Marth88 leaves DbD due to game unbalance.

@maximus909 said:
Oh palease!!! I've gone up against some amazing killers that knock off survivors like shooting fish in a barrel. Marth88 just needs to put down the Double Western Cheeseburger when playing DBD killer. Developers just gave all killers a bump.... yet Marth88 still can't win against survivors? He should maybe go back to Friday the 13th.

Could you elaborate on that bump all killers got? Unless 2 killers = all killers.

@thesuicidefox said:
If I had a nickel for every time I heard a really good player say they "quit" playing a game only to come back, I'd be able to pay off my student loans. Happens all the time in eSports, but it never lasts.

People can change their mind. I know some alcoholics which sweared to stay sober...

@thesuicidefox said:

@Tsulan said:

@thesuicidefox said:
If I had a nickel for every time I heard a really good player say they "quit" playing a game only to come back, I'd be able to pay off my student loans. Happens all the time in eSports, but it never lasts.

People can change their mind. I know some alcoholics which sweared to stay sober...

No most players do it for attention TBH. It's always the same thing "game is broken, I'm not playing". 6 months later they show up at a tournament and get top 8. Seen it plenty, and I have been involved in multiple eSport communities and ran tournaments for almost 10 years.

Mhh interesting. I would like to elaborate this, but maybe on another thread. So we don´t derail this one.

SovererignKing said:

Paddy4583 said:

DeadByMemelight said:

Marth has a regular job, so I doubt he'll play a game he doesn't enjoy just for viewers.

Eating is not a regular job

 ^ When you have no good argument against his balance concerns, and simply insult his weight like a petty child. 

@Mesme said:
EVERY game has issue with balance and pushes certain personalities away but sooner or later they do return. However, there are games who don't get better and will kill themselves. Dead by Daylight is "sick" it needs to be treated. It's not dying it's not any of this other stuff it's just a little sick.

DbD drives away the experienced players (killers). Which is not a good thing in the long run.

Master said:

Tsulan said:

@Mesme said:
EVERY game has issue with balance and pushes certain personalities away but sooner or later they do return. However, there are games who don't get better and will kill themselves. Dead by Daylight is "sick" it needs to be treated. It's not dying it's not any of this other stuff it's just a little sick.

DbD drives away the experienced players (killers). Which is not a good thing in the long run.

For the entitled survivors preferring easy wins instead of competition it's a good thing I indeed. Well ... as long as there are coming enough new baby killers to the game...

@maximus909 said:
Oh palease!!! I've gone up against some amazing killers that knock off survivors like shooting fish in a barrel. Marth88 just needs to put down the Double Western Cheeseburger when playing DBD killer. Developers just gave all killers a bump.... yet Marth88 still can't win against survivors? He should maybe go back to Friday the 13th.

Marth88 is a god nurse and won his team a tourny because of it. Has plenty of videos with him dominating with her without perks too why would you think he can't win? (clearly you don't know who he is) He isn't complaining about not being capable of winning at all he is more than capable but that's not even the point. Sit down kid!

@feffrey said:
Master said:

Tsulan said:

@Mesme said:

EVERY game has issue with balance and pushes certain personalities away but sooner or later they do return. However, there are games who don't get better and will kill themselves. Dead by Daylight is "sick" it needs to be treated. It's not dying it's not any of this other stuff it's just a little sick.

DbD drives away the experienced players (killers). Which is not a good thing in the long run.

For the entitled survivors preferring easy wins instead of competition it's a good thing I indeed. Well ... as long as there are coming enough new baby killers to the game...

Rofl What skill does it take to basement camp? And select a Hex that will last 30 seconds lol

I'm tired of these entitled face camping killers who thinks anybody cares what they think.

Tell me when you walk more than 4 meters away from a hooked survivor then we can discuss skill

According to survivor mains, standing 4 meters away from a hooked survivor = face camping.

@Tsulan said:

According to survivor mains, standing 4 meters away from a hooked survivor = face camping.

Semantics doesn't change the fact the killer is still hook camping and I've had a lot of rank matches where the killer face camped me as in he was almost within my character model. So no that's not according to survivor mains that's according to people that regularly face killers that do in fact face camp.

Game is at its best point it has ever been. And it's still going in the right direction. He should stop crying

@RSB said:

@Nick said:
Game is at its best point it has ever been. And it's still going in the right direction. He should stop crying

That nerfing bloodlust to the ground, giving free SB after the hook, or free pallet hits, while not nerfing pallet looping is going to the right direction, you say?

Hey, as long as killers manage to get a kill, it´s totally balanced!
/S

@Tsulan said:

@powerbats said:

@Tsulan said:

According to survivor mains, standing 4 meters away from a hooked survivor = face camping.

Semantics doesn't change the fact the killer is still hook camping and I've had a lot of rank matches where the killer face camped me as in he was almost within my character model. So no that's not according to survivor mains that's according to people that regularly face killers that do in fact face camp.

I find it curious, how survivors insult even after a nice and fair match without camping. But complain about campers, when killers are fed up with all the insults.

So when killers insult survivors after a nice and fair match because they didn't get 4k with camping. But complain when survivors call them out on it after they did it with no gens even being done. See the rampant hypocrisy here, you same killers post the same thing over and over again oh woe is me. You didn't even bother trying to answer my post but yet instead went with the classic logical fallacy argument.

Then several post later we see the same tired drivel and true post from you and some others. Just fing uninstall the game and leave already. Most of the community including a lot of your fellow killers on here are sick and tired of the crybaby attitude.

You lot keep thinking the game will die, it won't and people will adapt just as they do in other regions when there's an imbalance on one side. The reason you won't is because then you'll realize your threats and insuations are meaningless. You're not irreplaceable anymore than anyone else is and people come and go all the time.

But if you stay and follow through on the threat to only play survivor side we'll see what you're really like then. You don't really care about the community because if you did you wouldn't be sitting there calling for strikes constantly (before the mods started nailing ppl). You also wouldn't be threatening to screw over your fellow gamers by only playing 1 side just to ruin their queue times.

So it's time to either put up or shut up and prove you're an adult and actually stop whining about how bad you've got it. I've been playing games since the 70's and the issues this game has are nothing compared to others that've been out there.

Lastly I'm glad the mods are more active here, there's been less whiny rant threads being endlessly spammed, we've got more mod involvement trying to discuss things. If the endless woe is me crap stops we'd probably have even more mod and possibly dev involvement. Since right now why would they come on here and discuss things only to be endlessly insulted by the same few spewing the same stuff repeatedly?

@powerbats said:

@Tsulan said:

@powerbats said:

@Tsulan said:

According to survivor mains, standing 4 meters away from a hooked survivor = face camping.

Semantics doesn't change the fact the killer is still hook camping and I've had a lot of rank matches where the killer face camped me as in he was almost within my character model. So no that's not according to survivor mains that's according to people that regularly face killers that do in fact face camp.

I find it curious, how survivors insult even after a nice and fair match without camping. But complain about campers, when killers are fed up with all the insults.

So when killers insult survivors after a nice and fair match because they didn't get 4k with camping. But complain when survivors call them out on it after they did it with no gens even being done. See the rampant hypocrisy here, you same killers post the same thing over and over again oh woe is me. You didn't even bother trying to answer my post but yet instead went with the classic logical fallacy argument.

Then several post later we see the same tired drivel and true post from you and some others. Just fing uninstall the game and leave already. Most of the community including a lot of your fellow killers on here are sick and tired of the crybaby attitude.

You lot keep thinking the game will die, it won't and people will adapt just as they do in other regions when there's an imbalance on one side. The reason you won't is because then you'll realize your threats and insuations are meaningless. You're not irreplaceable anymore than anyone else is and people come and go all the time.

But if you stay and follow through on the threat to only play survivor side we'll see what you're really like then. You don't really care about the community because if you did you wouldn't be sitting there calling for strikes constantly (before the mods started nailing ppl). You also wouldn't be threatening to screw over your fellow gamers by only playing 1 side just to ruin their queue times.

So it's time to either put up or shut up and prove you're an adult and actually stop whining about how bad you've got it. I've been playing games since the 70's and the issues this game has are nothing compared to others that've been out there.

Lastly I'm glad the mods are more active here, there's been less whiny rant threads being endlessly spammed, we've got more mod involvement trying to discuss things. If the endless woe is me crap stops we'd probably have even more mod and possibly dev involvement. Since right now why would they come on here and discuss things only to be endlessly insulted by the same few spewing the same stuff repeatedly?

I play both killer and survivor equally. I rarely encounter a killer who insults (i can count the times on 1 hand). But i really often find survivors who insult the killer and their fellow teammates. If you constantly encounter killers which insult you, it might be a YOU problem. But who am i to judge?

Please stop telling people to uninstall the game. This isn´t productive at all. And only makes those people leave, which aren´t really toxic. The trolls and toxic people won´t leave, because this is their playground.

I never called for strikes. Maybe you confuse me with someone else. But i sure as hell said, i´m gonna play survivor only for X reasons. Is this a crime? If it is, i´ve never been warned on this forum by the mods.

To come back to the "nice and fair match" i just had a gen rush match. Survivors had all 5 gens done in less than 4 minutes. I didn´t camp or tunnel and only went for the event hooks. After they opened the gates they didn´t leave and started hiding around the map. This went on for over 20 minutes in which they just trolled me (3xDS). When they finally left they said "eeeeezzzzz" "gg ez" "baby killer".
Yeah, that was a really "nice and fair" match.

Regarding the face camping. Was there anything else to discuss? I NEVER EVER got face camped as survivor. I used to face camp very toxic survivors, when face camping was still a thing. But since hook blocking got removed for killers only (not for survivors, because reasons). I don´t bother at all.
If you keep getting face camped by every killer you meet, there might be a problem on your side.
And judging from your aptitude on this forum, it might have to do something with your temper.
No offense, but it could be simply a YOU problem.

Oh and adults can´t complain about a problem? So just swallow all the ######### and keep going on like nothing happend? That sure will solve the problem...
We are customers and paid for a product and a service. We have every right in the world to complain.

If i missed something, please keep me updated. I´m happy to help you with any problem you might face.

@Tsulan said:

I play both killer and survivor equally. I rarely encounter a killer who insults (i can count the times on 1 hand). But i really often find survivors who insult the killer and their fellow teammates. If you constantly encounter killers which insult you, it might be a YOU problem. But who am i to judge?

I never anywhere said I constantly encounter killers which insult me but nice deflection just as i stated you'd do. So that'd mean I'm the problem here at all but you that keeps trying the logical fallacies. It's also a logical fact that since there's more survivors in a lobby then killers you'd get more chances of having a toxic survivor.

Please stop telling people to uninstall the game. This isn´t productive at all. And only makes those people leave, which aren´t really toxic. The trolls and toxic people won´t leave, because this is their playground.

I'm telling you and the other killers calling for strikes or insinuating it to uninstall the game and prove you're not going to play. I'm asking for those like several on here that've said they'll purposely play only survivor to screw over the rest of the community out of spite. The toxic ones are the ones claiming for strikes and or insinuating it and saying they'll screw the rest of the community over by doing the above. So that means that some of the good killers you speak of are in fact toxic.

I never called for strikes. Maybe you confuse me with someone else. But i sure as hell said, i´m gonna play survivor only for X reasons. Is this a crime? If it is, i´ve never been warned on this forum by the mods.

**I'm specifically referring to those who you keep saying good job, agree with and upvote them everytime they say that. There's one in this very forum and never once have you or anyone of the rest of you called them out on it. Also if you're only going to play survivor just to screw people over with longer queue times you're no different than the rest of the people calling for strikes.

Also whether you were warned or not is besides the point, the message got through loud and clear to stop calling for strikes. That was my point so now it's insulations of a strike or that killers are going to leave etc.**

To come back to the "nice and fair match" i just had a gen rush match. Survivors had all 5 gens done in less than 4 minutes. I didn´t camp or tunnel and only went for the event hooks. After they opened the gates they didn´t leave and started hiding around the map. This went on for over 20 minutes in which they just trolled me (3xDS). When they finally left they said "eeeeezzzzz" "gg ez" "baby killer".
Yeah, that was a really "nice and fair" match.

So how often does that happen? Do you just magically always seem to get those types of matches so wouldn't that make you the problem as you said to me? I can count on 1 hand the amount f times it's happened to me. It's common sense that you'll get those types of matches and there's jerks in every community.

**You're also forgetting that every time there's an event the toxic jerks come out of the woodwork. Throw in FTP and it gets that much more worse. Have you already forgotten how bad it was during the double BP event last month during FTP? **

Regarding the face camping. Was there anything else to discuss? I NEVER EVER got face camped as survivor. I used to face camp very toxic survivors, when face camping was still a thing. But since hook blocking got removed for killers only (not for survivors, because reasons). I don´t bother at all.
If you keep getting face camped by every killer you meet, there might be a problem on your side.
And judging from your aptitude on this forum, it might have to do something with your temper.
No offense, but it could be simply a YOU problem.

**Again with the deflections and distortions it's obvious you can't rebut my arguments and again go for the classic Logical Fallacy. I also find it hard to believe you've never ever been face camped once since everyone has been at least one. I also never ever said I always get facecamped but yet again the distortions of what I said continue.

So that'd mean I don't always get facecamped by every killer I meet since I've made plenty of friends with killers post game. I've been given props for being cool and been thanked for giving myself up for hooks to the killer. Ah yes the classic troll response I've come to expect more insults My aptitude is fine and I don't have anger issues but you seem to want to project badly.

But then it'd mean I'm not the problem but your incessant need to insult anyone that disagrees with you or points out flaws in your posts.**

Oh and adults can´t complain about a problem? So just swallow all the ######### and keep going on like nothing happend? That sure will solve the problem...
We are customers and paid for a product and a service. We have every right in the world to complain.

If i missed something, please keep me updated. I´m happy to help you with any problem you might face.

Yes adults can complain about a problem but adults also don't throw out the non stop insults at those that disagree like you and the rest seem to do in almost every post. I agree with the right to complain but where I disagree is how you lot choose to complain.

You and the rest always insult survivors as if they're the ones causing the problems. Anyone that posts something you don't like gets blasted as a survivor main, biased or any of the other countless insults. When that doesn't work you try the logical fallacy route and distort what they said.

I agree with the need to buff killers and fix maps and have offered lots of suggestions on how to do things without breaking game balance. I advocated for the self care nerf because i thought it was needed and fair. I like the DS nerf and think they should add to it flashlight immunity for the killer during stun. (I'll explain that in another thread.)

I want them to remove pallets or at least really spread them out, I want more stealthy game play where there's no need for endless looping spots. What I want is a true horror game where killers have the power role but survivors have a chance to get out by playing smartly.

Lastly I'd like to see the insults and distortions and deflections stop just because someone doesn't like what's posted.