Devs: you need to address the real reason people use Ruin

so basically all i can see is people saying they get 4 kills without ruin bet u didnt pip at the high ranks u only safety pipped or u depipped, why because ruin stop gens being rushed so hard but of course thee devs only see the low ranks survivor crying that they cnt hit a skillcheck thats great so of course ruin is so op it has to be nerfed so they can just press m1 and not worry about having actual skill to hit the skillcheck at the right time which of course is now going top open the high ranks sweaty survivors to easily just over power killers now by completeing gens with no penalty because they wont get off the gens and if they do itll be for a few seconds before jumping back on, how about u make it so ruin isnt a hex perek and does higher percentage of regression when not worked on ? so that way gens cnt be done faster when they get off it or even maybe just maybe u make ruin a non hex perk and keep it as it is effecting skillchecks and the low rank survivors learn to ######### press m1 thought ruin and the devs stop sucking low rank survivors ego and balance the game right, if you want your survivors to not do ######### then heres a idea take out killers, stick in a ai bot that wanders around and swings at the air then your precious low rank survivor mains will have nothing to worry about, keep going to kill your game pretty good job so far of doing it

Then you should fix rank. Every time I try killer I'm r20 going against reds

I did answer but of course so play at high ranks in both sides and have done so since 2016.

I have played Trapper, Huntress, Hag and Myers mainly but prefer to rotate and play who I feel so play them all a decent amount.

No I did not agree 😛 Those chickens are practically all survivors at red ranks as its just symbolizing players running around. Most will run to the first gen they see and then run everywhere else. If they walk they probably have SB which doesn't show a good red rank player imo. It's not about the clicky clicky decoy as every killer should know not to chase them. They will chase you around to get attention anyway so of course its best to let them.

The main issue with ruin is good survivors won't bother to destroy it unless it's in plain sight or if they are checking normal spots they know on the way to another gen. They wont go out their way and work through it negating its use entirely. Ruin only helps versus players who cant work through it and need to take the time search for it

If the best players aren't affected then it only helps versus players you shouldnt really need it against.

I personally feel the devs want it changed as its having to much if an impact on the game. They normally dont change something like this until its at the point where its deemed necessary.

Of course killers arent screwed. Hopefully most will adapt that can and wonder why they used ruin at all. I haven't used it since 2017 and have never felt I needed it.

Killer is stressful at times but that is true of most PvP games where you need to play at the top of your game. Solo survivor can also be stressful at times but you can get enough downtime to lessen it in each match.

On the topic of ranking and the emblem system(which is probably off topic on this lost but...) If the dev's ever decide to fix the ranking so people go against people of equal skill, would it be wrong to set everyone back at rank 20 then just let everyone fall into the right place? I don't exactly what would happen and I'm probably wrong but it could filter out everyone despite the couple days of absolute chaos which is small price to pay.

That wouldn't work all that well. Lots of people would get hardstuck at the low ranks, due to people from lots of different skill levels getting matched together.

And then after that week or two is over, we'd have the same issues we did before. I don't see how this change would accomplish anything significant.

Yes, the fact remains Otz is a High rank Killer because he is good. The problem with people is how much they relied on the perk.

Thats because there are problems with maps, gens and some killers.

Some maps are too big for some killers, gens are too fast for some killers, there is no time to prepare with killers that need setup, some killers are too weak and need a crutch perk like ruin to even work, some bad players used ruin to make games easier without effort.

So basically there are many reasons people use ruin, and only the last one can be fixed with ruin nerf. Ruin should be changed, but there are problems with the game itself that ruin nerf will not fix. If devs are going to destroy ruin, then they have to fix all these problems

I realize this is from yesterday, but your matchmaking isn't taking ranks into consideration. I've seen brown ranks come up against red rank killers, and vice versa.

When it was fixed a few months ago, it was correct for roughly about 2 weeks. Then the next update broke it again, and it's not even been addressed in other Dev Diaries or anything.

Honestly saying its because ruin makes skill checks too hard is kinda bs. I assume they have no plans to change unnerving presence or overcharge which also make skill checks hard..

So your saying we should compare all the killers to otz wow are you joking or are you just to tired to think straight?

Gen speed = 80 sec

If killer chase first target in 80 sec = 3 gens are done.

And killer can't eliminate one survival off because of DS with 60sec.

I suggest please bring the old Hex:Ruin back, and nerf it 0/1/2%. I'm find.

And buff "THIS IS NOT HAPPEN" without injuring for new player. This perk is the best for people who have skill check missing problem.

After, you have solution to solve gen speed issue. I would appreciate, if you want to change Hex:Ruin.

remove the black pip and this would be the case. As it is now it is near impossible to derank unless its on purpose.