The Amanda's Letter add-on for The Pig has been Kill Switched due to an issue with incorrect RBT count.
http://dbd.game/killswitch
Deprive SWF get rank and get BP
If people like to play SWF with voice ok lets they do it but without rank and bloodpoints.If people wanna get rank and BP all players in match will play solo.Ur thought about it?
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Excellent way to kill the game.
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That's a great way to push people away who just want to play with friends casually.
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ahahahahah play but if u wanna rank play solo and get rank solo with random
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No.
There's no mechanical difference between solo and SWF as far as the game itself is concerned, and that won't ever change.
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I mean if u wanna play with rank and BP play solo if u wanna play for fun and voice play without BP and rank
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How would you propose that they implement and enforce this, hypothetically?
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I think that’s a little overkill. But, SWF does provide a huge advantage, and everybody knows it. It can quite literally translate to having the benefit of running numerous perks, without actually running them. It’s not fair to killers, and it’s not fair to survivors who don’t play swf for whatever reason. I would like to see some sort of balancing factor in the future, but I don’t think barring ranked play and bloodpoints is the way to go.
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Yes. This has been a thing since the beginning and always will be.
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I have a feeling certain people are going to pounce on this statement with regards to the recent matchmaking changes. :P
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that's just bad luck
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It's not punishing.
I 4k SWF 9/10 times.
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I don't do twitch.
I'll stream tomorrow afternoon.
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This isn’t a good business model. People shouldn’t be penalized for playing together, that’s just bad game design in my opinion. As the games current status is much better than it was awhile ago.
Removing the bloodpoint gain (and rank gain) would cause cue times to extend, due to survivors likely trying to leave the lobby after lobby to match with their friend.
SWF is fine— Solo-Play should be touched upon all else, since they contribute to 50% of players in said matches.
A four man SWF is fairly rare. Please refer to the data from the data from the community requested stats.
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If you're curious:
Spirit
Nurse's Calling
Ruin
STBFL
BBQ
Generally PB + MDR or YA + KT.
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What you already did with your latest SWF-change.
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Even playing against SWF its still RNG, so many factors can determine the outcome of a match, not all SWF are sweaty elite groups, nor are they all toxic squads, more often they will be overly altruistic, screwing around with meme builds etc.
Yes you will get occasional stomped and humiliated, others you'll find yourself laughing when you come across 4 Claudette's all in the basement crouching around in a circle.
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@Peanits I mean if friends like play together let play with random killer but noone (killer and survivors) not get rank and BP. I think u know that VOICE in SWF its a big trouble because Voice is a advantage,voice its when some killer's perks not work. But thanks for answer
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So you're proposing that a random killer also gets no points because a couple friends are playing together, possibly even just casually, not trying super hard to win or anything. I could be wrong, but I feel like the killer in that situation might take issue with that.
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People seem to forget this is a casual party game. Not something you punish friends for playing together.
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I have joined matches with random solo players where they advertise their Discord server to join voice chat. If you think SWF is the only time this is done, you are fooling yourself. Most SWF groups are not very good. This is a lot of fuss over nothing.
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@PeanitsI don't know this situation one by one SWF and killer's emblem system so not tasty cocktail.SWF so difficult but playable...but when with this emblem system idk.really...kill all fast u lose,use memento u lose or get 0,i remember when I without memento caught 4 surviviors and depip omg...I like this game I know u made hard work but plz think that all players like to play as killer as survivors...thanks for answer and good luck
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I don't know why killers want ALWAYS 4k. I play to have fun and when the doors open I escape or I return to help someone or I let the killer kill me. And the game is exactly the same
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@joan Some if it is because there are some survivors who play very toxic. They mock the killer, often are deranked to toy with the killer. Then get very toxic after the match. It causes some who might otherwise be casual to become jaded. Luckily, I played survivor long enough to know what it is like to have toxic killers and play styles. Therefore, I tend to ignore toxic survivors and take their "victory" with a grain of salt. What keeps me coming back is the fun survivors who make for a great game, and sometimes some foolishness as well.
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No.
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So what about rewarding players for playing alone?
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Omg this word corrector will make me mad
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That's also not really possible for two reasons.
- You could just solo queue at the same time as your friends to get in the same lobby to get that reward.
- No matter how you try to sell it, giving a reward to people who aren't playing with friends is a reward that you're not giving to people who are playing with friends. Excluding people from a reward is still a punishment. It's not different from giving SWF a bloodpoint penalty.
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Is it actually possible to consistently control two friends getting into the same lobby?
Is there any way I can consistently do this as Killer and a friend as Survivor? I want to go up against them in a live match with potentially good randoms on their Survivor team. As my friend does not have any frequent or good DBD players to play in Custom Game with.
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You're sarcastic, right? A SWF team has a much higher chance of winning because of coordination potential.
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That's not a mechanical difference.
A mechanical difference would be something like SWF having repair speed penalties or as OP proposed, that they can't rank up or gain BP. The things that makes SWF strong aren't mechanical advantages because as you said, it comes primarily from their ability to coordinate.
As far as the game is concerned SWF is just a way to put several people to the same lobby and nothing more.
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And as far as killers who want to have fun are concerned, SWF is too strong and the game wasn't designed to have that feature in it, but it's in because of massive demand.
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SWF is just a different game mode. Rise to the challenge. The change your suggestion is like killing the game.
Not every SWF is a sweat death squad. Its friends playing casually. Most killers dodge these lobbies like the plague and get crushed when they end up playing SWF. It's a matter of skill you either dodge and nvr get the skill or you play against them and obtain the skill required to play against them.
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LOL, if they want to play casually them play KYF, atleast try to defendes CheatWithYourFriends
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Prove to me SWF is cheating.
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Implying using VOIP apps is cheating is completely unproductive and a waste of time. It has been explicitly stated on this very forum that it's not considered cheating by the developers themselves.
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In a game that is all about information, being able to tell your teammates who is the killer, what perk he is using, what he is doing is basically using a wallhack, i don't ######### care if devs say that this stupid unfair advantage ins't cheating, i can't take seriously words from the devs, they took years to fix infinite loops, DS, double pallets and vaults, and they still didn't fix totally most of those problem, the major problem like gen rush they use band-aid fix like Ruin and Corrupt Intervention, using perks to fix core mechanics problems is the most stupid thing i've seen in this game, also when DBD was in Beta SWF didn't even exist, but like they always do, they gonna release a band-aid perk to fix everything and ignore that SWF is a problem.
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They've said that SWF was intended from the get go. And lol. Genrushing isn't a thing. Rarely ever does something like it occur
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1 Trouble to SWF its when they (friends) can give information each other,about totems about pallets where pallets was used...where for example killer stay with insidious :D Look at this situation for example corn field map .Killer run to survivor and surv. talk in discord "Hey,my friends run from killer and I saw near combine totem with hex,go someome brake and I will continue loop killer" and u think its not advantage?????????
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Absolutely not, swf isn’t ruining my killer fun and they shouldn’t be punished for playing with friends.
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Playing against a SWF group is not a punishment.
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That's based on your experiences. You do not speak for each player...
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Neither do those that say swf ruins the killers fun.
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It would be nice it BHVR could cater to each individual's experience but that's just not possible...
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so who gets priority?
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without killers, there is no dbd.
without survivors there is no dbd.
please expand on your ever saving solution that is accepted by the majority of dbd players... not just you, I invite all ppl on the forum to do what the dbd team has yet to do...
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it's easy to armchair solutions, but you have nothing at stake. if the game flops, you just move on to the next game...bhvr employees get displaced if the game dies...
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like one of the worst things i’ve heard.
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Update:
Currently live.
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Surprised they just didn't move to killer.
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