The release of killer statistics showed glaring problems in group think and balance.

You're absolutely right. That's right nowhere in my argument did I say "these statistics are everything". I did make an argument how many perks for survivor are trash tier, progress bar simulator doesn't need to be increase, and how freddy's fake pallets are a terrible mechanic and need to be removed.

But when it comes to raw data and kill rates, you can't in good faith say that this game is survivor sided. How do you even make an argument that the game is survivor sided when there is a kill rate of 75 percent in game? If you're going to make that argument, then you have to somehow make that argument not using escape/kill ratio.

You're coming to the conclusion that the data is flawed based on your own anecdotal evidence. I'm not going to put words in "penits" mouth, but the raw data shows that the kill ratio would make the game killer sided. When I think "killer sided", I think "how many kills on average did the killer have". You can say "well that doesn't mean everything. Maybe such and such a perk is broken", but that still doesn't fundamentally change the reality that the kill rate for most killers is above 70 percent. This data also does not include DC's, so this is data based on tens of thousands of games most likely.

If you're reading research and you see that there is a patient mortality rate of around 75 percent at the four year mark, you could research why that ratio is so high, but it doesn't fundamentally change that there is still a mortality rate of 75 percent at four years. The only thing that could fundamentally change something like that is potential intervention .

Survivors have gotten mostly meme perks over the last 16 months with constant nerfs. I don't know how you could think 16 months ago when the kill ratio was above 50 percent, that constant nerfs to survivor and buffs to killers wouldn't increase the kill rate.

Looping with pallets is one of the only few defenses in the game. Survivor perks are now mostly nerfed to ground. Survivors live and die based on map design. If you take out all pallets and loops, every killer would have a 100 percent kill rate, regardless of skill.

No. And that's where interpretation of statistics would come in. Clown is fine, although I can't stand exhaustion bottles since exhaustion has already been nerfed into the ground and dead hard doesn't work most of the time because of dedicated servers.

With that said, you could still say "Clown is still favored against survivors at red ranks.". Which would be 100 percent true. You can't make the argument that survivor are favored against clown at this rank, generally speaking. Which seems to be the constant battlecry -that this game is survivor sided. Which facts dictate that's just not true.

Thank you for asking.

I would do rotating events where you have a separate queue. 2 killers vs 8 survivors. Some type of event based around basement.

I would never release another perk that increases the gen time or progress bar simulator for this game. We already have enough to stare at.

I would remove the wallhack aspect of BBQ and Chili.

Billy's chainsaw has a cool down attached to it. So he can't constantly reee reee everywhere. You have to make a tactical decision when to use it.

I would remove legion.

I would decrease head on windup time from 3 seconds to 2 seconds

I would combine kindred/we're going to live forever or kindred/borrowed time.

I would increase density and objects of many dead areas in maps, so there are more opportunities for stealth.

I would remove fake pallets from the game.

I would double the cool-down of freddies teleportation.

That's it. That's what I would do.

This is a huge problem and I 100 percent agree with you. I rarely play anymore, but when I do, I just skip after game chat. There is very high toxicity in the game, but that's more the human condition than it is the game. I think there is only so much you can do to tamp down on it, but you see that in every game. Where I think DbD stands out is that you have a very prevalent "Us vs Them" mentality. You almost have two separate communities in DbD - killer and survivor.

You also have a very vocal active killer community that started when Marth 88 did his experiment. So you have people that just absolutely hate survivor. You then have extremism where anything less than 4k is not good enough, which then pushes the overton window further and further, where someone saying "I think the game is not killer sided" is met with huge backlash because the reality that has been created in a forum is not the reality of the game. The overton window being pushed also makes it seem where someone still saying something less extreme about the balance of the game, makes that person seem like a moderate.

I honestly think that it would be near impossible to find a target such as 50 percent kill ratio and then try to hit that, without some major problems that are also introduced. The game is asymmetrical, which means that by it's very nature, there are going to be mechanics in the game that counteract your skill, which leads to frustration for both sides.

However, I just think they went too far with the survivor nerfs and killer buffs. For me, personally, they made it where the game is not much fun with survivor. It feels like progress bar simulator, just waiting to go for a run and then get insta-downed or cheap shotted.

I really wouldn't care if that kill ratio was 100 percent, just as long as what was going on to get that 100 percent kill ratio was fun and interactive. I no longer think they look at both sides of the coin, they've pushed it too far to the killer side and sacrificed alot of fun on the survivor side. I just wish they made survivor more fun to play.