MouseBoii

The dev's decide what is balanced and unbalanced via statistics. If the spirit averages 3.5 kills per game, it's time to balance this statistic out.

I feel like the counter arguments for "It's not a healthy killer" are just boiled down to "Oh you think it's unfun, how subjective, that's an invalid argument." While that's a valid thing to say to someone, it's a serious strawman when we talk about killers who've received the nerf hammer. All the killers who have received…

I saw hexy looping a billy for like 90 seconds while complaining the whole time how broken billy was. He then proceeded to throw and let himself get sawed because of how angry he was at billy. Some people are very odd.

Stealth doesn't exist in this game. All you need are whispers and eye balls to track people. And all the good killers will run whispers.

Which is exactly what I've been thinking. Adding some type of effect that is so small that won't really effect gameplay too much may inadvertently be a nerf in some sense of the word if it means more demo's will miss more hits that would normally be m1's. Why anyone would argue against it is so bizarre to me... Especially…

According to your logic, that's a buff to his ability, and thats a no-go. If you cannot understand why I would like to see an incentive for players to land a back shred, then leave the thread, because you don't understand the fundamental premise of the argument that I've stated to you over 4 times now. It's getting boring…

I feel like you're just arguing for the sake of argument. None of what you're saying seems to be consistent with the argument that I propose. Huntress and plague both have powers that damage survivors but do not 1 shot them, so that argument is invalid. Could the huntress just m1 you twice and that be the end of it?…

But you can never down anyone with a shock. For any killer that has a power that damages survivors, there is a large amount of incentive to use that power when you're right behind them. (Huntress, billy, myers, ghost face, leatherface, plague.) I'm not saying that shred is not viable.. It is.. I just see an opportunity to…

The question is this: How do you get bodyblocked to get puked on and get 1 shot in the first place? That being said, Idk, I usually just say GG and move on. Seems like they were new and didn't really know. You seem to have come off very hostile from the get go.

While it's definitely in the killers favor, they're already behind you so they deserve to be rewarded for it, but the possibility of outplaying them and completely screwing them over is always a fun experience. Right now for demo, there's no incentive. I don't know much about console, but if you match a good huntress vs a…

You'd be surprised how many good survivors can outplay a back shred. I'm max deviousness about 30% into the game already. There's no good incentive past that. Even if I run STBFL I still get max deviousnous. Honestly, this is a win-win. The changes I suggested are so small.

Ya, if you read my post, I was only suggesting very minor changes to add an inventive to back-shred. I think gameplay can be far more fun if the demogorgon has a reason to back-shred you, opening up the possibilities to outplay his shred. Why is that a bad thing?

Ya, if you read my post, I was only suggesting very minor changes to add an inventive to back-shred. I think gameplay can be far more fun if the demogorgon has a reason to back-shred you, opening up the possibilities to outplay his shred. Why is that a bad thing? Sounds like a win-win to me.

It definitely is risky. You can reset entire loops or let them get to a whole different much stronger loop if you miss. However, his shred is seriously under-rated in the community. You honestly need to put in a couple hundred games to start to see the potential it has. (Just like huntress hatchets or billy curves, these…

It only takes 1s to fully charge. It's true that his lunge can be juked, but when you play as much as I do, you realize that back shredding is as easy as hitting a back hatchet, probably more easy, when you become patient with it. (which I do, I love me those damn bloodpoints.)

Yes. I'd like to add that the idea of a 1 shot charge had entered my head, but I don't see a way it could be balanced even if you had to hold it for like 5s. Too tough, too dramatic of a change.

Having put a decent amount of hours into him, I think the hitbox is perfect. I think there should be some counter-play to being able to dodge the shred, (which there definintely is) and at the same time, I'm landing hits that some people never thought anyone could hit.

If we're being honest here I've played like a couple hundred games on demogorgon. I think a 1 shot is too much.

I think demogorgon might be too strong if he was given a 1 shot, but im glad you agree generally!

Just sounds like you got juked. If you lose the scratch marks, just look around the area and look diligently for blood and try to predict where the juke may have happened. Odds are they're just next to a rock.