@devs Why not make ruin default

You're going to see a dev/mod pop in and claim 'I play regularly without Ruin and do well,' thus, to them, proving their point as to why it's not mandatory.

game is extremely unfriendly to new players, lets make it more unfun for them :) because killers cant handle pressure

but in same case i can tell lets make DS base kit because it will save survs perk slot just to not be tunneled :) (sarcasm btw)

no.

as a killermain i would not like that.

this whole post is build on the premise that "ruin is a necessary perk for all killers", which is just wrong. i never use ruin, unless i literally dont have anything better on that killer.

ruin, in its current state, is incredibly overrated by many players. against good survivors its literally useless, in the wrong spot its literally useless and you, as the killer, usually end up worrying way too much about the totem. ive seen people throw games just to go out of their way to protect the totem. the worst part of the perk is, that, once it has been found, its literally 100% a dead perk. you have to play the entire game with only 3 perks then. thats really just not worth it, not at all.

now, to come back to the main topic and why i would HATE ruin to be basekit:

it would draw too much attention to totems.

in the end, this would mean nothing other than a big middlefinger to all the other, sneaky, totem perks killers have, such as Devour Hope or No One Escapes Death. these wouldnt survive the first minute eigther, as now everyone and their mother would run after totems, in order to get rid of Ruin.

if you want ruin to take effect, use the perk. but you have to live with the consequences that comes with, namely 1 potentially dead perk slot if the totem is discovered.

please dont try to force ruin uppon other players, such as myself, who dont want to use it.

thank you.

Making Ruin base would require a lot of rebalancing in other areas of the killer role, mainly perks.

I don't think the balance team could be bothered, nor that it is competent enough to make such changes to improve the game overall.

It would make high level play more balanced, but it would be at the expense of everyone else's experience. If I was purely a killer main, I'd love that change! But the problem is that players like the friend I often play with despise ruin and have a very hard time dealing with it. Having that be a guarantee in every game would make survivor much less fun to play for most people.

Instead of making ruin basekit I think they should tweak gens progression; remove progression bonus from great skill checks and regress the gen 2% if you hit a good skill check. In my opinion this would make doing the gens more interesting and also not as frustrating as ruin, because it would actually take some skill to finish them in 80 seconds or less.

Same reason Brand new part isn't base. Poor design.

Then they aren't actually good skill checks. They are bad. No, this is terrible.

Or you could fix those big maps. The devs will do none of the above because cosmetics, battle pass, DLCs are more important.

No, they are good. It would be bad if you miss one.

They are good because they don't make the gen explode.

While I don't know if this particular idea is the best one, but less RNG = better game balance. This way newbs would get a chance against Ruin, because sometimes they can't find it the entire game. While skilled survivors won't be able to destroy it in 20 seconds, because they know all the spots where it can spawn. At the end it'll be easier to balance the game. It would also result in a more even balance for different maps.

So, make ruin guaranteed to last for a certain time amount to slow down games against coordinated SWF/high skilled survivors, in return limit it's effect over large amount of time, to give newbs a chance.

Yeah, that's the idea. I'd rather have that than press m1 mindlessly at a gen for 80 seconds, because quite frankly hitting good skill checks doesn't require any skill.

Ruin is too powerful in the low ranks and too easy in the high ranks.