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As always, overkill nerf
Behavior has no idea when to stop with the nerfs, it takes them 1 month for a nerf but 2 years for a buff,
And when they buff it's something really small, but when they nerf it's massive, every single time, first it was legion, then it was nurse, and now it's spirit,
Collission removal, ok, fine!
Vault animation, PAIN IN THE ASS!!!! but fair i guess since every other killer has one, but still a pain in the ass.
Activation add-on, just being a pain in the ass, why nerf these? just why?
The Yakuyoke Amulet, freaking why? 3.5 seconds extra for loosing 15% speed? that's an overkill nerf, what the hell are you thinking? it could have been 3 commons in 1 instead of 2 uncommons, why the overkill?
The wakizashi and the tsuba , why nerf the tsuba? yea sure the wakizashi needed one i agree, but not the tsuba.
you need to stop doing overkill nerfs, look at the nurse now, for sure it doesn't affect the spirit base kit that much, but some changes are really annoying when they weren't an issue.
I really start to feel like you only want we hate you, why you do so much to make us hate you behavior? you don't seem to know how to balance your own game, you take so much and give so little, maybe play more than 5 hours a month to your game and maybe you could balance it better.
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Spirit is like all there is at red ranks, besides that sometimes it’s Ghostface. Even Billy is rare.
I feel bad for console survivors who are gonna have a fun time waiting an hour to play a 10 minute game. As if the queue’s aren’t bad enough already.
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killer mains, because we matter as well, without us, you have no games
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I play legion in red ranks, I don't care about spirit.
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we all have our own opinions.
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speak for yourself
I really start to feel like you only want we hate you, why you do so much to make us hate you behavior? you don't seem to know how to balance your own game, you take so much and give so little, maybe play more than 5 hours a month to your game and maybe you could balance it better.
lmao you have a spirit as your icon, youre biased, accept that and you'll realize that they should NOT listen to a word you say
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Nothing new my man, they nerf killers, they make them unfun, players will stop playing killer and then killers will get some buffs.
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I'm sorry but that's the perfect example of a mentality that needs to stop.
You wouldn't have your pretty little killer to play as if it weren't for survivor players. If I were to be a developer and read what you just wrote I'd be extremely offended and disappointed.
Stop trying to act like you're the only part of the game that matter, that's so rude.
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I think they went very easy on the nerfs IF these are the real nerfs and they arent hiding the bigger ones, im still skeptical. This wont stop her "overperformance" at all, but if survivors are happy with it then who am i to rain on their parade?
Spirit is one of my main killers and this wont change her at all, i only vault when i have to not for mind games, i never use the collision feature (in fact running into a survivor mid phase messes me up more often than not) and i rarely use addons in the first place.
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we all have our part in the game, i never said we are the only one that matters, but favoring one side isn't good either
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it won'T killer her like the nurse one did that's for sure, but it's still annoying to see nerfs that weren't needed at all
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Thats true, seeing nerfs is annoying but i was expecting so much more, so when i read what they have in plan "Thats it?" was my thought. It wont affect my playstyle at all and if these "nerfs" will get survivors to stop spamming Spirit nerf threads and get the devs to move off of Spirit then im all for it.
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got a point tho
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Agree
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really OP things have to be changed, spirit herself isn't op, she require a different kind of play style to counter her,m yes some of her add-ons are, wakizashi is a good exemple, tho personally prayer beeds never bothered me and i barely ever use it, MoM was breaking the game, insta heal were OP simply because it would just deny the whole chase, D strike never got nerfed, GF got nerfed but i found a good way to play him and get 4K 80% of the time, doctor changes are great news, he BADLY need a boost, infinites would have simply killed the game if they weren't removed, took them 2 years for freddy.
some were great and some were bad, they don't always make good decisions, people are also pissed about the exclusive skin thing
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I didn't mind the changes honestly, but I didn't need addons for her since quite awhile ago.
The amulet, charge speed, and vault animation came as a bit of a shock though.
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Regarding the Katana Tsuba and Wakizashi Saya, it's not just a shot in the dark. We make sure to do our research first, and these were definitely too strong (especially when combined). This clip alone shows why way better than I could ever explain: https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/dwendd/a_well_deserved_nerf/
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I'm really enjoying all the crying
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To be fair you guys have a history of compounding these things till it's way overdone..so far this looks good but I do agree it seems you just took a hard swing at the addons..but it remains to be seen how much
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10minutes? that is being generous, with how quick gens can go I would say more likely a 5 min game
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glad those are being Nerfed ridiculous add on combo
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That doesn't really show anything because the extra lunge at most saved the spirit 5 seconds. It looks flashy but it didn't actually make a lick of difference to how that interaction would have ended. And really, what was David expecting as he runs out in the open against a spirit? It shows the "lunge" range is extremely long, but there was no addon variation of that interaction where David doesn't go down. Speed addons would do the same, as well as duration. You seemingly pulled things out of a hat to nerf because a fraction of the community was crying about a new OP just as you nerfed the previous best killer.
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You do "research" sure what a joke
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LMAO not even close to "overkill". Spirit is my main Killer and these changes are fine.
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Trapper and wraith cubes were a joke. Now they are even more addon reliant lol
Them buffing a killer prerelease hardly counts as a buff.
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BEhavior: *releases small tweak to spirit to give her some counter-play and make two of her addons not busted*
Bad Killer Mains: OMG HOW COULD YOU NURF HER LIKE THIS SHE’S LITERALLY F TIER NURF TOO MUCH LITERALLY AS BAD AS LEGION AND METTLE OF MAN NURF!?!3)3hruru)4$!4!4$
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This forum is beyond embarassing lol
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Ghostface all day baby!!! Forget you spirit.
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killer mains will move onto another killer if they feel that spirit is weak. Survivors got instaheals nerfed but we haven’t quit. We just adapt and move on instead of quitting
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Exactly, the majority of people complaining are killer mains that don’t want to actually learn and use some skill when using true spirit. They want easy chases which is understandable but it’s time to actually use some skill and allow mind games to become more apparent when versing there spirit.
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Purple instaheal wasn't really a nerf, pink was actually busted and deserved it. It's almost like survs only lose really game breaking stuff.
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Honestly other then the vault animation which makes me sad. I feel she will remain mostly unchanged for me. I stopped using addons a long time ago and I never was bothered by the collision.
On the other hand I feel new or bad Spirits will suffer immensely from this. This might be the intended result to force a lot of people out of Spirit and into other killers.
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What I don't get is why BHVR is so worried about nerfs when so, so many killers need buffs to be more competitive. Map Design needs reworks so there aren't infinites and so many appelts, as well as lowering the size on many maps.Make it so survivor and killer hitboxes are the same size again so looping isn't nearly as effective against killers.
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I am a fair killer main on PS4. I am done with DBD until they stop nerfing killers. Hope you survivor mains enjoy your 10+ minute queues. I main Freddy, ghostface and Spirit.
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Definately too much of a nerf
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Always complaing spirit will still be strong just more skillful to play now. Many said the same with nurses and yet still 4k with her. All those two need is some tweaks for add-ons that's it.
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Dude spirit was op, that's it. They said statistically too many games with spirit don't end well for survivors. A nerf is required and necessary.
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The problem with this comes down to how killers rank up vs BHVR's expectations. BHVR wants a killer to get two kills, and for two survivors to escape on average. The problem is too pip as a killer requires at least 3 kills for the most part, and sometimes 4 depending on the speed of the game (and sometimes not even then). If they want me to think killers should be at this level of expectation, they need to change how ranking up works for killers.
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The tsuba was literally a .05 second nerf how are u complaining
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From what I've heard though, a 2K gets you a black pip, right? Doesn't that mean you're at the correct rank if you're getting steady 2Ks (and in turn black pips?)
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Don't lump me in with your hyperbolic ass as a "fellow killer main"! There is no hive mind, bud.
I didn't want Spirit changed, personally, but what she got is NOT that big of a deal! Her basekit was hardly even scratched and ultimately this is the best middle ground we could have gotten.
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Exactly, which is why everyone on the forums is complaining.
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I actually had to hold back my laughter so I dont wake everyone in the house up.
A truer sentence has never been uttered.
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This is possibly the most reasonable nerf in a long time. If anything, she got undernerfed as there's still no real counterplay to a pair of headphones while you have to simply guess.
It's my opinion she may receive more nerfing in the future, but at the moment they don't want to Legion her by nerfing every possible aspect at once, then question why the killer has become crap.
The only thing GOOD Spirits really lost was Prayer Beads, and the ease of never having to decide which stat to buff because Yakuyoke did everything.
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Survivors only get game breaking stuff nerfed, Spirit wasn't nearly as bad as a syringe, or especially 2+ syringe.
Also, styptic is buffed. Insta down killers? Lmao get gamered on.
The styptic gives plenty of time to make a pallet too.
Killers do adapt, but often get unnecessary nerfs. Like Nurse.
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As spirit main I dont think that this is overkill but it is annoying that so many addons are nerfed at the same time. The amulette is still has its usage but the tsuba and wakisachi are rip especially with the basekit nerf of the sprint boost after phasewalk. You surely can use them but the other green addons like duration, speed or recovary speed are way stronger compared to that.
So what I think is, the changes are decent but you will see every spirit running around with the same addon build now. No one will use silent, wakisachi, bloody hair brush, only duration and movementspeed or duration plus recovary speed.
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The changes actually seem adequate. After the Nurse nerf I expected a lot worse.
Have to test her in the PTB to be sure, but from what I read it's actually good - removes some annoying ######### on survivor side and doesn't add any annoying ######### on killer side (unlike Nurse) or turn Spirit into a generic M1 killer (unlike Legion)
I really hope that those are all the changes.
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Tremendously true. If anything, Spirit got trimmed down to the playstyle people ACTUALLY play her as. While yes, it is a nerf, they're nerfs in areas that were basically unneeded.
IE, when people's biggest complaint is the fact that they're adding a vaulting animation to her, you know not much changed.
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I know that you would like to get killers in the game that can end match in few seconds but not anymore. If you want to win the game, try harder! Nurse is fine now, her blinks only are strange on dedicated servers. Legion is good too.
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Adapt?, the past says something completely different from what you're saying but you know...
The thing is: i'm not upset by the nerf, (personally wasn't needed), they made nurse UNFUN, spirit will be UNFUN to play AS.
See the problem ?
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She is still easily S tier but people are still crying for no reason. If you think she is actually useless now, there is something wrong with you guys.
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