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last post-i hope they get changed keep the discussion going in other post.

agreed

rework not removed

kinda it's considered a tec more and more survivors are using it with bt. It's not that good but it can work.

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Okay i've been playing killer (the race to rank 1) and i let these guy have a second chance and they found a key and teebaged then open the hatch and jumped in dumb as heck man.

which included a lot of disagreement

i meant we came to an agreement after a long discussion

changing gen speed would fix that.

see here's the problem with the statement name another game in this genre that's right dead by daylight, Friday the 13th and last year something i have been playing pretty frequently (love it) but saying go play a different game would work if it wasn't this genre and if survivors are getting you in 5 minutes your ######### at…

hmm well the only counter i've heard to moris is not go down lmao. But yeah i get you

why I think in conjunction with that they need to fix their shiet ranking system plague literally can’t there’s a lot wrong but I believe they are working on it.

There's a lot of other good post being talked as moris and keys are a hot subject right now.

or it shouldn't be as hate filled so moris and key should be changed to not shift the tide of the match towards and insta win or insta loss

agreed my post is above we need an uproar to have anything change.

Yeah I just don’t think it should be allowed to be such as tunnel filled toxic match keys and moris alike

I mostly play in America East and Europe which happens in both less frequently in America

agreed

I believe if it happened in conjunction with other key changes

Yeah i guess i can see that but most people i vs. dont have that mentality its shake head yes spam mori then do move on to next person to tunnel

Yeah I personally like that but here’s what other people said. 1. A cool down so killers can still use it to win a game but not to everybody 2. A charges system like devour after 5 hooks you can mori anybody and 3rd what you said but it can also be used at endgame.

I also like this.

Whats your opinion on keys if you don't mind me asking?

him those are very interesting suggestion my only problem with that i don't think they will remove an offering or item people will be up in arms i think the insta heal change is cool more teammate less selfishness .

i agree 100%

Alright to explain it would be kinda like devour 4-5 hooks and you can mori anybody it would subside the tunneling problem and stop the early kill giving survivor a hell of a time to even get a hold in the game after losing it would still be strong and scary survivors would be shacking after the 4 hook i like that way…

Seriously kinda obnoxious just don't go down just a cool animation they said.

I see where your coming from but I think they can be quite suppresses to anyone that feels like playing the game someone said a charged system like 4-5 charges and you can Mori anyone stops tunneling and cancels out an early kill and I also believe that using a mori to destroy a key is a problem it’s just the toxic nature…

Yeah i get that just move to the next game but i mean it shouldn't be so ez

The data is given bhvr but it lacks any real info just how many times a certain kill threshold is met

yeah that's not bad many different approaches some say the 2 hook thing would be to much i think its fine

this become a toxic mess i talked to one of my friends and we can to a agreement keys and moris should be changed at the same time.

yes, but i always saw a decent suggestion charges like devour 4-5 hooks then a mori is possible for anyway stops tunneling etc.

i posted this higher above a charges system like 4- 5 hooks mori anybody

A guy in my forum had the ingenious idea of having it as charges like 4 hooks then you can mori anymore it stops tunneling and can be good.

no again you missed my point, HE DOESN"T break the pallet because the killer knows when he gets me i'm down and dead so he will just run around the pallet till he stack and then it's basically a free down. Moris save so much time.

Yeah he does state an extreme but those killers need help from the bhvr above with buffs we can agree keys and moris need changing

Yeah my thread was closed by Rizzo anyways so your my only hope.

this post is way better than mine hope they see this. :)

you've missed my point, there is only so many resources in a given area unsafe pallets are useless for survive-ability that's why there are FOUR people in a game to get hooked saved do gens escape i'm not saying i want to escape every game i'm just saying moris are a 3 or 4k if the killer has a brain a mori cuts out 2/3 of…

In a perfect world where killers perfectly pressured the map and didn't stay near hooks ds wouldn't be needed or used but we don't comparing a face camper to a ds user is just obnoxious and blasphemy i would much rather use that perk slot for something like botany love that perk.

like i stated she camped the hook 2 minute chase maybe more i get hooked thats a good chase not bad she proxy's the hook sixty seconds save then killed and moried about 3-4 minutes and there are gen defense perks use them if gens go in 5 minutes corrupt, ruin, thana, dying light,pop etc.

i play rank 1 most of the time and i can say that if a killer wants you he will get you thats why its a 4v1 and 12 hooks all round you moring someone cuts off 8 that is 2/3 the job i believe if the just survive mentality was realistic everybody would be rank 1 but that's not the case maybe if your vs. a bot. The hook is…

Ez mode is a swf i agree but they all have to be around the same rank and the key is unneeded

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The only reason i did that was because she basically stayed near my hook and bolted when i got pulled off all pallets near my hook were used and no one had borrowed it was my only option which she just waited and blood lusted me after at a vault.

don't go down? i disagree if the killer could just not get people down the game would be broken and killers would never win ever the killer should be able to get people down in time i've been blood-lusted and moried at a pallet multiple times. I don't think your looking at it from a survivors perspective.

elaborate. is it fun for both sides? To queue up wait and have a 3 minute game and the killer doesn't pip neither do any of the survivors its just not well designed. 2 hooks and it working at endgame i believe would be a great change

yeah that is pretty bull my thought process on keys are changing as more people talk about their discontent with keys my argument is a mori affects 4 players game and basically wins a game while a key may not be used(in that game) or the killer could tunnel as counter-play or playing well and spreading out agro because…