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Those stats are for a 4man swf at high mmr meaning they are playing against high mmr killers see theres solo dou threes and 4man all for not high mmr and for high mmr lol. Its for all 4 swf players being high mmr they have all the data and they crunch it and this is how people get statistics. Again even besides all these…

Its one of the campfire chats sucks they dont save trhe vods but its been said numerous times and thats why the number is 60%. Ima go do something productive cause literally everyone here has no numbers no data im the only one showing anything that's factual and everyone else is like nu uh lol. here goes a thread about it

Well guess the devs saying they want it killer sided and a 60% rate which its at isnt enough… The people literally making the game saying they want it slighlty killer sided isntr enough data . OK goodbye lol.

Here it goes found it. Any more questions anyone?

The new study i cant find but its "i know" they released info with solo dou threes and full swf on high and low mmr and the 4 man swf still only escaped 48% of the time at the 5% mmr

The study is actually based off of all the killers and there individual kill rates that play at that 5% mmr including 4 man swfs.

No if you look at the data even trapper at high 5% mmr has a 56% kill rate. 56>50 meaning its a slightly killer sided.

Yea of course thats why on the next chart for high mmr shes way higher and trapper is lacking and even less lacking then nurse simply because they have game sense on how to play killer in general. I for one wish it was more fair but they have to many killers and to much to do in order to get everyone to a higher skill…

I totally agree im not arguing that, thats an okay number but im just continuing the conversation on is the game killer sided or not.

Its been shown at all leverls of mmr to be less then a 50% escape with swf and solo dou and threes. They posted the kill rates on all and all went toward less then 50% escape rate. No one saying that the killer is dominating what im saying is the game is killer sided and balanced to be killer sided.

I completely understand that im not saying the killer will always win. I also get that nerfs and buffs dont effect things to drastically its the game overall that adjusts for the 60% kill rate. Even the lowest kill rate though is 52% on a bad day which is still going to the original point that its killer sided. Its the…

That just means the mmr is terrible. The numbers that bhvr gets are completely different from what we see in game and they balance the game to be a 60% kill rate and also in the killers favor theres no denying this they have stated themselves plenty of times and it seems like theyre numbers are going right with what they…

No what breaks the win streak is survivors stream sniping knowing who they are going against where the killer is what perks they are bringing then bringing the exact counter play builds to beat that killers streak. Which is how momo lost their streak. Not because it was the top tier 1% survivors. Momo stomped 100s of top…

If im stuck on winning? thats what this whole post is about that killer is the winning side what else would we be talking about here it dosent matter how you won its a win. To your second point exactly and all the data that bhvr collects played good or bad (players at high mmr make much less mistakes) indicates that the…

You won more then 60% of the games as killer so again it proves killer is the power role and the role that wins more making it killer sided. Even from the indications of your videos it shows its killer sided. So at a lower mmr you lose as survivor and at a claimed higher mmr you win as killer. So where is the point in your…

Im going through the video its almost no survivor gameplay just skull merchant and some twins and plague you losing all youre survivor matches the survivors have no idea to loop in any of your killer matches which you won almost all and your survivor teammates played terrible in all of the survivor matches. I literally saw…

Ahhh so the best top 5% swfs are bad sure got it lol. The nurse is the worst player in the game now if you go by top mmr she way higher here let me show you an old data since they dont show the new one for top mmr. Even when in all ranks not just topp mmr shes at 52% still means killer is the stronger role. Every set of…

I dont want your vods I want all the peoples games data that play the game (like the devs have) at high mmr you dont even know what mmr you play at also youre only one person you might be terrible at the game for all I know. Thats not data thats one persons experience. Sure shoot away at why you think its flawed on the…

Lol sure good data prove the data at high mmr is flawed. You seem to be missing the point its data at the highest mmr where its the most unflawed. See I know I am right its killer sided at high level the devs made it that way facts 🤣. Prove me wrong with data. You cant, you lose. Check and Mate!!!

Please show me the data you collected to prove your point or admit you have no data and are just going based off of what people say and feel.

No lol Its more killer sided at low levels and still killer sided at high mmr the numbers clearly prove it. You dont even know ifd you play at a high level lol i always love the " I pLaY aT hIgH MmR' argument youre wrong its as simple as that no one cares how you feel the NUMBERS dont lie math dosent lie. If it is a 48%…

How is looking at every single different mmr's data flawed data flawed data is not looking at it by every metric like the nurses kill rate for example. If at the highest mmr the escape rate is still under 50% explain to me how that is not an indicator the game is not killer sided? Without telling me what the community…

Except the devs who have all the input in the game unanimously agree the game is killer sided by all metrics and purposely make it that way. How you feel when your playing means nothing and facts dont have feelings. You can feel its one way or another but the data proves what it really is. Its the same reason a full comp…

Did you not read I said yes she is the worst killer overall. Most nurse games you will stomp the nurse untill high mmr the numbers dont just look at high mmr but overall. If they accounted for only high mmr like they did for the high mmr kill rate then you would get a completely different number. You're literally agreeing…

Just bring no mither and no other perk if your in a swf tell them to do the same problem solved for survivor.

I just play to have fun plays i.e. flashlight saves head on sabo plays. The game isnt fun anymore just being chased since they're gutting the maps and making it more just a drop and run playstyle instead of mind games and good loops. Plus with the kill rate being 60% you should only be escaping like 2 in 5 games. So I just…

She is she has the highest kill rate. Even with what your saying the data may be skewed due to people giving up and killing on hook that data is far less prevalent at high mmr because people know what they're doing and don't quit. So if any number is a decent indicator of what's going on its the raw data from the top mmr.…

If that was true then why do swfs at high mmr only have a 48% escape rate

Thats not what the data says.

Dono what patch they changed it but it used to and most people still think it does for the survival category. If that triggers you as killer though then its probably safe to say you need to take a break from the game you lost its a game people try to win. Just hit them and push them out maybe might even get a backflip. If…

I wouldnt say unplayable but bugged to the max. DH is bugged Ds is Bugged Moris are bugged vaulting is bugged flashlights are bugged player models are bugged. The maps have multiple new bugs I can go on just lets say the whole game is one huge bug.

Yea i get that but after playing this ptb they just need to scrap it and try again they broke everything vaults flashlights DH DS mori animations player models theres sno much im not even naming right now.

Yup I called it too everyone was freaking out but yet again I am right.

They say its not visually noticeable first thing when I loaded in was man everything looks so much better.

Literally top killer in the game not only are the S tier they are now in their own category S+ tier. They make nurse look like the trapper. They got a new add on to make victor faster and they also got one that makes survivor broken you can literally hit every survivor run thana and its like playing a plague nurse.

Almost everything in the game cant handle it everything is pretty scuffed but it does look nicer.

You get more blood points the longer you stay in the match for survivor.

Thanks for calling me the king. A surrender button wont fix anything anyways.

Swf isn't going anywhere and no matter what you do its always going to be stronger. As for the wiggle meter just hook the survivor people play sabo squads all the time and still win. Even before the buff I was still doing the exact same amount of saving I am now nerfing it doesn't make it any harder. 3.You dont need a…

I dont know i dont tunnel and i never have a problem even when im playing scrims with no perk restrictions

You could also just go for someone else which makes another survivor get off a gen to go pick someone up unless the person has UB which only works once. Youre probably even going to get a hit if that is the survivors game plan which also means they probably havent been doing gens for the whole chase.

Bubba is thye best killer to loop. Bubs is my hero.

I know the feeling that's how I felt for my survivor side when 6.1 dropped and rightfully so.

Shes a strong killer but shes really just an m1 killer for 95% of the game if you dont cleanse. Also she can lose her power by getting pallet stunned and you can also dodge it pretty easily all you have to do is get used to being injured like going against legion.

wouldnt mind this but then you have to give it a little buff

So just let it go through walls basically it only actually works were the physics wouldnt hit you under a window or on the larger side of a pallet or a fence ect taking that out would just let it go though any obstacle.

thats why i ment gotta time the reload sometimes i reload in chase when im near a locker instead of waiting till i have 0 and end up in an area with no locker.

To be fair its like a .5 sec with iron just gotta time the reload correctly.

Just wanted to give a heads up to try again.

congrats