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I did the math on the RBT, proving Amanda needs a buff

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  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    @ChesterTheMolester said:
    Regarding her ambush:
    The best buff would be to simply increase her acceleration to her max speed, this would make SB less consistant and mindgames better.

    This might sound good on paper, but this would instantly make Ambush overpowered. The reason is that you can mind-game at pallets with Ambush (not all of them). Making it faster than Sprint Burst, or faster in general, will cause her to be able to circle pallets from either side more effectively. This is a buff way too much into Pig's favor, as most people without Sprint Burst will be hit when caught off guard. However, now you're just punishing people trying to use their primary defensive mechanic.

    The roar needs to go away, so that low-vantage generators are risky to do against her, so that she can quite literally ambush people. Without the roar, you could realistically still hit people with Sprint Burst that aren't paying attention. The roar also warns people of your attempts to hit them at pallets, too, since most people won't notice the animation from the other side, and the obnoxious chase music almost always drowns out any quiet/medium sound a killer would make from a several meter distance.

    Right now, it's more effective to stealth, and then de-stealth, for hits, since your terror radius returns slowly, whereas the roar warns survivors of your attack before it even finishes the startup.

  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256
    edited August 2018

    F*cking spam filter ate my post again, so here's a shittier version of said post:

    The roar needs to be removed. It warns survivors of her attack before the attack even commences (about halfway through the wind-up). Making Ambush faster will make her too strong at pallets if she can just bolt around the sides every single time you run to one. (A faster miss recovery wouldn't be bad on top of the roar being removed.)

    Currently, it's better to stealth, and then de-stealth, for hits, since your terror radius returns slowly. Ambush's roar just warns survivors before you even round a corner if you sneak up on them.

    At pallets, the roar warning people of what you're doing is the same problem: they can react before you can even attack. You're punished because they hear the roar and run, you're punished if/because you missed, and you're punished twice more if the pallet didn't drop. It's ridiculous how bad Ambush is right now because of that.

    Low-vantage generators should be dangerous against her, but they're not because her stealth mechanics are weak, at best.

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  • chemical_reject
    chemical_reject Member Posts: 940

    The Pig and Michael Myers are the only killers who can actually "kill" survivors with their power so they should be feared.

    How does Myers kill with his powers?
  • ChesterTheMolester
    ChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771

    The Pig and Michael Myers are the only killers who can actually "kill" survivors with their power so they should be feared.

    How does Myers kill with his powers?
    The tombstone addons.
  • Runiver
    Runiver Member Posts: 2,095

    Weird maths.
    Seems like you tend to forget there's a psycho killer able to still hit you as you run over the map, that can prove to be quite a distraction or a time waster.

    Amanda could use some buffs, tho. But I'm not sure these maths prove anything, really.

  • chemical_reject
    chemical_reject Member Posts: 940

    The Pig and Michael Myers are the only killers who can actually "kill" survivors with their power so they should be feared.

    How does Myers kill with his powers?
    The tombstone addons.
    Oh ok. His "power" made me think stalk. I was like what? Lol
  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    @Salty_Pearl said:
    I think they should make RBTs deadlier. I know it's supposed to stall but when the survivor can take it off after searching one box, it really doesn't do much. Besides, The Pig and Michael Myers are the only killers who can actually "kill" survivors with their power so they should be feared.

    They can also have it on their head for a full 2 minutes until they search every box. You can't have it both ways. It needs to be RNG, and sort of pattern you apply to it will be figured out and survivors will just get the first box every time.

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    @Mc_Harty said:

    @Nickenzie said:
    I was thinking about having Rules Set NO. 2 built in to her main kit and have the new Rules Set NO.2 permanently hide Jigsaw auras. Additionally make the first Jigsaw box not have the key so survivors can't instantly get them off. With these two changes, a disabled RBT will be a threat since you can't see the Jigsaw boxes, thus you have to waste time and find them or wait for your timer to activate to see the auras.

    Why it's not part of her base kit, I will never understand.

    Because it can be really strong on the right map. Use that add-on on Lery's and survivors will never get it off before it's active. It forces them to do a gen to make it active. That's really strong.

  • MegChicken
    MegChicken Member Posts: 163
    The traps aren’t doing enough to be a threat, the Pig can’t stall the game down because the traps can be taken down extremely fast, making them less a threat. The RNG aspect is what ruins them. The Pig does need be buffs, because she isn’t good enough.
  • ChraizE
    ChraizE Member Posts: 232

    @chemical_reject said:
    ChesterTheMolester said:


    chemical_reject said:


    Salty_Pearl said:

    The Pig and Michael Myers are the only killers who can actually "kill" survivors with their power so they should be feared.

    How does Myers kill with his powers?

    The tombstone addons.

    Oh ok. His "power" made me think stalk. I was like what? Lol

    I was with you on that one Chemical, an addon is an addon last time I checked.

  • ChesterTheMolester
    ChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771
    ChraizE said:

    @chemical_reject said:
    ChesterTheMolester said:


    chemical_reject said:


    Salty_Pearl said:

    The Pig and Michael Myers are the only killers who can actually "kill" survivors with their power so they should be feared.

    How does Myers kill with his powers?

    The tombstone addons.

    Oh ok. His "power" made me think stalk. I was like what? Lol

    I was with you on that one Chemical, an addon is an addon last time I checked.

    Stalking will lead to EW3 if no mirror is used. Instadown + enhanced lunge + fast vaults does sound like a power made to kill to me and not just a stealth or stalling tool.
  • chemical_reject
    chemical_reject Member Posts: 940
    ChraizE said:

    @chemical_reject said:
    ChesterTheMolester said:


    chemical_reject said:


    Salty_Pearl said:

    The Pig and Michael Myers are the only killers who can actually "kill" survivors with their power so they should be feared.

    How does Myers kill with his powers?

    The tombstone addons.

    Oh ok. His "power" made me think stalk. I was like what? Lol

    I was with you on that one Chemical, an addon is an addon last time I checked.

    Yea. I cant even see calling Amandas head traps her "power" because she has the ambush attack.