies or crap killers at red ranks complaining when they actually play a good solo team.
It's not good in the long wrong at all.
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Yes I like the change to SWF lobbies. No more lower ranked killers going versus higher ranked survivors due to them chosing to play with low ranked friends is a great change.
The rest seems to be working most of the time but there are a few occurences where it does put some from other ranks in but that could be down to population in the player ranks.
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This will hardly change the experience mid-tier and low ranking killers get by much. If anything this will drive up the number of people deranking so they can play with their friends.
Why would I for example force my friends to play versus rank 1 killers when they hardly play this game? They aren't trying to be E-sport DBD players, and the game is balanced more around killer if you have no idea how to properly play survivor.
You just watch the number of DC and derankers go up, it's a guarantee for people that already got the rank 1 achievement. Red ranks mean nothing to them anymore, unless you want to sweat every match.
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DCing will go down when they implement the dc queue penalty after servers come.
If people want to throw a ton of games to derank i doubt killers will complain. Easy wins it just hurts the survivors you're with.
Eventually survivors will be in a corner where they can't dc because their timer gets too long and they hate eachother because they could throw to derank.
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You do realize those servers ain't coming anytime soon and DC isn't the only way to derank. You can just ensure you get one hooked everygame and be just as efficient with no timer.
I personally don't mind the change but I'm not gonna pretend like it's gonna change much.
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I didn’t mind the swf change (survivor side), when I play with friends we’re usually 4-10 rank so it doesn’t bother me lol. Solo wise I noticed it’s a lot faster to get a match which is r e a l l y nice
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Yes, it was very much needed. Now they need to balance it so that solos get grouped with similar ranks.
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They're coming before 2020.
I am aware dcing isn't the only way i even addressed that in my post. Deranking by throwing/playing bad will only annoy other survivors it won't hurt the killer at all.
It will change a lot but not immediately.
Servers need to release to handle dcing and the survivor community will slowly gather against people who derank intentionally by other means since no one will want to play with those people.
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Yep. I play both equally and I remember before the emblem changes and pipping changes to killer it was sooooo easy to rank up.
Then I started seeing all the complaints. They tweaked it a little but made it harder for survivors to rank up. More complaints from killers about play and then the wait time being forever because very few survivors could get back to red ranks.
What we'll see ONCE AGAIN is crap killers getting to rank up them complaining about survivors, nerfing of survivors to oblivion and then looooong wait times.
Tried playing killer last night no matches after 40 min. Tried this morning and destroyed. It wasn't enjoyable after seeing the end game screen with the ranks.
As a survivor and killer I'm just going to de-pip so I can find a match. Seriously on PS4 it's a MESS. One red rank 3 Grey's c'mon that's such a put off.
I got a msg from one kid asking how he got in my lobby. He got the game for stranger things still at Rank 18 and gets into my lobby. He said he wasn't a SWF but suspected the other 2 were...
Made a knew friend but now we can't play together because he's had such a terrible experience playing. I'm currently re-downloading a game he has (I already had it) just to play something enjoyable.
Survivor's guilt in this game has a whole new meaning now... Don't play with your friends they'll either get slaughtered or never find a lobby.
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