Punish killers who tunnel

It's not fun being tunneled and camped. I think everyone is aware of this, and as it sucks, it will most likely continue to happen regardless. Losing pips for killers that do this may actually entice people to do it, because they may want to derank on purpose.

My suggestions to make this more fun, would be more along the lines of adding more points to survivors so at least if you have to deal with that, you get BP. Like recovering while on the ground/slugged etc nothing (That was mentioned elsewhere on the forum). getting facecamped/killer in range, can get extra points, boldness? lol. Something along those lines, because you really can't stop it from happening entirely. But as mentioned there are perks thankfully that will help to deal with these things.

Not progressing hook tho is a very interesting idea.... I didn't think of that. There is the new perk ofcourse that just came out, which only slows the hook progression. But if killer is facecamping... hmmm. That would definitely stop a facecamping killer, in that he cant camp someone to death and move to the next one and so on, he would actually have to leave or move a certain distance or so... and potentially only guarantee a 1k, if all 3 just leave.

This is like saying "Punish survivors for hook swarming or gen rushing!"

Tunneling is legitimate strategy of play that is sometimes necessary to do. Now if you're getting tunneled that doesn't feel great to you, but you're not in a position where the game is actually impeded from progressing. There are no hard rules for killers or survivors to follow as to how they should play. You also can't dictate your personal rules upon them. It a killer wants to play hyper efficiently then that is what they are going to do. If the killer prioritizes hooking you because you have a map or key that is what they'll do.

You have ever right to play just as efficient do whatever it takes to get your objective completely as long as you don't go outside the bounds of the game to do it. Same goes for camping and we've already tried what you wanted. It didn't work out well at all. What everyone who has been around long enough learned was that it is better to incentivize leaving the hook than do heavy handed punishments that affect the game. People who only camp will camp no matter what. They aren't interested in pipping or ranking so your suggestion would solve nothing. What it would do is overly punish situational camping which is a bad idea. Killers already cripple their emblem score, not bloodpoint gain, emblem score for camping. So that combined with things like BBQ and Devour Hope incentivize leaving the hook have curved a lot of camping. It's never going away unless core mechanics of the game change to make it have zero viability. Which means pretty much changing the conditions under which a survivor is killed.

if tunneling is going to make them lose 2 pips then lots of people will do it to have lower rank and easier games with shorter queues - in short they will depip on purpose. That is not the correct way to deal with tunneling (which is kinda toxic but still available strategy in game)

Having played a lot more killer lately, I don't think most killers actively tunnel.

When someone is unhooked, especially if I'm not near by, I'm going to head back there because thats the one place on the map I KNOW there are going to be survivors near by. I'm simply looking for the NEXT survivor I see - if that happens to be the guy just off the hook, thats who I'm going after.

I'm not going to go look for someone else in that case, because they could be long gone, or are likely much better and more experienced since THEY didn't run right to where the killer is likely going to check.

More than likely, its just bad luck.

Im no expert, but I doubt the game could recognize the difference between a malicious tunnel and normal gameplay. Getting tunneled is annoying but sometimes its accidental, and sometimes it was strategic. There isn’t a way to punish a few toxic people without punishing everyone who plays killer and that’s just never gonna happen.

I do think it would be fair to compensate survivors who get camped better, since the game can tell when it happens for the emblem scores. I think if you get camped on your first hook before the gates have powered and go into struggle, your struggle points should double cause why tf not.

And killers who tunnel don't pip either because the gens get rushed.

"Also, gens cant be hooked, cant be tunneled, cant be slugged, cant depip, dont have BBQ Ruin Noed etc."

This has nothing to do with the topic. Should I mention all the perks and items survivors have to counter tunneling as well?

And for the record, yes gens can be tunneled. IE ignoring a hooked survivor and letting him die to do gens.

Decisive would like to have a word with you

Dude ds has been nerfed and still is the strongest perk in game.

"Survivors should lose a pip if they complete more than one generator in 100 seconds." This is your logic.