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So is this a thing now? (avoiding the new ban system)
I've just played a couple games and everytime I slug for the 4k (which I've started doing today as I'm sick of people acting like crazy apes if they manage to escape via the hatch or gate even though they only repaired 1 gen or even no gen at all) the 3rd survivor "disconnects without the sound notification" to give the 4th survivor a chance to get the hatch/gate.
Does that mean they're literally pulling the cord so they can DC without getting temp-banned?
It happened multiple matches in a row so I doubt they always got "force dc'd". Also that doesn't really happen a lot on console since we (luckily) don't have to deal with dedicated servers.
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If the sound of didn’t go off, it meant that they didn’t just quit the match. Either the server messed up, they pulled their internet cord, or their internet went out.
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Oh ok thank you for the clarification @Bassador @Sairek @NoOneImportant
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So youre really complaining that people are outdoing game mechanics, while you do literally do the same? Iam not saying thats its right do plug out the cable, but you shouldnt be so entitled to get you 4k, cause thats not how the game is designed.
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Slugging for the 4k now is illegal... bruh just because you don't wanna be slugged doesn't mean that is "wrong". Ah and is in the game perk like deersktalker and knock out, so why BHVR would put perks for a game style if it is "wrong"?! never someone more bruh moment than you
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What? Do you think that slugging is an exploit like dc for hatch? Also the game original design got lost years ago, and what does it even means that the game is not designed to 4K?
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Dude if all survivors have been jerkwads the entire game im downing the last guy because why should the last survivor deserve the hatch if they havent even done like any gens? No im gonna find them hook them and then hook the last person because my goal is to get as much kills as possible.
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It works on Switch
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First of all I need a 4k to pip more than most other killers in the game due to the emblem system that punishes me for using my chainsaw. Secondly slugging for the 4k is not against the rules unlike disconnecting to give someone the hatch/gate. I'm literally just playing the game as intended so don't give me that kinda stuff. It's my decision whether I give someone a chance to escape or not and since nobody appreciates friendly killers I will gladly try and 4k every single game. Nothing entitled about that.
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Thats because switch doesnt do p2p from what i remember.
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“It’s my decision if I want them to live or die” but it’s also that person decision to dc and give the other guy the hatch. No matter what dcing will always be around even when the dc punishments gets implemented it’s always going to be there.
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I don't care whether you "feel for me" or not. Disconnecting to give someone the hatch is cheap and an exploit. Slugging is fair and not against any rules. There are numerous perks to counter slugging anyways so there's no reason to cry about it.
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I always down the 3rd and search for the last survivor, sometimes they get up with heals or unbreakable, there's nothing wrong about that. I run unbreakable and got up, opened the door, and escaped this morning. The other guy didn't lmao.
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Slugging for the 4K can be annoying but he is in no way exploiting.
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You can just open the internet menu on console and turn the wifi connection off for a second. Pulling the cord is just a metaphorical way to say it.
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Theres a difference between playing the game in a way others dont agree with, and disconnecting the internet to RUIN the game for others while AVOIDING penalty.
Big difference.
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You can unplug the router. Or, in a more figurative sense, turning off the wifi by putting your computer into aeroplane mode or something still counts as "pulling the cable".
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That's what I'm saying. There's literally perks that counter slugging and they're strong enough to turn death into escapes so I don't accept the "slugging is unfair" attitude.
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Yeet your Internet router.
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Don't make it easy for me to slug you then, because to be 100%, as the killer I am NOT here for your experience. I am here for mine. If I was here for yours I'd be on your team as a survivor with you, and I'm playing to win.
Be mad, I'll live. :>
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You are literally cheating. It's not even optimal so you don't have that excuse either.
He's just playing optimally within the games mechanics.
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What are you talking about? The Killer was using game mechanics to obtain the most points available, the right of every player. People pulling shady practices to rob him of those points, is NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING THE SAME THING.
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I find slugging the third person to be a douchy move and a major time waster I personally never do it, unless I know exactly where the 4th person is. But I have no interest in pipping up either. Dcing is worse.
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I think only because you can use certain mechanics of the game doesnt make it intended or ok. Sure slugging is a strategy and intended also in regards to the perks. But in terms of the endgame I think slugging for 4K is not what the devs wanted. Same for 99% the gates. They wanted to reduce the time of the endgame with the collapse. But with slugging or 99-ing it makes egc kinda unimportant. I would like to see some changes in the egc so we dont have to argue about dc for hatch or slugging for 4k.
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The game is grindy, and the Killer wanting to maximize his BP's to get through the grind is fine. If they need to slug Survivor 3 to get Survivor 4, then so be it.
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If they didn't want us slugging they'd disable it under certain conditions.
Basically, the old argument of "If they didn't want us doing it they wouldn't let us do it."
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I didnt say they dont want us to slug. I meant that I think they didnt want us to slug in the egc for the 4K. Its more of an egc thing than a slugging thing imo
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This will be a shitshow I can feel it. Just waiting the system to start and then their game freeze on you and you gen banned :)
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No no I get you. I'm also saying if they didn't want us to slug they would disable it. Such as EGC they'd probably punish the killer for doing it, or make the survivor die faster, etc. etc.
So far, they've done nothing of the sort. Relatively, I'll continue to slug for my 4ks.
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ah ok. Well all that is pure theory but mby they dont know how to fix egc in terms of that matter.
Im also still slugging for 4K ;)
But I wish they would come up with a nice idea to fix that
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There is a difference from playing the game in a viable strategy, a way to play, which should I remind you is not bannable and not an offense.
vs pulling your internet cord as a whole.
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Why would you say something stupid like that, the survivors can say they are not here for your experience aswell and you don't see why that's the problem, they see dc'ing as a win for the team any way needed and killers see slugging as any way needed that's why none of its ever gonna change
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I didn't say they weren't allowed to play how I disapproved of, did I? Please feel free to quote where I did. In a twist of fate, though, as luck has it, I play Wraith and tunnel people hard until they quit. Or die.
I'm fine with either and find ragequitting hilarious. It means I did it right :>
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Also, to me it absolutely is not a problem for survivors to not cater to me as the killer. They're there for each other, and I'm there to f--- up their day. Straight up. Why would I be nice to them? lol
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Ehh, I'll dc for hatch if the killer has been a major dick in the match such as face camping first hook or hardcore tunnels but never from slugging. 100% agree it's a crappy thing to do and I'm part of the problem but at the same time I just don't care enough to stop. I also don't pull the plug, I just leave since it's quicker and I would be happy to take the future punishment it brings me.
Normally when I dc it's more for memes then anything though and I think I've dced once ever for slugging and that was yesterday because two others dced and I thought it'd be funny to continue the chain.
Normally if the killer slugs, I'll just wait in a corner of the basement and point till death. I don't try for the door or anything else, I just waste as much time as possible to make the match boring for them. Bonus if it's a swf and at least two can hide.
Is it wrong? Yes. Do I do it anyway? Also yes. Probably my favorite thing that happened was a huntress with iri head who slugged, proxy camped the slug till almost death then camped the guy on hook. One person dced before that and me and some random both decided to hide and it took her about 30 minutes or so to find me. I dced to prevent a possible bbq stack and the other guy got hatch. It was beautiful.
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Oh my God slugging for 4k isn't exploiting the game. How can you possibly think slugging for 4k is remotely similar to DCing. Slugging is meant to be a viable strategy in DBD. It's why we have deerstalker and knock out. GTFO if you think slugging should result in DCs because DCing is straight up quitting the game in shame
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Slugging is not equivalent to disconnecting from the game. One is a perfectly legal and valid gameplay mechanic. The other is a bannable offence.
Also, as a survivor main myself, I do not see disconnecting as a win in any way. I see it as selfish, childish and unsportsmanlike. Your opinion is yours alone, please don't generalise as if you speak for all of us.
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I see some "good for them ######### you" no, slugging is completely acceptable, if you do it then leave all to die even when in sight then no, but to get the advantage yes, anyone against it needs to git gud
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Dude; one is a PlayStyle, the other is a Systematic Offense
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there is still no DC punishment. it comes tomorrow (if they can fix the game before).
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I slug sometimes and I have some dc too. Thing is ,unlike OP , I don't feel entitled to have survivors stay and crawl for the rest of the game just so that I could get my e pin bigger with that 4k. I can't understand what's so painful in the last guy getting hatch lol. This is not CSGo or something.
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Or earn the 4k thorough skill? Slugging is not skill by any means it is ego. Stop taking tips from salty pro streamers and just play for the fun.
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To be fair disconnecting, either by hitting escape or by pulling your WiFi cord, is a game mechanic. If the devs didn't want us to do it they wouldn't give us the option. And yes these argument look strikingly similar to the slug arguments. Point is, neither is fun. The better way to play killer to maximize your pipping is to "play with your food". You should know that survivors have two objectives throughout the game, repair and save. If you really want the 4k pip let them save each other so you max your books. With 2 left 1 is on the hook and 1 is on the save. If you find the death hook player then give him a whack and go find the one that isn't on death hook.
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The devs have stated many times in the past that the "Leave Game" button is there for players who are bugged out and have literally no other option, or have to abandon the match because of a real life emergency.
And no, pulling out your router cord is not a game mechanic, because it's not an action the player performs within the game.
If you're going to turn someone's reasoning on its head to prove a point, your own reasoning needs to make sense.
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No reason to be biased about what is fair or not and to be fair the perks that "can" counter slugging really only work once, yeah slugging isn't against the rules but it absolutely should be and here's why, it's taking the game hostage it prevents the person being slugged from playing and it also encourages the other survivor to not be productive or help the person on the ground incase the killer is staying within range of the slug or so they can get hatch, (mind you I'm talking strictly about the last 2 survivors there's nothing wrong with early game slugging as the other survivors can distract/help) and none of this really falls on players persay rather than the overall game itsself alot of changes could happen to fix alot of these issues
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Alright so if slugging is a strategy and dc-ing isn't because it isn't within the game then why was something like rock climbing something that needed to be fixed? There's a lot of things in the game that were considered "exploits" that were fixed, slugging could be next.
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This should be a simple fix since slugging literally makes it so survs cant play the game anymore, either take away hatch and let survs kill them self without dcing or punish slugging if it takes too long so even on a 4k no double pip.
Seriously if your slugging and your good it's not so bad its just the ones that are not take literally forvever should be punished for killing everyones time.. See what I did there? But seriously it is a boring strategy that inflates game time for no purpose other than a few tryhards getting a 4k and maybe a super niche build here or there. But you need to reward the good ones and punish the bads ones because as is there is no downsides for the killer maybe it's diff at red ranks.
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This makes me ferl proud that I'm not an ######### when I play surv.
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Other times i let the last survivor go after hooking the 3rd survivor it just depends on how the survivors play.
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Again: There are perks for and against slugging. If you can't deal with endgame slugging play a different game. People should be grateful that I'm an anti-camp and anti-tunnel Bubba main who plays without NOED and without basement builds. That's OVERLY fair especially for a Bubba.
Instead they're still crying because of endgame slugging. Get used to it, run Unbreakable and/or Tenacity or quit the game. I will always slug for the 4k. No 0% skill-escapes for bad survivors. Either outplay me or get sacrificed. Simple as that.
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Rock climbing was fixed because because it was an exploit... there were certain rocks that the killer couldn't climb or hit the survivor (this is something that should never be in the game) it was also a means to make use of BL when it was in an area that it shouldn't have been able too be used...
Now we go to slugging, slugging has always been intended to be in the game, it's a means of slowing down the game without other perks and even then slugging is only useful against solo players like everything....
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