They're thinking about removing ranking all together

They can't remove ranking though, it's tied to steam achievments

Yes, they should remove the rank system. The advantages are...

1) Lower queue times for both sides.

2) We have frequently multiranking plays already.

3) Ranking does not mean much nowadays. I am a rank 1-2 survivor, sometimes I play horribly, sometimes I play very well.

4) Mixing good and average survivors helps the make the killer experience more balanced. A full team of pro loopers are almost unbeatable.

So, nerf Hex: Ruin "because it hurt new players" (supposedly), then turn around and end the Rank system entirely instead of fixing it and matchmaking... which will only hurt new players.

It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em.

Hadn't they already spoken time and again about reworking Ranks and making rank rewards? Did they not defend not changing specific details in the game, citing the inability to change achievements through specific console(s) (point being, there are achievements tied to ranks, so how could they remove ranks but not fix other parts of the game tied to achievements)? Didn't they just recently discuss overhauling killer ranking to be character-specific, which would in itself be a vast endeavor?

Would like to know more details on exactly what dev supposedly stated this and the context therein, because it feels extremely contradictory to their official position on Ranks. Don't get me wrong, it would follow in-line perfectly with many other bad decisions on their part and I wouldn't put it past them, but I'd still want some more details.

I never understood why there were ranks in first place as game is supposed to be "casual". Also 1 week after rank reset you start to see team mates that makes you wonder how they can tie their shoe laces.

Please no. Having new players more consistently matched up with seasoned players than what already happens now would be a nightmare for the former and unsatisfying as heck for the latter.

No rank is gonna be cool and all not really but when are they going to fix how exp and bp are earned? "Tunneling" seems to be encouraged and so is constantly trying to be the center of attention for the killer

It will confirm that this game was not nor will ever be competitive.

That will be a tough pill for many to swallow.

To be fair, if we removed ranks, gamer joe would brag that he was rank 1 before ranks were removed. It's the same with hours played, tbh. Like unless you're a lump on a stump, you're going to eventually hit at least purple ranks. It's a pissing contest regardless who says what, when, and where. It's all just a flex on your legitimacy, authority, knowledge. If it's not one thing it's another:

"I have five billion hours played so I know what I'm talking about."

"I've played sixty-thousand matches so I know what I'm talking about."

"I'm rank 1 so I know what I'm talking about."

"I was red rank before ranks were deleted, so I know what I'm talking about."

"I hit red rank on my 20th hour so I'm automatically a pro and know what I'm talking about."

What honestly should happen is that ranks should be invisible. And more spread out. And should be based on both hours played and win/participation ratio.

200 hours played and you've got high wins but low participation? You're probably not that good, let's put you with players who also don't try that much and you can all faff about until something clicks and you actually start doing gens, learning to lure the killer, do some unhooking, etc. low wins but high participation? you're probably just unlucky, let's get you with some players who can carry their own weight. Somehow placed against really good killers/survivors? After a few straight losses in a row the system should evaluate your score and bump you down a peg, maybe you've hit that glass ceiling and you need a bit more practice before we challenge you again. Win a few more games and you'll probably get bumped back up. And after a certain amount of hours played, it would stop counting all the old hours you've played when you lost constantly, and your average would stabilize a lot more, probably even go up steadily if you keep doing well.

But this would all happen in the background, so while I say all this stuff, you'd have no actual knowledge about how the system is figuring out where you fit in the overall system.

Hours by K/D ratio, plain and simple imo.

The problem with matchmaking is that all of the ranks are too close together. I have hit rank 8 survivor this season and as someone who hates playing survivor, i can tell you, i should NOT be rank 8. I suck with survivor. I haven't unlocked any DLC survivors, i have none of the meta perks other than dead hard, i don't know the maps and pallete locations well, i usually can't keep a chase up for more than 20 seconds.

The fact that i can hit rank 8(about to be 7, still going up) despite the fact that i play so poorly is just proof that it is too easy to rank up in this game. The game has not demanded that i play well in order to rank up, at all. Too much of your score comes from doing things that might not even help you escape (or your team escape). Survivors are OVERLY rewarded for unhooking people, regardless if the killer is only 15 meters away, which does nothing except help the killer. As a killer main, when someone unhooks someone immediately after i just hooked them, now i dont even have to spend time looking for another player or checking a gen, i know theres a fresh player that just unhooked somebody right there. Of course if they have borrowed time, it would be an exception, but it seems like most of the time that isn't the case.

Other than needing MORE pips, ranking up doesn't seem to get more challenging as you go up in rank. At least not until you hit the rank 5+ mark. They really need to require people to work harder to rank up, with each rank requiring more perfect play than the last in order to pip.

The reason that there is a huge discrepancy between killer and survivors ranks in matchmaking is because survivors rank up too easily, which means that there are almost NO low rank survivors for low rank killers to pitted against. So the system is forced to pick from all of the higher rank survivors (sometimes really good ones, sometimes ones like me who don't deserve rank 8 yet).

Basically, the ranks don't accurately depict a players skill level because ranking up doesn't demand skill, therefore proper matchmaking cannot be done until they fix rank requirements.

Aye there's no instant fix. If they were to implement something new the slate would be wiped clean, everyone starts at the bottom again, and over a period of several weeks to months the system would distribute evenly.

The unfortunate thing about the current system is that it doesn't spread out the skill level, it puts you with players who are at your rank(ignoring the broken mess it is right now, just focusing on the concept of pipping). It's very easy to play to lose and still pip up. You don't need to win, you don't need to contribute all that much to the game, honestly. Heal a player twice, get a single unhook, get a generator, cleanse a totem, win a chase, you've basically double pipped at that point. And endgame collapse unhooks are so much more valuable than escaping, especially in red ranks. In red ranks, you won't pip if you play to escape, which feels very counter-intuitive to the idea of the game.

The pip system needs to be demolished. It doesn't put players who are good with players who are good. If you can game the system you can get to rank 4 really easily. I'm not even a good player and I hover between ranks 4 and 5 constantly.