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My Second Killer Tier List (3.3.2)
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Nurse and Spirit aren’t at the survivors mercy. They are the power role in a chase.
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I'm yet to die to either of them, too easy to counter
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Hag S tier lmfao
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Hag S tier lmfao
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Some nice constructive feedback there. ?
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Maybe C? Idk, I like Doc but he just isn’t very good compared to other killers.
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After i got good at hag, I've never lost a game with her. Very easy 4Ks EVERY game. Flashlights barely slow me down, and trying to run in and set off traps to "disarm" them always helps me. It's a free hit. I stopped playing her because she was too strong. No one complains about her because no one plays her, and those who do are absolute trash. I play survivor as much as i play killer, and as survivor, I've gone against one good hag, and it was Monto with bodyblocker hag. And he still messed up trap placements sometimes. Point is, no one complains because no one knows how good she is, there isn't a good, consistent example of it, and you can put her traps anywhere, so there are alot of plays you can make. Flashlights are a very soft counter to hag, and have a battery limit. The only thing that i would have a problem with is OoO flashlight, because then he actually knows where traps are, but then again, OoO is like signing a death wish...
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I usually avoid saying something like this but. You’ve never faced a good one. They dominate red ranks for a reason.
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Rank 17 is much different than Rank 1, I can assure you.
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Everyone writes Myers off as weaker than GhostFace... when they're quite equal.
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Until a streamer said ghostface was good, most preferred Myers.
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Lol... so because a streamer said GhostFace was good he's automatically better than Myers?
That's like... narrow minded but ok.
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Huntress gets cucked by way too many maps to consider her top 5 anymore. Literally all of the new maps ( Family Residence, Mount Ormond, Temple of Purgation, Hawkins Laboratory ) are garbage for her. The old maps like Coldwind Farm and MacMillan Estate have buildings and loops which just she can't contest. She gets nerfed by everytime a new map that is added and by even minor changes added to the old maps ( like adding more trees in the MacMillan Estate maps ). Even 2000 hours Huntress mains are gonna DC on Haddonfield, Lery's, The Game, Hawkins, and that says a lot.
Plague is really underrated because if survivors don't cleanse, then they are 1 shot the entire match and they can't hide. She counters medkits, all healing perks including Adrenaline and all stealth perks including Iron Will and she can always bring Apples to make sure she gets Corrupt Purge no matter what survivors do. She also has better perk synergy than Huntress and she has some really dirty slow down builds and snow ball builds ( Infectious Fright is really good on her ).
That's why I would put Plague in top 5-7 and Huntress barely top 10.
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Yep
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Smh...
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Ya that's right... Plauge is mid tier... carry on.
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People love to follow what a streamer says instead of coming up with their own views and opinions. It’s easier for them that way.
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:/
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Its funny because I’ve gotten a lot of people telling me their reasoning for a specific killer at a specific tier is because they’ve seen *insert streamer here* play them well. I personally have Ghostface over Myers simply for Myers having a slow start in early game. Yet.. they’re right by each other.
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I also saw some really good Huntress players DCing on multiple maps, so despite her having the potential to be really, she is too map dependent to be worth of top 5 anymore. I barely see her even in top 10 now.
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I suppose it's easier to just follow what someone says than make the assumption yourself...
Kind of narrow minded but to each their own I guess...
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Agreed.
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I'm rank 3 survivor rank 1 killer still too easy
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I'm a red rank, I just wasn't carried there and went against alot of nurses and spirits so I've learnt how to counter them, and it's actually really easy, nurse you require alot more precise movement I'll admit, been hit enough and hooked once by nurse and then just adapted from there along side the higher ranks, if it's those 2 I'll hunt s d bully them for thinking their some almighty God, I assure you, though, spirit is the easiest win ever, her power is useless once in a chase or Vs spine chill (main perk I use cause I try to be the one chased and this gives 6% vault speed when killer looks at you in 32meter range which in a chase, they are) and I have resilience (injured gives vault speed) my fast vaults are 15% faster when injured and looked at by killer, add that Vs spirit trying to walk around (which is obvious with spine chill telling you pretty much) the pallet of window you slight vault over and boom, that's her now having to become a normal chase killer at the shack of doom where if she phases I'll be impossible to get cause I'm now over a window of they think to do that, spine chill has alerted me so on her appearance she looks at me on the other side, spine chill is basically the main thing here, it does it all, and due to it helping in chase and Vs the undetectable status, it's almost a must have perk, I use it always for the early warnings, I'll put my top killers based on my win to loss as survivor in my next comment and a short reason with from all rank 6-3 matches
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Freddy (he can get so much time it forces people to play differently cause gen rush is near impossible or forces you to fail a skill check alerting your position, or waste time going to the alarm clock)
Myers (a good Myers loses 2 gens but can wipe a team shortly afterwards especially with the tuft of blonde hair)
Wraith (sonic the hedgehog got nothing on his speed, and he can see you very clearly)
Cannibal (insidious can be a ######### to deal with, and I lost my whole team cause of it, and my luck with hatch spawns are terrible and is hit 5 seconds when it's available)
Hag (even at red ranks I get people with the IQ of a tooth brush, seriously, why are you running? Why are you running? They don't at hooks but gens they do, why?)
Trapper (not normally losing to him but, 4 am he is the worst to go against, cause you are semi looking but unlike the hag where urban evasion will just nullify her usefulness in searching for people, you'll still get caught, but any other time he a joke)
Legion (the start of a chase can be quite quick and delay gens, if done right, don't use deep wound for the chance of a free dying state, use it as s free 10 seconds of peace while you chase the last one you hit, it's small but can make the difference, and no perk gonna help you with that)
Hill Billy (only due to how rare I see the add ons that help him turn do I rarely see him win, in my games, he can charge quick but you just turn if he on you, and no vault or anything nearby then yeah he gets you but, that's only gonna happen when from some gens or you're stupid)
Huntress (you want a real pallet and window killer, here, she is useless any other time and forces you to pick your vaults carefully, otherwise you die)
Pig (with spine chill it helps but if done right, ambush can end a chase very quickly even with it)
Ghost face (spine chill GG too EZ but I did make one mistake which cost me the game, I was never a cocky toxic survivor since that day)
The rest are too easy to beat and I'm yet to lose too
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I run spine chill and can counter both. If you find it easy then you just aren’t facing good ones. You won’t convince me otherwise here.
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well imho nurse is still first in a balanced map, Demogorgon way underrated, people just need to give him time, because he has a skillcap, Hag is exploitable as someone said, for the Clown, with the right build he is a solid mid tier.. i agree about the rest though
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Or maybe you ain't good or took the time to learn the OP counter she has, like most other survivors, your pick cause I've watched streamers when the top ones and I'm laughing at how crap they are over the easiest thing and I'm shouting at them to stop being a ######### I can see she is almost on you and hear it too, these streamers only seem to be good over the ones they cried about before or was already quite weak to do so, I'd stream and show you all how it's done, but I'm poor and can't afford that good of stuff, one day if things get better, I will, cause I've been dying to do it cause they all irritate me at the noob moves they do at red ranks FFS
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Lol k den, cause you can't just back track to a charging up nurse near the end of the charge or slow vault back to the other side when spirit is running around or back track to a spirit in phase to lose them almost instantly, if you say so bud
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I said that I can counter her. You really seem to think that you’re better at the game than people who have been playing 8+ hours a day since 2016. Neither are easy to counter if they’re good, you can definitely counter them but it isn’t easy.
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This comment proves my point.
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I dunno.
Is Clown that bad? My Fiance mains him and does pretty good every match. Hmm...
Also Legion placement seems... high. Same with Wraith. But eh.
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Actually, OoO is now great even against Nurse, because if she doesn't have recharge time and/or range add-ons, you can use OoO to see when she's coming and literally outrun her blinks, making her waste a lot of time if she tries to catch up to you.
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I feel that every character (except Clown tbh) has a build that can ascend them to crazy levels, take Bubba for example. The “Bubba Train” build popularized by Otzdarva really boosts Bubba’s pressure and lethality immensely because of his resourcefulness with PWYF and anti tunneling nature of Furtive Chase,
or a injure build on Legion that relies on making full heals take super long and relying on the informational value of Legion’s kit.
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You CAN counter a Nurse or a Spirit. It’s just a lot harder. If they are good then you die. Playing against a Rank 14 Nurse is massively different than one that has thousands of hours solely on Nurse at Rank 1. There is a reason Nurse is regarded as one of...if not THE strongest killer in the game.
Back tracking against Nurse will not always work. She has a second blink ya know.
Don’t even try to play a pallet against a good Spirit. If she can hear your movements/injured moans then you will die. Slow vaulting a pallet against a Spirit will just get you a katana in the face. All she’s gotta do is stand still.
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The thing is...Nurse doesn’t care if you see her or not. She’s so strong in a chase that if you allow her to get too close to you then she won’t have an issue catching you.
Plus most decent killers ignore OoO users. Spirit and Nurse just don’t care. They don’t have anything to lose by you knowing where they are. They don’t place traps. They don’t throw long range hatchets. They aren’t weak in a chase. They aren’t stealth killers. Them knowing where you are is a disadvantage to you because you’re feeding information to the two strongest killers that have the upper hand in a chase.
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Clown doesn’t have any crazy good builds but Redheads Pinky Finger is pretty good. Gives you free instadowns. Flask of Bleach also isn’t bad either.
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One thing I've learned is tier lists are mostly bullshit (but they do have some truth to it) any killer is viable if you truly want to play them. You could be using the nurse and be really good with her and still lose some matches. Just like Leatherface. I feel red ranks are highly over-exaggerated. In low ranks and in high ranks there is always going to be that good survivor like how there will always be that potato that you may wonder how they got into red ranks. I have been a red rank bubba main and he is low on many tier lists and I have been red rank hillbilly main and he is high on a lot of tier lists and all I got to say is play who you want and not what some tier list deems as a good killer. If you think wraith going invisible is a cool concept and you really like that play him all you want. You could get into the red ranks and be a good killer and if you like how the nurse could pretty much teleport anywhere then play her.
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But you didn't understand what I said. You can now outrun her blinks very easily with OoO. It doesn't matter if she can ignore all survivors defenses ( which btw is not even true anymore, I seen so many dead zones lately, playing her on Haddonfield is hell ), when she can't catch up to you after 20-30 seconds have passed.
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idk who Otzdarva is, but that build has been around since Ghostface came out.
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A smart player would ignore the OoO player. They want to be chased. Why give into what they want?
Nurse has nothing to lose but you knowing where she is. She’s gonna eventually catch you if she wants to. She can cover 32 meters with her blinks which you can’t see her within her terror radius. Especially with recharge add-ons.
She’s not as strong as she was, but still damn strong.
Playing any killer on Haddonfield is hell. This is not anything new. Haddonfield is terrible.
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Clown isn’t necessarily bad. He just isn’t as good as the other killers (IMO). I think Legion is above LF, Clown and Doc because of their pressure and game stalling, even if they can struggle with a first down. Wraith is quite underrated actually. His hit and run technique is what I use and it works quite well. His ability to body block certain loops helps as well.
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Too bad Legion doesn't have any pressure or game stall.
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Weird takeaway from all of this. I’m just comparing who is stronger between them all and in no way saying who people should play. Heck, I play every killer rank one and do fine. I base a tier list off Red Ranks because that’s where the best play. That’s a fact.
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They do have some lol. It’s just weaker than a lot of others. For how much I hate their power, it does have positives. But I do think it’s fair to consider them the worst based off the fact that the 3 below them have their positives as well.
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Clown is NOT d tier
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So what is he? Can you explain?
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He is b tier. His bottles are effective at stopping loops, and the effects they can have with addons are too good not to be at least b tier
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If that’s the case... who is worse? Because not everyone can be B tier and above. Clown can only pressure one survivor at a time. It’s a 4v1. And if a survivor knows how to loop, Clown is going to have a longer chase which usually means 2 or even 3 gens get done. At that point the game is almost over. Point is, you can’t have long chases with Clown. You just can’t afford the time because the other 3 survivors are doing gens.
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