General Discussions
General Discussions
Why nerf the wraith
Dude why? Why am I seeing stuff about nerfing wraith from here all the way to Reddit and Facebook. The wraith is fine. I am also deep down a wraith main from the beginning, but I’m trying to say this without bias. I think he’s fine as is and not very very strong. Granted he is mostly able to get a free 1st hit, but after that you’re just a normal m1 guy. Being a mostly m1 killer makes him require more skill as to play more without a slightly over beneficial power. If you could nerf him while giving him buffs in other areas, what would you do?
edit: for any further comments to be made, @Peanits has responded to the post
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Reddit is a meme community and FaceBook is Facebook
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Reddit’s DbD community is by and large extremely survivor leaning so large salt rocks need to be taken when looking there. Facebook...I’ll be honest, I’ve never been able to take a Facebook community seriously so...
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What is facebook? Ah just searched and found out that was 80 years ago
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I would probably add some extra coxcombing to his clapper.
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Probably because a certain streamer said wraith was better than billy and the 3rd best killer in the game (which is total bs imo).
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I imagine people are memeing? Idk.
This can not be true.
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This is the only reason I could come up with and I hope it's not the correct one. Such an idiot.
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Wraith is OP now? ######### is wrong with people.
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I imagine this might be stemming from Tru3 playing as Wraith recently. Of course Tru3 usually wrecks house with most killers so I don't know. Wraith is far from OP.
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The Facebook community was introduced to me by my friend. They’re just a bunch of middle age men and women, they are very logical and reasonable. I don’t see many of them ######### the entire time, so I find them respectable. I have Instagram for dbd news, vids, memes and the tiny 500ish followers I have.. a few of them have mentioned it before so it’s built my concern for old bing bong
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i guess wraith is "overperforming". damn, this meme is even better then "pretty good job so far".
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Wraith will be fine just don't tell the dev's that the brown add-ons are OP!
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Not to be disrespectful to them, but if they’re older players it’s entirely possible they struggle to make out Wraith’s outline as he approaches, and if any of them play on Switch there’s apparently a bug making him impossible to see sometimes. If it is eyesight, then I’m sorry but I can’t claim to have much sympathy since as a colorblind player the devs have been decisively uncaring that blood without bloodhound is useless for me on any outdoor map since beta. Vision issues don’t get any care from the devs heh.
Otherwise, it’s pretty objective he’s the weakest stealth killer since he’s the only one without an instadown (Pig isn’t true stealth imo) so I wouldn’t worry about what you see people saying too much.
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i mean surely some of them have trouble with eyesight and maybe even hearing, but I don’t think it is a major cause to there arugment. The arguments are typically pretty consistent to what they are here but less spiteful.
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Well, it is tru3. People love blindly believing everything streamers say and this is probably the reason people are complaining about wraith.
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I think the reason why he did so well thus thinking Wraith is good is because of lack of any healing perks in the games he played. Like his only real loss was against good loopers who all had healing perks. Coincidence ? I think not.
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Lmao. I could say a lot of things, but instead I will say:
smh
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Maybe we had a massive influx of new players?
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Oh cmon guys. Wraith op?
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You're right. I really should be used to it by now.
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wraith has been the same for over a year. He was trash then and is trash now.... he's an addon dependent killer that when survivors learn what addons the wraith is running they butcher him.... the wraith is the ultimate meme of dead by daylight and will forever be known as the meme.... until the devs either A.) silent mr. bingbong or B.) make it map wide.
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Tru3 isn't complaining about Wraith, though, so why would complaints about Wraith stem from him?
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Tru3 got 14 4ks in 15 matches and said wraith is better than billy and the 3rd best killer in the game = Wraith op pls nerf
That's my guess. If the complaints started recently it is probably because of this.
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If a killer kills everyone in a match, some people think that killer should be nerfed.
If a survivor escapes in one match, some people think the perks he was using should be nerfed.
I think some people's point of view should be nerfed.
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I thought a bit aboit that and FREAKING BAD WORD YEAH YOU'RE RIGHT!!!!! HE'S EVEN FASTER WHILE INVISIBLE LIKE #########!!!!
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Thanks for the clarification, but if you could change him what would you do? Not as a dev but as a player?
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I guess those Redditors & Facebookers need some good ol' git gud then. 🤭
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nerfing the wraith you cant nerf a killer that actually is weak OH WAIT, legion, i hope he stays untouched.
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LUL one streamer says something and a whole lot of people instantly go crazy, propably already planning the next killer "strike"
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The cry will never stop even after this replay
They just love to complain
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Me, being the guy who started the discussion. I was just concerned about it because I’ve seen backlash towards the wraith recently but peanuts confirmed no harm will be done to the wraith
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In 2016 people claimed him OP without joking
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'Certain streamer' likes to express a lot of questionable viewpoints just to stir the pot and stand out.
I doubt the Devs have any plans to nerf Wraith, it's not Pig or Legion, after all.
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Peanits talked about it in the discussion so yea, he’s okay
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From looking at the released stats all the killers are overperforming, even the weaker ones. I think DCs are tallied as kills. The started goal is to bring *down* the rate to two per game.
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Cause of Tru3 streams. He's been doing quite well with wraith and ghost.
Thus more people are using those killers a bit efficiently.
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Because Wraith is a killer and the devs can't help themselves, gotta nerf all killers 24/7
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Wraith is ######### and he got an indirect nerf when they nerfed spirit fury on him where you can camp pallets vs him now
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....yet. 👈️
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Imagine unironically calling... For WRAITH nerfs.
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The better not nerf my invisible chicken legs. He’s the only killer I’m decent with, and he doesn’t have much going for him.
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I say NERF WRAITH for sure! He’s nearly 100% invisible man. No heartbeat. That’s messed up. First time I played as wraith I was thinking no way is this fair. I’m running up on people and they have no idea, not to mention they can’t even run away because killers are, in my opinion WAAAAY too fast. They shouldn’t be able to keep up with survivors AND be invisible AND have no heartbeat AND deal with so small of a stun duration from pallets or anything else. If I stun you as a survivor it should be for a lengthy amount of time. The maps are too small and there’s too much work to do as survivors. 5 gens is a lot of work on these small maps. I’m not crying or complaining because I’m a “survivor main” I’m just telling the truth. Friday 13th has a bigger map, 1 killer still and SEVEN survivors and MULTIPLE ways to get out. So WHAT happened here in this game? Nonsense. Killers are too OP.
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Not yet, anyway.
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killers are just up in your grill too damn fast. They need to be set back give survivors a head start or spawn off the map or something. I’ve spawned in so many times and the killers just right there next to me ready to slay my ass lol it’s like come on give me a chance to venture out. Then killers just tunnel the first player they see so it makes them back out one by one. You’re gonna tell me killers don’t need a nerf you’re crazy. It’s a common thing I see, knock down, hook, killer camps on hook, survivor backs out, down to 3, repeat. That’s not fun. I think people wanna actually play the game and have chances to defend themselves or hide and there’s just not enough in each map. Too easy to find survivors
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How about Killers one shotting people? Insta knock on the ground. That’s not ridiculous? Can’t even run. It’s stupid. So many times I spawn in and I can’t even play the game. I think people spend more time loading new games than they do actually playing it. I’m telling you, map design has a lot to do with it. How are you gonna cram 4 people in a small space with 5 noisy generators that take a long time to repair and throw a killer in there and think that’s fair 😂 games need balance.
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They aren’t. I think it’s just hillbilly right now.
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I actually don’t think killers would be as much of an issue if you increase map size or slow them down somehow. They’re all up in it at the start someone always goes down 🧐
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we know who the rank 20 is
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Because why adapt when you can nerf?
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