Ruin: Ruined. Who cares?
It’s been 5 minutes and the entire community is crying about Ruin.
Stop being so reliant on perks and stuff like this wouldn’t hurt your heart.
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devour hope gang
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Do you play red rank killer? I have one of the highest kill ratios to time played on Xbox so PLEASE tell me how you manage to slow down the game with your all knowing expertise since you clearly don’t need it.
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Yeah, I do actually. The VAST MAJORITY of my games consist of 1-3 Ranks, the occasional Purples.
Slow the game down? Get better at Map Pressure. Not every game HAS to be a 4K and not every game WILL be a 4K.
I opened a thread last week on me testing not playing with Ruin, I win more games than lose and i rotate between all Killers except:
Cannibal, Demo, Huntress and Nurse.
want a solution starting out without Ruin? Use NoED.
We’ve also been gifted perks such as: Corrupt Intervention which is an immediate slowdown and Thrilling Tremors.
Quit crying about it and learn to adapt. You’re a killer, you have to adapt each game anyways.
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Facts! But here recently it’s been destroyed in T-10 seconds.
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Get better map pressure? So when I decide to play clown and the game loads up Backwater Swamp I’m supposed to high rail it to the gen across the map so I can use PGTW right? Well guess what, by the time I get there, and say I do manage to pop it, the gen on the other side of the map has just popped. Do you think I want to play Spirit, Billy, Nurse EVERY red rank game to apply that kind of map pressure??
if you think Corrupt Intervention is going to slow the game down for you, I’ll tell you what I told the other guy. When you have to cover the last 3 gens spread across the map, lmk how it goes.
When you have optimal survivors, they’re gonna know that they need to keep the gens spread out.
Now you’re asking me to use NOED? Omg okay Red Rank Killer if you say so
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I’ve de-ranked to Purple now because I’ve learned to enjoy the game rather than get pissed about 4k. I still get placed with more Reds than anything. Here’s an example:
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Look at this bad ass that goes perkless every match
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Buddy, you’re just full of whining. I started this season as a Red Rank. You’re upset over Ruin getting nerfed and play in Reds 🤦🏽♂️ Most of the time, Ruin is cleansed within the first 2 minutes or playing an optimal team Gens are still being popped left and right.
Yes, apply better map pressure. Not my fault you chose to play Clown and got placed on Backwater and aren’t playing optimally or think you DESERVE 4 kills just because.
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Thank you, thank you. bows
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I don't use Ruin because I hate hex perks, but I still think it's a terrible change. The reason Ruin is so popular is because it slows down gen repair from the start, which is important to help keep four gens from popping before you find the first survivor.
Ruin's popularity has little to do with the Gatekeeper Emblem. It has to do with being useful in the early game. The devs reworked it and took away the thing that made it popular.
Now, it will only be useful in late game, which hex totems rarely survivor to see. Hell, half the time survivors spawn on top of Ruin and cleanse it before the killer even gets across the map to check on it.
Survivors benefit from this change. Killers don't benefit from it at all, especially not if they don't give a damn about pipping.
I don't use gen slowdown perks because I don't really care if survivors gen rush me and escape in three minutes; if that's their idea of fun, so be it. I don't run add-ons, so any BP I make is profit.
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Nope not the same. Don’t even try it, you don’t play red rank killer and you if a rank 16 on the survivor team is the best you can do it terms of a screenshot, I can tell you don’t do well in higher skill based games.
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First off, I get your point and the reasoning behind Ruin. I didn’t know they were even nerfing it.
Secondly, if four gens pop before you find a survivor... uhh... TERRIBLE map pressure.
Thirdly, if ONE perk ruins a killer then maybe this community isn’t so great at killing like they think. I see plenty of YTers not running Ruin and do just fine.
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This is a prime of example of why Ruin is in a good place now. This was on Hawkins and if I didn’t get have Ruin to regress these toolboxes wha too you think would have happened? You probably have no idea idk why I even ask.
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Lmao so it’s my fault that an SWF team has a new or not as high skilled teammate with them? Also, I de-ranked from literally not overwhelming myself with trying to 4k. Oh, my bad for not screenshotting all my post-game lobbies. I’ll be sure from now on to do it, just for you.
Here’s another; Ruin involved and destroyed immediately and I was new to Freddy. Excuse the 20, he means I’m not good
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The only other screenshot you have is one involving the perk you “don’t need”. Lmao okay I’m done arguing with baby killers.
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Preach
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“Baby killers” can’t argue the point, you just whine. Notice the other perks in that screenshot? Or are you just ignoring me saying the Ruin was destroyed early game?
Running Devour allowed my Ruin to be destroyed early. Thanks to two highlighted totems.
But yes, use an excuse to get out of the discussion. You’re doing nothing but whining which is the point of the post. You relied on ONE perk and now you might not be so capable of holding your precious Red Rank 1. Poor you.
Notice my killer levels and perk levels 🤔
Clearly, I’m more skilled than you at killer if I can play without Ruin and eliminate Reds. While you cry about needing ruin against reds.
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You complain about not wanting to use Nurse to apply “that” kind of map pressure but that’s the Killer screenshot you provide? Hmph
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You don’t have to, your constant low rank survivors screenshots that you prefer to show says enough about what type of killer you are.
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"Stop being so reliant on perks" Ok BT+DS+Deadhard+Adrenaline, tell me more that I shouldn't complain about perks I use being nerfed
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A killer that can eliminate at least 3 Reds each game, without properly taking advantage of Ruin or using it at all?
Lmao your basis on my screenshots is the lowest survivor whom died first. So?
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Yeah, I only run DH and I’m a rank 4 Survivor at the moment.
The only survivor perk I’ve become “reliant” on is Quick and Quiet.
Tell me more.
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"Secondly, if four gens pop before you find a survivor... uhh... TERRIBLE map pressure."
That was hyperbole. Usually, the problem is that three gens pop by the time a killer hooks their first survivor.
And YTers aren't average players; many practically play this like it's their job (for some, it is).
I never said anything about the perk ruining killers. Like I said, I don't use Ruin. I can't speak for those who do use it. But there are reasons it's a popular perk despite how fragile hex perks are, and the rework doesn't respect those reasons.
Whatever. I kinda hope the rework goes through and it frustrates less skilled killers so much that they quit playing. It's not like the game's tutorial teaches killers how to properly apply gen pressure, so rather than trying to "git gud" it's quite likely many will quit. Maybe with no one playing killer the core game mechanics will get reworked. Tunneling, camping, gen rushing, and relying on the hatch are all unhealthy game mechanics that are never going to be addressed unless something drastic happens to the playerbase. But that's completely off topic.
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Yes, but it’s for the guy who thinks Map Pressure isn’t a skill Killers NEED.
Also, from my reading, BHVR didn’t want a 4K game for the killer. They wanted it to be a 2:2.
Plenty of non-YT killers out there that do not run ruin, I’ve seen it more often now than not in Reds as a survivor.
Now, a new breed of Killers will come up and those that relied on it will have to adjust.
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Just because I recognize bad perk design, doesn't mean I use it. FYI. I pretty much only play Trapper and run Corrupt Intervention. The fact is, Corrupt is more power than new!Ruin, yet the latter is still a hex perk. That is bad game design.
And if you think THIS is crying, I really wish you would have been here when Mettle of Man got nerfed. The forums made Iraq look like a vacation spot.
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Lmao @ the last sentence.
This other person is whining.
Killers are still viable without Ruin. I’m not going to apologize if you relied on a PERK to be an effective killer. Even with Ruin against a “gen-rush” SWF I can lose. I’ve proved I can also win against them without it.
Rely on perks and this is what happens.
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Only the survivors are red ranks though. You have to be red ranks too or it doesn't count for some reason.
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Lmfaoooo LOGIC
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For me it's not about the perk. It's the justification the Devs put forward.
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But ....but without ruin you can't 4k every game anymore and that clearly shows DEVs' survivor bias!! /kappa
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how did this one guy just have 800ish bp?
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Crybabies that can’t adapt 😭😭😭😭
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I destroyed him. They hook rushed and I chainsawed the whole area and he was collateral damage. Then he hook suicided.
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Oh ok. Grand example of too easy pipping system for survs.
I wouldnt use it as reference tho
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I remember how much people cried for DS and Balanced Landing nerfs. So I don't see why people can't cry for Ruin nerf.
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They why don't you play perkless and add-onsless? I'm sure your map pressure is great enough to win against sweaty 4 men rank 1 SWF with 4 toolbox and all meta perks
PS: as what you said, stop being so reliant on perks and stuff
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Survivors cried about DS nerf because they die in 70% of the games, that's the official killrate in red ranks. And killers cry about ruin when they win in 70% of the games. It's not even comparable.
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I’m sorry, what? I’m not crying about the perk. I’m winning without Ruin. I’m not perk reliant at all 🤦🏽♂️ But yeah, let’s use the classic, “I’ve got nothing to say so let me turn the debate around on the person making a point”
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or you guys can buy this game:D it needs more players. i heard its more fun then dbd for both sides.
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That just looks bad imo.
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Map placement with insta saw? OMEGALUL You don’t need any perks to 4K with those. Try again.
I told you-you don’t understand what effect Ruin has on the game. Stop creating scenarios in which you’re more likely to win.
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LMFAO THATS THE POINT.
I just bought Leatherface and have already proved his viability. Quit making excuses because I’m using other perks or add ons. That’s my point. YOU DONT NEED RUIN TO WIN.
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Okay you’re the greatest killer against yellow ranks and with insta saw lmao you can stop making your post relevant now it died a long time ago
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No, you’re just ignorant and my point has been proven. You just can’t accept that fact. “Yellow ranks” yet my proofs been posted. You really are a delusional individual.
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A few screen shots don't prove any points. You're only one player. This is anecdotal evidence. And it is much easier for potato survivors to reach red ranks than for killers to rank up. Survivors can carry their teammates. Survivors don't have to escape to pip. Showing a screen that a killer destroyed red rank survivors means nothing without a video of the gameplay to go with it, and even then, it's still anecdotal evidence from one player.
None of it even matters. Equipping a perk isn't expected to be a guaranteed win, not equipping a perk isn't expected to be a guaranteed loss. A lot of killers equipped Ruin so they could have a less stressful game where they weren't so crunched for time. Ruin gave them breathing room. Sure, they might lose anyway, but the match probably still went longer and everyone earned more points than if the killer didn't equip Ruin.
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First: 2 out of the 4 red ranks did not have a DH/SB/BL or any of those!
Second: not a SINGLE one of them had DS!
Third: One of them killed himself or something - sub 1000 points score , so it was 3v1 !
Forth: you have only 18k score so you didn't even rank up from that.
A decent group of green ranks can make your Bubba cry in the corner.
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If the devs would actually fix gen times then people wouldn't need to be.
Also tell that to every single survivor that runs meta perks.
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I have plenty of breathing room without it and haven’t noticed a difference. You all are just crying because you don’t have a guarantee to generator slow which causes you to have to do more. Cry more. It’s anecdotal but my point stands that it’s possible.
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Hmm. I had two people use DS but yeah, make excuses about why you need Ruin. Please. DS doesn’t aid gens.
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