Solution to Camping and Buffing Solo Players

Because survivors were already given Omni directional dehooking and a longer hook time as the standard. You want to make it a perk? Fine then let's regress the hook timer to what it was before and survivors can choose to use a perk slot for those mean ol campers instead. 
Slower timer when no one is coming to save you? Ok that gives the killer the all clear no one is about. But if they are waiting to farm you, timer goes faster instead. The more survivors, the faster the timer. 

@Orion said:

@Someissues said:

@Orion said:
Use Kindred.

Kindred is trash cuz a Killer can easily go beyond 16m and no one uses it at High Ranked

It would only be a good perk if it has 32 meters, but again this is something which the game should have from the beginning, shouldn't be a perk at all

32 meters is too big, there's a bunch of stuff to be done 32 meters away from the hook, and you shouldn't have the ability to see the Killer 24/7 at that distance. If you want to see the Killer's aura, Kindred is the only way to go. You want to punish camping? Do generators and convince every Survivor to do the same, because until camping stops being rewarded, campers will not go away.

its 8 meters. you can literally just stand 10m and still camp with full view of hook and get there easily in 2 seconds.. waste of a perk slot past rank 15

@P3Myers said:

@Orion said:

@Someissues said:

@Orion said:
Use Kindred.

Kindred is trash cuz a Killer can easily go beyond 16m and no one uses it at High Ranked

It would only be a good perk if it has 32 meters, but again this is something which the game should have from the beginning, shouldn't be a perk at all

32 meters is too big, there's a bunch of stuff to be done 32 meters away from the hook, and you shouldn't have the ability to see the Killer 24/7 at that distance. If you want to see the Killer's aura, Kindred is the only way to go. You want to punish camping? Do generators and convince every Survivor to do the same, because until camping stops being rewarded, campers will not go away.

its 8 meters. you can literally just stand 10m and still camp with full view of hook and get there easily in 2 seconds.. waste of a perk slot past rank 15

Read the comment of the person I was replying to instead of assuming I don't know how Kindred works.

did you know killers have a perk called insidious that is specifically made so that killer can camp

that would mean that the devs want camping to be a viable strategy , so take your "fix camping" threads and shove them

@Someissues said:

@fluffybunny said:
You guys are thinking of swf. We're talking about adding a buff to communication possibilities that will positively influence solo play, which can be difficult. If you're not aware it can be a pain, maybe try playing it yourself. Sometimes, survivors will farm and sandbag, which being able to to warn everyone to avoid being around them may be helpful. In situations with killers camping or with no one coming, it'd be helpful to notify the group as such, too. Other games have more communication options. Why can't DbD?

Kindred being in the base kit of survivors may be a good idea, too, though it should probably be nurfed to exclude the killer's whereabouts unless that isn't too op. Otherwise, just being able to press a button or to type out that no one's coming could also be helpful.

Identity V have Kindred for all survivors by default, to help balance solo players with SWF, and the game is more or less balanced towards SWF (meaning it's harder to survive solo), but there are many benefits as i mention like solo players being able to communicate and such

saying it's fine nothing needs to be changed are you aware then the possiblity of balancing SWF is 0? If they buff solo players near SWF standards they will balance SWF. This worked in Identity V and the Killers are still crazy strong on that game

i am speaking this as a Killer main, it's quite sad many people don't get this and kept their biased view on it's fine its fine

People don't like change. I think that's the biggest issue. Honestly, the game could benefit from a buff to solo play (if there was built in kindred and other methods of communication). We can't just get rid of SWF since it is quite popular, so we should buff solo play and also buff killers to counter swf and solo play. There's many things we can do and discuss, but most of these people are too busy being triggered to have a conversation.

There are three types of camping:

1) Face camping. Just staring into your victims eyes as they wriggle on the hooks. This is bad. It throws the game for the killer and ruins the fun for the survivors.

2) Nearby camping. Camping a hook nearby, within range. Killers should stop doing this as it does hurt them a lot. However. Survivors should stop feeding camping killers... Wait. No. We get punished, lose points, lose ranks, if we don't get those saves.

3) Patrol camping. Or lure camping. I like this. Adds a little cat and mouse to the game. Especially with a Wraith or Huntress. You do other things near the hook. Keep yourself busy. Break gens. Break pallets. Etc... You also stay just enough distance away for survivors to think it's safe. Then appear or get a crafty hatchet shot in fro ma good distance. Down one or injure another, then give chase to any left standing. This is fun.

I mean, hooks are in the game so that we still have a chance of saving our team. But they are a punishment. So if you get downed when saving someone; your fault. And if you get downed right after being saved; partially your fault but all I see are bad saves for days. Seriously. The bigger issue is teaching survivors to do safe saves.