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Decisive Strike
Let me preface this by saying that I believe DS is in a very good spot at the moment. Obviously, this shouldn't be high up on the devs priority list, as I think there are FAR more important issues to be addressed first. That being said, Decisive Strike is an anti-tunneling perk. However, if a Killer is very efficient or if the Survivor is...aggressive, you can still be hit by it even if you are not intending to tunnel. Obviously, the main counter to this is to slug. While that is a good point, the Killer shouldn't be denied a hook due to a Survivor playing poorly.
Again, this shouldn't be high up on the list, but I propose that Decisive Strike be changed so that it will reset whenever a new Survivor is hooked. In compensation for this, allow it to trigger on both hook stages. That way, for the people who legitimately do not try to tunnel excessively, it has no effect on them. The people who do, however, it will hurt them more.
I personally, do not think there is anything wrong with tunneling. I do recognize that it is NOT a very fun way to play the game, sort of like how rushing through gens is not exactly fun. That being said, what do you guys think?
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ds would take the throne for being more situational then unbreakable lmao
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What do you mean?
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D'S is a fair perk but yet people seem to not understand that it's meant to counter or at least avoid being tunneled. People wouldn't feel as if they have to run it if camping and tunneling didn't happen so often!
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It has nothing to do with camping. At red ranks, if you are an efficient Killer, you can down someone going for the rescue and down the rescuee as well. Then you get hit by DS. That isn't tunneling. I don't see why you would resist this change unless you don't care about it being anti-tunneling.
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@Pulsar I didn't mean to include people that down the hooked survivor then chase the unhooker. I'm talking about the people that would legit stand behind the unhooked, wait till they finish the animation, and just hit and hook them.
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That is the unhooker's fault for playing VERY agressively and not unhooking with Borrowed. In this situation, if he downs the unhooked guy, he would get hit by DS. If he hooks the unhooker, no DS but the unhooked player got away.
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Tunneling? Otherwise known as counting or paying attention. If someones been hooked twice and theyre dumb enough to come near me they are gone, I do not care. I dont follow made up rules that survivors try to invent that only benefit them. The 4% rule is a joke, I really like hitting them as soon as their feet hit the ground. camping? Go do gens. Tunneling? Get better at evading. But Ds is good, its about the only thing that can help them escape at the end since they nerfed MoM to dust. DS doesnt need any buffs or nerfs.
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Again, I do not think there is anything WRONG with tunneling. However, it is not a very fun way to play. You totally missed the point.
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Tenacity+ Flip Flip+ DS+ Unbreakable. You arnt trying hard to be confrontational.
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Ive been seeing this suggestion a lot. I understand that if youโre just playing really well getting hit with DS is annoying. And it is ANNOYING. But letโs be real.. if your playing so well youโve hooked someone between an unhook and re-downed last person rescued and STILL get hit with it, Iโd say that you have enough pressure that 5 seconds shouldnโt be too much of a loss.
Like, look how much you got done in less than 60.. eat the stun and down them again or if you know you were too quick, slug them for a bit. The cases where that stun will cost you the game are extremely rare.
On a side note, forcing someone to get stunned by jumping into a locker IS kinda bs. Especially since people like to combine it with head on.
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I get your point fine. You said its an anti-tunneling perk that should reset when someone else gets hooked. That ridiculous. Giving someone 6 DS in 1 match? Youre out of your mind. There no such thing as tunneling. Its an imaginary rule of the survivors who dont like being chased, and can't handle losing.
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Tbh, I've been seeing Flip-Flop, Unbreakable, Dead Hard and Decisive.
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nah fam you need a lil bit of b o i l o v e r
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Except, if that's at the beginning of the game, two people just got away. That KILLS any pressure you had.
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60 seconds of immunity that you can just jump in front of a Killer or in a locker or something isn't anti-tunneling. It's like people using BT to body block (which I have seen). Abusing a Perk cause you can. Why should I have to count a full minute for every survivor for a meta perk that likely they will all use? I think it should deactivate when someone else is hooked. There, you haven't been tunneled then.
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Yeah, the Head On thing was what I was thinking of too.
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I think you might be, honestly. I designed this to be good for both Killers and Survivors. If you cannot handle that, get better at Killer. Seriously, one Killer main to another. Get better if you cannot win without tunneling. I have no problem with it, but it isn't fun.
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Oh... Ick. Don't do that. I want to use Mad Grit.
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I agree, I tried to make this as fair as possible. I gave both what I would want as a Survivor, i.e. a chance. And what I would want as a Killer, which is to not be hit by it when I'm not tunneling.
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When you use Mad Grit at rank reset and get called a hacker/exploiter.
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If we're going to be honest with ourselves 60 seconds is a long time so to call it an anti tunnel perk isn't true and also people love using it during egc to be toxic
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Or you're getting destroyed, start to do some good plays, hopefully building crazy momentum and...it's gone.
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I think he meant the timer should go away if someone else is hooked. That's what i mean when i say it. Like you have 30 seconds left but someone else gets hooked. You lose the 30 seconds.
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This has happened to me.
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I might do it on purpose :D
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DS Being advertised as the ultimate anti tunnel perk is silly imo. If killers REALLY wanted to tunnel you you would get hard tunneled with a mori and DS wouldn't have a chance to be used.
Especially vs Freddy who could also bypass BT to prevent you from hopping in a locker if you were try that.
I think moris to fight DS is dumb though i'd prefer your way.
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You, I like.
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I'd like that change.
Maybe also disable the perk during EGC because right now it's just free escapes if someone unhooks you near a door that's open. And end game tunneling is different and shouldn't be a problem for survivors imo since there is nothing else for the killer to do.
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Yeah, im confused. I dont care. I play to win. Im a killer only(obviously) and I break every one of the survivors' imaginary rules they dreamed up. I dont care who looks down on it, respects it etc. You'd be shocked at how successful camping is. I prestiged leatherface 3x during double blood points. I camped every single match. 2 groups all weekend were smart enough to go do gens and i got bored standing there and left to go after them. Every other match survivors were all around the hook, taunting & tbagging trying to lure me away then they get desperate and go for rescue while Im standing there chainsaw revved up and down they go. Now theyre hooked. Rinse & repeat. DS doesnt need any buffs or nerf. Stupid people dont deserve more ds attempts.
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o-o Breathe man.
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If someone gets unhooked and gets downed.. Then someone else gets hooked. They could just come back to the person that got unhooked and downed (with ds) and pick them up without DS proc because they hooked someone? That doesn't seem great? Or maybe I misunderstand it.
Stupid people dont deserve more ds attempts.
I don't agree with calling people stupid. And I don't see how it is stupid for survivors going to unhook, as it is a part of the game and that is kind of the general idea of what you should be doing... I like this game because it has counters to different type of play styles, killer and survivor alike. I think because of these perks it makes it worth trying to unhook.
In general people don't play survivor to do 5 gens and escape, they like the chase and interaction with the killer. That makes the game exciting and fun. Also "Winning" takes on different meanings for this game, I assume to you that means a 4k. Do you value your time? I ask because if you did, if you practiced chasing and the rest of the game and got really good at it, you could most likely be one of the killers that can destroy teams at 5 gens still up. Gaining more points at a faster rate, while sharing with others. win/win
I mean you basically admitted that standing around a survivor facecamping them, it gets boring.. so I'm just throwing it out there, that you could change up your gameplay style. You may enjoy it more and you may even make some friends.
@ASAPTurtle I don't know what being jailed means o.o
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DS is not strictly an anti-tunneling perk.
It can be utilized as more than that. Which is why people seem to have an issue with it because then they think "But I wasn't tunneling...".
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I camp when survivors are all buzzing around the hook like flies. Why would I run off? They come to me 99% of the time. BBQ&chili also tells me theyre close if i dont see an aura(Locker i know). So again, why would I run around like an idiot if the survivors are all close? If they would do gens instead of racing to rescue I would leave. I play as killer to kill people. Not to ensure survivors have fun, Im not there to play by imaginary BS rules.
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@THEFREAK420 idk who you are talking too. but. If survivors are swarming all around the hook, I don't consider that camping at all. I think the words have different meanings to people and causes misunderstandings to happen. I don't think killers are idiots for "running" around either.. You don't HAVE to do anything. If you want to play a certain way that goes along with the rules, than GL to you. However, that particular type of play style is what creates perks like DS, and BT etc. Which is what started the topic.
And I agree people should not be bound to someone else's set of 'imaginary' rules for playing any video game.
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Someone is absolutely stupid if they try to unhook with leatherface standing there, chainsaw revved up and waiting. What do you think the outcome is gonna be? The rescuer goes down. So stupid is an offensive word now? LOL call the snowflake police Im being toxic
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"abusing the perk" โข๏ธ
Dude for real, using any perk in a slightly more daring way or in a way you don't condone is not abuse.
Also, ds is not even meant to be an anti tunneling perk and nothing else. It's just useful against tunnelers, that doesn't mean it should ONLY work when tunneled.
That's like saying noed is an anti genrush perk - yet it still activates when survs didn't rush gens, so it should be disabled after 10 minutes because there's clearly no genrush going on. Sounds ridiculous? That's the logic you're defending. Please go outside.
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Eh DS is fine where it is, itโs a crutch perk to keep someone in the game a bit longer. I try to avoid downing the same person within a minute after they got off hook, but if they are baiting the ds Iโll just slug or leave them.
At the same time itโs useful to stop tunneling which can be frustrating, so I donโt mind it when Iโm killer cause I know the feel of getting tunnelled as survivor.
Adrenaline is far more game breaking IMO, makes any late game strats the killer had turn to ashes.
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No such thing. I say that tunneling is when you get unhooked killer comes back to get you picks you up and instantly goes to put u back. I have seen many killers do that. Even left a chase to do it. I just played a doc that did that.
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I do not agree with calling people stupid, that is exactly what I said. You choosing to call people stupid, is your opinion. Not mine. There are perks to help counter stuff and situations that a bubba failed, even with his saw revved up to actually down the survivors and the survivor gets unhooked. It does happen, maybe rare for you. And the idea of making perks to help counter or can help in these situations I see no issue with. A "valid" strategy can have a "valid" counter after all. End of the day, it is just a game.
No need to take offense.
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this is camping and tunneling, isn't it?
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surely you didn't get any pips tho, or are you not bothard about that. when people do what you do it is not fun. that is why camping should not happen. if all other survivors are around hook go and get one of them, let the hooked be rescued, everybody happy. that is the point of the game isn't it? killers try to hook all survivors twice for maximum points, stay away from hooked, for maximum points. why would you be so upset that you can see the next survivor and then CAMP!
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Why would I leave a perfectly good hooked person to chase someone that's gonna loop me? That's like asking me to walk off in EGC when there is LITERALLY nothing else for me to do.
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do what you normally do, when you don't camp. i really don't see why killers complain when thay have a lot more kills v survivors survived.
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I use Thrilling to see what Gen is being worked on and go there. Or BBQ. I mean, camping is a terrible strat, but not illegal. Let's be real though, if its me, and you are on the hook and your friends are teabagging in the exit gate, then imma stare at you. Trust me, they got BT, you will be fine.
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Yah know, maybe 2 or 3 weeks ago I fell for a Camping Bubba at the killer shed for the first time in a very long time. To his credit, he didn't camp IN the basement, just around the corner near the god pallet.
When that tone played and I heard the chainsaw rev with the red light on me, I legit jumped out of my skin and panicked.
Near as I could tell thinking about it, he posted up between the god pallet and window on the outside. And the moment he heard my footsteps on the shed floor, he sprung his trap.
I wasn't mad at the killer though - I blamed myself as I knew something felt off about how the terror radius disappeared. I also didn't keep my head and run to the window instead of trying for the pallet he blocked.
Gave me a memorable moment in the game - and one of the few times a killer legit tricked me. Kudos to him.
Oh wait, I'm a survivor now - I guess I should call him trash and hope he and his family get cancer? I mean, that's what people typically do to me when I beat them, right?
XD
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they got BT what does that mean?
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Borrowed Time. Welcome to the game, btw.
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i am not going to know everything am i? i have never seen this abbriviation before. no wonder i couldn't work it out cos you said they are at exit, how would this make me fine by you staring at me until entity has took me?
you kinda made me laugh tho cos i thought it was all the t bagging that gave std (bt) that is why i would have been fine๐๐
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Cause they have Borrowed time, will get you at full health, body block and you get away. and the welcome was mostly a joke XD Also STD from Tbagging... that would get rid of alot of survivors i think
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i would like the raging guy @THEFREAK420 to reply please ๐
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