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Are no killers concerned about the upcoming pallet change?

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  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104
    I prefer to play survivor personally, but I do play killer sometimes to break up the monotony of survivor gameplay.

    I'll give the new patch a chance when it comes out, but if it becomes a dreadful experience I guess I will join Master in his "strike".
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    Master said:

    @pauloandrade22 said:

    @Master said:

    @lyric said:
    ZombieGenesis said:

    You lost all credibility at "Killer isn't even hard". Not worth reading the rest.

    Ok so I guess making it to 5 while barely playing killer in a season is sooo hard , sorry I don’t fall into loop games or chase the obsession the whole time only to get d strike , you lost all credibility when you complain about the most recent buff you got while survivors got nerfed, are you that terrible that you still can’t do good after a buff?

    Rank doesnt mean anything sadly. Piping is extremely easy for both sides. Piping as killer only gets hard once you reached high rank
    I managed to get rank 1 survivor in my first month trying btw

    You can win without either killing or surviving. How odd.

    You can blackpip with 4 kills and you can pip without any kill. Yeah its really odd and I dont like it tbh

    The emblems don't have different killers and play styles in mind. They try to force a certain play style, which doesn't go well with every killer.

    Emblems need a rework. Just the same way, they made it easier for survivors to pip.
  • Baphomett
    Baphomett Member Posts: 394
    Concerned?  Yes, definitely.  Ready to start spazzing before I have a chance to see the impact in a PTB?  Nah.
  • Twix
    Twix Member Posts: 235
    I’ll keep standing on the same thing I always say. 
    Killers get shafted because of the soloq experience. Usually more than not your teammates in soloq are complete ######### that get caught within 5 seconds, and that leads to survivor crying. 

    There’s always the exception of course, like an entitled group of swf, but I’d like to think it’s more idiotic teammates making people cry about “killer is op.” 
  • pauloandrade22
    pauloandrade22 Member Posts: 697

    @Boss said:
    I'm not concerned actually.
    I agree this would be more significant than nerfing BL3, as you barely every hit that, but just cause it'd be a bigger change doesn't mean it's something to worry about.
    I found it quite funny (not the laughing kind of funny) that you can hit and get stunned.

    Thing i'm still mostly worried about is how the weaker Killers still suffer from chain-looping: Even if you end them quickly, Survivors can just lead you to the next loop and still take minutes.
    Kiting them away from unused loops is ridiculously hard 50/50 due to map layout.
    And most can loop, so just leaving someone isn't ever a great choice above like rank 12.
    Lots of big buildings are horrible as well. I thought developers didn't want to create safe spots, yet going into the big building of most Coldwind Farm maps is pretty goshdang safe.

    As long as you know how to WASD or left stick + mouse movement or right stick you are only caught because of you or another survivor unless its a nurse/hag/huntress.

  • Sally55
    Sally55 Member Posts: 368
    edited August 2018

    The only thing i'm concerned about is what freddy's rework is going to look like.... I really am not bothered by this as i play the nurse lol.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068
    edited August 2018

    @ZombieGenesis said:
    Killers are used to getting shafted. That's just the straight up truth. Survivors go on about "whiny killers" but what happened when Survivors got a minor nerf to their kit? Massive negative review bombs. And you know what? It worked. They get their way. If you play killer you just have to learn to live with the fact that this is a survivor's game and you're just here for their amusement.

    I already addressed the review bomb in another thread and quite of few of those negative reviews weren't from survivors either. Some were from both sides and were complaints like the following.

    So here's some stats from Steams store page.

    Total reviews as of this writing: 144,753 ** (This was from an earlier post)**

    Total positive reviews: 109,223

    Total negative reviews: 35,530

    To break that down the reveiw bombing total when it started was

    July 25th when it started: 448

    July 26th: 217

    After that it started going back to normal reviews.

    To further break it down a lot of bad reviews were for people complaining about the overall patch changes.

    The overall exhaustion nerfs when they agreed with SB nerfs.

    The players unable to join due to server issues.

    There were several complaints about not having dedicated servers.

    There were complaints from killers that the nerfs didn't go far enough. (amazing how it was review bombed by both sides but you all complain it was survivors only.)

    There's complaints from both sides about the community being toxic.

    There's complaints about the report system from both sides.

    There's complaints about hackers from both sides.

    Now if you look at the reviews from both sides some of them bashing the game have 0.2 hours of playtime while others have lots.

    So there's a 3-1 ratio of good reviews to bad reviews and if you take out the bad reviews because the game doesn't have dedicated servers. The report system isn't working right now, the hackers etc, well then actual bad reviews like the review bombing become a lot rarer.

  • Giche
    Giche Member Posts: 753

    @powerbats said:

    @ZombieGenesis said:
    Killers are used to getting shafted. That's just the straight up truth. Survivors go on about "whiny killers" but what happened when Survivors got a minor nerf to their kit? Massive negative review bombs. And you know what? It worked. They get their way. If you play killer you just have to learn to live with the fact that this is a survivor's game and you're just here for their amusement.

    I already addressed the review bomb in another thread and quite of few of those negative reviews weren't from survivors either. Some were from both sides and were complaints like the following.

    So here's some stats from Steams store page.

    Total reviews as of this writing: 144,753 ** (This was from an earlier post)**

    Total positive reviews: 109,223

    Total negative reviews: 35,530

    To break that down the reveiw bombing total when it started was

    July 25th when it started: 448

    July 26th: 217

    After that it started going back to normal reviews.

    To further break it down a lot of bad reviews were for people complaining about the overall patch changes.

    The overall exhaustion nerfs when they agreed with SB nerfs.

    The players unable to join due to server issues.

    There were several complaints about not having dedicated servers.

    There were complaints from killers that the nerfs didn't go far enough. (amazing how it was review bombed by both sides but you all complain it was survivors only.)

    There's complaints from both sides about the community being toxic.

    There's complaints about the report system from both sides.

    There's complaints about hackers from both sides.

    Now if you look at the reviews from both sides some of them bashing the game have 0.2 hours of playtime while others have lots.


    So there's a 3-1 ratio of good reviews to bad reviews and if you take out the bad reviews because the game doesn't have dedicated servers. The report system isn't working right now, the hackers etc, well then actual bad reviews like the review bombing become a lot rarer.

    When the majority of them was basically " I'm gunna quit !!! Killer OP !!! Baby killeryno can't stand my mad jukes :ppp, they have to whine ,mean, MEAN !!! >:( "

    Can't respect, nor listen to these underadged #########, sorry.

    And if these kind of "people" would leave the game, it would be a good riddance.

    A restreint and elitist bracket of players are way healthier for the game than a vast majority of toxic brats, just sayin'.

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @powerbats said:

    @ZombieGenesis said:
    Killers are used to getting shafted. That's just the straight up truth. Survivors go on about "whiny killers" but what happened when Survivors got a minor nerf to their kit? Massive negative review bombs. And you know what? It worked. They get their way. If you play killer you just have to learn to live with the fact that this is a survivor's game and you're just here for their amusement.

    I already addressed the review bomb in another thread and quite of few of those negative reviews weren't from survivors either. Some were from both sides and were complaints like the following.

    So here's some stats from Steams store page.

    Total reviews as of this writing: 144,753 ** (This was from an earlier post)**

    Total positive reviews: 109,223

    Total negative reviews: 35,530

    To break that down the reveiw bombing total when it started was

    July 25th when it started: 448

    July 26th: 217

    After that it started going back to normal reviews.

    To further break it down a lot of bad reviews were for people complaining about the overall patch changes.

    The overall exhaustion nerfs when they agreed with SB nerfs.

    The players unable to join due to server issues.

    There were several complaints about not having dedicated servers.

    There were complaints from killers that the nerfs didn't go far enough. (amazing how it was review bombed by both sides but you all complain it was survivors only.)

    There's complaints from both sides about the community being toxic.

    There's complaints about the report system from both sides.

    There's complaints about hackers from both sides.

    Now if you look at the reviews from both sides some of them bashing the game have 0.2 hours of playtime while others have lots.


    So there's a 3-1 ratio of good reviews to bad reviews and if you take out the bad reviews because the game doesn't have dedicated servers. The report system isn't working right now, the hackers etc, well then actual bad reviews like the review bombing become a lot rarer.

    You also need to look at other days and negative reviews to understand how much it was bombed by entitled survivors.

    33-29-34 etc. negative reviews per day. General issues like reporting system, hackers, dedicated servers were always there and that 33 negative reviews represent them. I don't think that people just realized all of them in the update and gave a bad review.

    It increased up to 400-500. Most of them were about the exhaustion changes. There might be some complaints from the killers who think that the nerf should be more severe but how many of them do you think were there? 100? 200? or 5-10?

    It was a review bomb. You can say the same thing for killers and you can say that killers review bomb too but It is very disingenuous to ignore the review bomb.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Delfador said:

    You also need to look at other days and negative reviews to understand how much it was bombed by entitled survivors.

    33-29-34 etc. negative reviews per day. General issues like reporting system, hackers, dedicated servers were always there and that 33 negative reviews represent them. I don't think that people just realized all of them in the update and gave a bad review.

    It increased up to 400-500. Most of them were about the exhaustion changes. There might be some complaints from the killers who think that the nerf should be more severe but how many of them do you think were there? 100? 200? or 5-10?

    It was a review bomb. You can say the same thing for killers and you can say that killers review bomb too but It is very disingenuous to ignore the review bomb.

    I didn't ignore the survivor review bomb nor was I being disingenuous but if you look at the reviews posted during the review bomb. It wasn't just survivors and it wasn't just about how the patch was bad etc. There's quite a lot of the killer mains on ehre blasting survivors as a whole for the negative reviews while saying it was only 1 sided.

    They also ignore how quie a few weren't even about the patch itself but those other subjects. One of these times I'll break them down into a nice pie chart.

  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    @ZombieGenesis said:
    Killers are used to getting shafted. That's just the straight up truth. Survivors go on about "whiny killers" but what happened when Survivors got a minor nerf to their kit? Massive negative review bombs. And you know what? It worked. They get their way. If you play killer you just have to learn to live with the fact that this is a survivor's game and you're just here for their amusement.

    The pallet vacuum removal and Exhaustion nerfs were massive, along with the BNP gutting. I almost never see 5 generators repaired now (2 games since both nerfs have hit), and haven't gotten less than a 3K since.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Eninya said:

    @ZombieGenesis said:
    Killers are used to getting shafted. That's just the straight up truth. Survivors go on about "whiny killers" but what happened when Survivors got a minor nerf to their kit? Massive negative review bombs. And you know what? It worked. They get their way. If you play killer you just have to learn to live with the fact that this is a survivor's game and you're just here for their amusement.

    The pallet vacuum removal and Exhaustion nerfs were massive, along with the BNP gutting. I almost never see 5 generators repaired now (2 games since both nerfs have hit), and haven't gotten less than a 3K since.

    What killer do you play? At high rank? If a loopable killer at high rank, please do some tutorials for us plebs :wink:

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  • SnakeSound222
    SnakeSound222 Member Posts: 4,467

    @Tsulan said:

    @lyric said:
    ZombieGenesis said:

    You lost all credibility at "Killer isn't even hard". Not worth reading the rest.

    Ok so I guess making it to 5 while barely playing killer in a season is sooo hard , sorry I don’t fall into loop games or chase the obsession the whole time only to get d strike , you lost all credibility when you complain about the most recent buff you got while survivors got nerfed, are you that terrible that you still can’t do good after a buff?

    Most of the survivors (including myself) haven´t noticed the nerf. Since it only affects a really tiny part of the survivor community.

    I'd say it affects more than a really tiny part of the Survivor community, considering what the next patch is supposed to contain.

  • Vortexas
    Vortexas Member Posts: 757

    Why should we show our concern?

    The Dev's don't listen to killers, and if my some miracle they did Survivor Crybabies would review bomb the game again.

  • Weederick
    Weederick Member Posts: 1,080

    I'm not worried. They're doing the right stuff and its time for some survivorbuffs. It will hopefully come with the DS nerf and then its all gucci

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @ZombieGenesis said:
    Killers are used to getting shafted. That's just the straight up truth. Survivors go on about "whiny killers" but what happened when Survivors got a minor nerf to their kit? Massive negative review bombs. And you know what? It worked. They get their way. If you play killer you just have to learn to live with the fact that this is a survivor's game and you're just here for their amusement.

    I've stopped playing this game as a killer, and encourage everyone to do so, that is all I can do to protest.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @pauloandrade22 said:

    @lyric said:
    ZombieGenesis said:

    You lost all credibility at "Killer isn't even hard". Not worth reading the rest.

    Ok so I guess making it to 5 while barely playing killer in a season is sooo hard , sorry I don’t fall into loop games or chase the obsession the whole time only to get d strike , you lost all credibility when you complain about the most recent buff you got while survivors got nerfed, are you that terrible that you still can’t do good after a buff?

    Wait survivors were nerfed? i never noticed. Still easy to win.

    Yeah, remember that one time in 2 years when survivors were nerfed? Every survivor knows that date.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @SnakeSound222 said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @lyric said:
    ZombieGenesis said:

    You lost all credibility at "Killer isn't even hard". Not worth reading the rest.

    Ok so I guess making it to 5 while barely playing killer in a season is sooo hard , sorry I don’t fall into loop games or chase the obsession the whole time only to get d strike , you lost all credibility when you complain about the most recent buff you got while survivors got nerfed, are you that terrible that you still can’t do good after a buff?

    Most of the survivors (including myself) haven´t noticed the nerf. Since it only affects a really tiny part of the survivor community.

    I'd say it affects more than a really tiny part of the Survivor community, considering what the next patch is supposed to contain.

    I was talking about the "big survivor nerf" patch. Not what´s coming up soon, because survivors review bombed DbD.

  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320

    Makes taking enduring more important.

  • OakLestat
    OakLestat Member Posts: 125

    This will still be way better than the vacuum.

    If they get to the other side of the pallet and drop it on your arm before your hit connects then we should not get the hit.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @OakLestat said:
    This will still be way better than the vacuum.

    If they get to the other side of the pallet and drop it on your arm before your hit connects then we should not get the hit.

    But its ok that the pallet drops literally in front of your eyes and still stuns you?

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    Balance is always 1 step forward and 2 steps back.
    Every year we have ONE patch that favors killer.
    Every other patch is clearly survivorsided.New killer player don't notice that and old ones get tired.