Alithra

A new matchmaking system when you have no perks? Yeah, makes a lot of sense.

Hysterical? Do you even know the meaning of that word? And why are you making this personal by attacking like that? Making it personal and attacking makes your point better? How low can you go? Disgusting. Not gonna have an argument with such a person. Have a nice day, honey.

The thing, as I already said, is that Claudette is not the only one with this issue. Francis has this too with his prestige or purchased clothes, same with some Meg's clothes, and even Jake and David can become invisible with certain hairstyles and clothes while facing a wall. So, as I said, maybe Claudette is a 10% more…

You kinda did say anything is justified because they're killers. So if they hold you it's okay, but not the other way around. Basically, your own words.

I see. So if a killer holds the game hostage forever giving you the only option to dc and lose your BP it's okay. I understand now. Thanks for making it clear.

Killers didn't have a timer either when bodyblocking people at the basement or deadends.

So, if a Claudette hides in a map for 15 mins until she gets tired and gets out or until the killer dcs, that's bad, but if a killer makes you lay on the floor for 4 mins it's okay. So where is the line? In 7 minutes or in being killer or survivor while holding the game?

The problem is some issues take years to get addressed, like the basement stairs or holding the game hostage situations, or Claudettes hiding in the map for an hour.

Which gets addressed with bans for using hacks, so I don't see the problem. I also got a killer running Legion teleporting to me and hitting me from the other side of an obstacle. I got hit, I didn't get many bloodpoints, but I reported him for hacks to DbD and also to Steam and I'm pretty sure he'll get ANOTHER Steam ban…

Survivors could never hold the game hostage. They can hide, they can teabag at gates, but not hold the game forever. Killer could hold the game forever, it happened a lot of times. Devs always supported people teabagging at gates or hiding, or farming points by looking for totems or opening chests for 10 minutes. So don't…

Yeah, poor innocent killers, they couldn't hold the game hostage forever giving the survivor the only option to DC making them lose all their BP earned.

This was suffered by survivors as well. Both sides could suffer of long games and survivors could end in a holding the game hostage situation by the killer on the basement or dead ends. You could just approach that gate and they'd get out, easy as that. But anyways, that doesn't make it okay to make it the other way around…

I never said I panicked, I said I saw OTHER SURVIVORS (this means NOT ME) doing this for the said reason. I must remind you not only survivors would hide for 15 mins, also killers would hold the game hostage for a survivor or several survivors in a basement or in a dead end, so EGC is a good solution for both sides. But…

Yeah, just like Claudettes hiding for 20 mins in a map is playing with the killer. But that's not cool, killers should be respected, so there goes EGC.

No, it's perfectly fine. What isn't fine is making me wait for 4 minutes just so you can do so. Go watch a Youtube video or give me an option to immediately give up so I don't have to wait just so you can enjoy some graphics. BTW I never looped, I said I did focus on the gates. He grabbed me from opening a gate and left me…

yeah, it's not like mashing your spacebar for a whole minute and needing a new keyboard before a year is stressful at all. Or bad for your pocket, or your housemates.

Some survivors? Sure. Me? Never. I do not derserve this. I never had this attitude and always reported anyone doing this. Just because some people hid in the map for 15 mins doesn't mean it's okay to make EVERYONE (not only them) agonize in the floor now for 4 minutes. Put them in a hook or give an option to make it…

Good advice, and I'm thankful for it, but I still saw killers complaining that survivors were forcing this situation as well only for the lols, or to make the killer waste time (as usual), who knows. Yeah, it's only 2 or 4 minutes, but when it becomes 2 minutes everytime, maybe it stops being so fun. I also saw several…

I read that lowering your graphics helps. This is an issue with many clothes and characters, you can't just ask them to delete black people and dark clothes from the game. Well, you can, but it's not likely to happen, just like because you find it hard to track people on the corn fields they're not going to delete Coldwind…

It's not false reports. It's not like saying "hey he called me something bad" while he did not even say a word. It's what I consider should be bannable (of course, if repeated) because it's toxic behaviour, plain and simple. It's not a fake report just because my opinion differs.

Well, reportable is everything, bannable is something else. So yeah, I did report it and will keep doing it. Now it has a timer, but that doesn't make it okay.

Well yeah, it can end, but you're forcing the killer to find you and then chase you, not much better than Claudettes hiding at random places not even near the gates just to make the killer waste time, just until the killer DCs to deny her the 5k BP. Yeah, it can end if the killer finds her, but that doesn't mean it's good…

I mean teabagging as in people waiting at the gates doing nothing but showing their butt until the killer comes and hits them. So yeah, it's reportable because it's holding the game hostage.

Can you please show me where a killer hold the game hostage in a basement or a dead end and you created a topic about it? Just because a lot of people created a lot of this situations doesn't mean putting a timer of 4 minutes now is okay. Some people keep forcing this situation, even if it's just 2-4 minutes, it's still…

What I don't want is people leaving me on the floor for 4 mins just to see an animation. Go to Youtube and see it and let me be. This is like saying people getting bodyblocked on the basement and holding the game hostage was not okay, but it's okay if it has a timer of 4 mins and an animation. Just because it lasts less it…

As I said several times, I didn't support holding the game hostage or teabag in the gates back in the days. That doesn't mean leaving you in the floor for 4 minutes for the sake of it is fine either. Yeah, "my" not interested. You seem to know me very well. Why would I post at all then? I knew I was going to get a bunch of…

Maybe some will like to do it forever, you cannot know how people will deal with it in the future. Remove the animation and it will work as well as someone bleeding out on the floor: No animation, no satisfaction, ever, and less BP, so they will mostly try and find you for the BP of hooking you, or they will go afk until…

So? They still make it longer on purpose. Not two, but four minutes, on purpose, just to screw people. Still not fair. Get rid of the animation just like bleeding out had no animation, and less people will do it. Though they will still do it just because some people enjoy making others waste their time, but it will be less…

Honestly, DEAR, I literally said I saw this happen a lot of times during just 1 day playing since the update, and it's not like I spent 24 hours playing. I saw killers triggering EGC and trolling every single time there was only 1 survivor left. 100% of the times, literally.

As I said, I'm okay with that. I die? Okay, I die, then ######### put me on a hook and end it, don't make me waste my time. I mean, did you read my post at all? He chased me to the first gate, then to the second, I managed to bodyblock him once and get to open the gate but he was staring at me while I was doing it, caught…

Nope, "mine" not against that. I'm against the fact that bleeding out had no animation while EGC does have an animation. Do you know of anyone that would leave survivors to die off by bleeding out instead of hanging them? Me neither, because it gave no satisfaction. No cool animation, nothing, just would make the killers…

I had always reported people who teabag at the gates for no reason. I'd always stay at a gate for like 1 minute if there was someone else alive (just to tank and such if needed), but after a minute or if the get out and I'm the last one, I'd leave immediately. Why would I waste my own time and the killer's? It gives me no…

That doesn't mean it should be killer-sided now. Make it balanced, end of the story. Don't make it fun to trigger just so everyone triggers it to see animations. Bleeding out never had a cool animation, that's why most killers would go and try to find you if you're bleeding out, because they can only lose bp if they let…

Do you know of anyone letting a survivor bleed out on the floor? Because I do not. killers would always try and find you to get the points. But now it's worth it because there's a cool animation. Delete the animation and the problem is gone. I never said that was my priority, btw, i'm just saying it was worth it for many…

Still agonizing, boring and annoying, and you can't confort yourself thinking that by bleeding out you denied points to the killer. Do you know of anyone letting a survivor bleed out on the floor? Because I do not. killers would always try and find you to get the points. But now it's worth it because there's a cool…

Nope, stop assuming how I feel about things because you know ######### about me. I actually like it and find it fair so nobody can hold the game hostage for long periods, or for when the killer and the last survivor find the hatch at the same time and they stand still for 20 minutes until one of them gets bored and…

No, it wasn't just 2 minutes. The timer slows down a lot when you're downed. Did you read the patchnotes about the EGC?

Yeah, it's not like you only have 2 minutes to open a gate and get out. It's not like he can go from one gate to the other faster than you, either, especially if he's running NOED.

Yeah, it's not like he can chase you to the other gate and get you in 2 minutes! Thanks for your advice. Maybe you can even read this post of how agonizing it can be just because the killer wants some laughs: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/62173/now-killers-force-and-abuse-egc-for-their-own-amusement/p1

yeah, they do, and if they have NOED they run faster. Happened to me a few times, even made a post complaining about one of these agonizing times. The killer was just staring and chasing me for a good 3 mins.

Oh, thanks! Though it doesn't necessarily have to be a simulated victory. i've played a lot of matches with friends with everyone getting fair perks and addons and just playign a serious average game and rotating the killer just because we were 5 and wanted to play together without leaving anyone out. We also did some…

No idea what "KYF" is so... Yeah, thanks I guess. PSKDU exists as well, and AJSH, and VSNEJ, and QTF.

Yeah, I already said I'd have gone afk if I knew from the begining this was going to happen. Thanks for reading all I said and giving the advice I already gave to myself.

Tell me where exactly I said that was okay. I said several times I don't support that behaviour, not even from friends playing in premade with me, so why should I be punished in the first place?

I blame whoever is doing something wrong. I played with a teabagger once in a premade and told him if he was gonna teabag I wasn't going to play anymore with him, so he stopped doing it (at least when we played as a premade). Now this person is doing something wrong, so I do blame on him.

For real? Well, I didn't try myself but, how many points are we talking about here? I thought sacrifices gave more points. If EGC gives more points, this is completely wrong because killers will force the situation even more and not just to see the animation.

Tell me, why do I deserve to experience this first hand? I never teabagged, as killer or as survivor. Never hold the game hostage, never made people waste time for my own amusement. Do I have to pay for others' sins? Is this justice?

I NEVER teabagged or hold the game hostage just to mess with the killer. I always got out asap, don't want to waste my time or anyone else's. Even if I did see a lot of survivors staying while I was getting out. You can't blame me for this, so I don't deserve this. Other survivors deserve this? Sure, but not me.

Then go watch a video in Youtube?

Yeah, I really wanted to do it, but then I'd lose my 15k I earnt decently doing useful stuff just to make him lose... 500 points? I should just have gone afk if I had known he was gonna do this, but I realized too late that he was just messing with me.