Is Huntress if very well played, the best killer on the game?
Or a very good billy surpasses her, even if billy is more loopeable.
My experience tells me that even in tourneys, playing Huntress is a very good option considering other teams bring billy
Huntress is really strong in loops, less loopeable than billy, long range hatchets can count as map control.
I see good billys struggle more than a top Huntress because we all know what to expect when playing vs a billy, is a m1 killer with a chainsaw. Huntress, on the other side is less predictable, and still, even if someone reads everything, there are situations on which you will get down anyway, because there's no room for safety.
Billy one shoot ability can be avoided by good players, if the billy is good at turning in loops and stuff, he can still be countered if the survivor is reading his play. Being catch in the open is not something that will happen to a good survivor unless he is unhooking. In overall, Billy is way more loopeable.
Does billy fantastic map control outplay Huntress potencial in loops?
Does a Spirit outplay both of them after a novice player spends a couple of hours practising her with high end headsets?
Nurse is the other tops tier killer that we can consider. But right now she can be countered by just full W and almost nobody plays her.
Freddy is still a m1 killer, you can drop pallets early to play safe around his power while others rush him.
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if maps wouldnt be as bad for her as they are right now, its possible
maps are too big and too many obstacles have too big hitboxes, 110%ms on giant map is too painful to call her possibly strongest killer
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On certain maps she’s a great killer but the problem is map pressure.
She isn’t fast enough to be top tier, and can’t teleport/increase movement speed in any way.
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It's probably spirit or hag. Maybe nurse if you are a god with every blink. Huntress is another easy mode killer sure, but she can't be chain slugging across the entire map like a god tier hag will be.
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No, she's much map dependent, in some tiles (like grim pantry) there's literally nothing you can do.
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If you do know how to use her and you "toxic play" you'll own any SWF, there's a bone huntress with a boar head on rank 1 xbox who literally gives you no chance.
She doesn't camp, and as soon as you get unhooked she throws AND LANDS axes from pretty far away either downing you again or hitting the "hero"
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Too slow to pressure big maps
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Huntress can easily be looped if you know what you are doing. Especially on bad maps like the preschool, where I will make you fight for every single hatchet, and hump every busted building that exists.
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Grim pantry is a pretty decent map for her. I actually like that map.
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I think she's more maps dependent than Billy (Ormond, Haddonfield...etc)
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Her range makes her a very powerful killer, however, she is far from being top tier. Yes certain people are amazing with her, but I mean certain people are amazing with piggy.
Her problem is she is very map based. For example, the indoor maps make it hard for her to hit a hatchet as survivors can quickly duck into rooms. Maps such as Hadnofun has tall walls and vehicles she can't throw around. These type of maps drastically effect her power and turn her into basically an M1 killer. Which being one of the slowest M1 killers makes her weak.
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I have a love/hate relationship with Grim Pantry as huntress. Some of the shots she can make on that make me need to change my underwear, however the fact I have to run to the corner of a map to get more hatchets always ruins my enjoyment of the map.
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You can throw to the head in haddonfield cars, or bait survivor movement to hit them on the long sides of the car. Like on gas heaven car garage.
The surroundings of the road area in haddonfield are good for Huntress.
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Hitboxtress is up there because of the horrible hitboxes. Huntress mains are hitbox abusers pretty much. No much skill required, hitboxes doing the job for you.
If they fix hatchet hitboxes (never gonna happen btw), no one will play huntress like nurse.
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I know, I can usually outplay them every time, but this specific player I'm telling you about lands EVERY freaking axe throw... I don't know man! It's just amazing! I guess he never plays any other killer, I'll get the GT tonight for you if you want
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I believe she is still mid A-tier. Her power is amazing if you can use it consistently, but if you can't she is extremely loopable due to her 110% speed. Her speed brings her down in other areas too. She has next to no map pressure, and gets screwed over on most maps because they are simply too large for her to pressure effectively. As it stands, she is still outpaced by Billy, Spirit, and Freddy, Maybe even Hag and Ghostface. Her downfall is her pressure. If she is on a map like Autohaven or MacMillan, she can do really well, but put her on Lery's, Azarov's, Mother's Dwelling, Temple of Purgation, and she's a joke.
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I have faced and escaped against incredible huntress mains like Umbra and Coconut RTS, and they can still fail on the worst maps. I know it because I beat them multiple times. Especially if I was running dead hard and can juke a hatchet by pushing E.
Huntress's counter is being a 40m gamer, never allowing her to really chase you. All she is good for is the chase, if you deny that, she is nothing.
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Huntress can be very amazing on a good map for her. On a bad map she can still be dangerous, but she can't play up to her full potential.
In a way every large, debris filled map that made such as Yamaoka or Ormond is an indirect nerf to her as a whole since there's an insane amount of line of sight breakers, high debris, or loops that can't be thrown over.
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I play xbox and am trying to be better at huntress. Id like that gt.
Hitboxes surrounding items on the map screw up more shots then hitboxes on players. Yes there are some bs hits, but you get that on m1 killers just as much.
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Do you mean stealth play? Is that the 4m gamer? Cause that might be my problem along with a little biut of broken axe throw hitboxes on xbox cause killer is host, I never play stealth, I'm usually the guy who loops the killer for 3+ gens
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She has the potential to be very good when played well, although I'd still put a good Nurse above her for sure. There's a lot of tiles where you can't get LOS or mindgame for a hit, so your only option is to brute force it and become a bloodlust gamer. The Nurse doesn't care about any of that, she can blink right through it.
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Nurse just auto loses to sprint burst and Los blockers. Her cooldowns need to go my friend.
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Spine chill, or good game awareness, lets you be the 40m gamer.
Stealth is optimal in DBD. You waste just as much of the killers time as looping, and don't waste pallets doing it. Good luck looping competent killers on maps like hawkwins, sanctum of wrath, shelter woods, etc etc. You will burn every pallet fast and then your team is screwed.
Looping is a last resort to me. Good killers will realize you are not worth chasing, even if you run a full aggro build like object and head-on. They will leave you and kill off your weaker teammates instead.
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Samination predicted the cooldown eons before it came to be
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That's because Samination is a God.
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Huntress is good but not the best.
Although she has range, she does not have a strong loop counter or good map mobility, and her mind-games are limited.
- Hillbilly, Nurse and Freddy have better map mobility.
- Hillbilly, Nurse and Spirit can counter loops better.
- Freddy and Spirit have better mind-games.
Those 4 Killers can outperform a Huntress.
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She's map dependant to a certain extent. She definitely benefits from hitboxes, both the hitbox of survivors and her hatchet's. It's true that she can't throw through certain objects, but once you know which ones you can, the generosity of the hitboxes is definitely in her favor. She's a very fun killer, but unfortunately spaghetti-coded, just like many other aspects of this game.
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You're forgetting Pig and Hag. ;)
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Yeah exactly Peanits I know you are also a huntress main.
I play Huntress a lot and I was a former semi-pro Overwatch gamer. I dropped Overwatch and came here. Huntress is the first killer I mastered. She is very powerful but also very map dependent. Because of her 110% movement speed, she can be abused at some very simple tiles like these debris loops in the coldwind farm. She also suffers from low map pressure. So many times I run pop on Huntress, got a three gen, hooked a guy, ran towards the gen, the last two guys just pop it in front of my face. If I can be any faster, it’s a 4K for me. But because of the 110% speed to traverse the map, it becomes a 3 escape.
Therefore when it comes to “how to win as huntress”, I would always say that “ you have to slug to 4K”. Huntress excels at slugging and you have to maximize this potential. If you don’t slug, you either proxy camp or tunnel or get a small outdoor map like coal tower.
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Nurse is basically Huntress with slightly longer range and hatchets that go through walls. You need even more skill to play nurse, but at top level there is no other way nurse would lose, even to Spirit
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Hag is complicated.
And Pig is a mix of everything making it difficult to say whether or not she is better or worse than another Killer.
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The god window at the central structure is a legit infinite thanks to the awful chase system, so unless the upper gen is completed, survivors can just keep running you at that building.
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True about Hag. Also true that Pig is a mix, but she IS better than everyone else. ;)
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I prefer Huntress' pallet drop frustrations over Pigs' pallet drop squeak, I find Huntress more endearing :3
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If the huntress can aim and calculate the distance to throw the hatchet she good. The problem is map reliant.
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no, she can still be screwed over by rng and certain structures can be actual infinites against her (house of pain on lampkin lane and badham)
imo, nurse is still the best killer in the game. she still ignores everything a survivor has to use in a chase so a lot becomes moot.
edit: also by rng i meant like the house structures and many maps, shes very map dependent.
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Nurse is like clown in her current state. Strong in a 1vs1 and weak in 4vs1. She lost her ability to navigate the map, which is super important to be a good killer in DBD. Sure a good nurse can absolutely wreck a survivor, but so many things hard counter her now. Iron will, Sprint Burst, Stealth, Large Maps. A good nurse is about as good as a good clown. Playable at red ranks but only if you've mastered them. Nurse may just be the weakest killer in Dead by Daylight
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Clown really isn’t strong in a 1v1, he’s the easiest killer to get chased by imo.
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i disagree with that, Nurse still excels in 1v1s which is what makes her strength the same as before. getting really quick downs gives you pressure, which helps slow the game down a lot. also she can still navigate the map fairly quickly, just not as fast as before her nerf.
with Clown, hes good at 1v1s, but he doesnt excel at them. most of the time his bottles can just be countered by dropping the pallet early, and not being greedy at really unsafe loops anyway.
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I actually ran a huntress around for 4 gens on Lery's using the hold-W tech. That was hilarious, because she should've just interrupted the gens we ran by countless time. Instead, she focused on me, but my having just a bit of a headstart and breaking LoS were her undoing. She was purple rank iirc.
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No. She would be like 4thish if played really well. A one trick nurse main will still be stronger than any other killer and it isn't very close
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Not the best, but among the best. I would rate her the most difficult to achieve toptier status. But i find her better against good survivors than Billy. Having consistent short chases is more beneficial than shorter travel times between hooks, against good teams. Huntress is made to down good survivors, while Billy is perfect for snowballing potatoes.
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Freddy is better.
Literally if every killer plays perfectly IMO Freddy is potentially unbeatable.
Full map teleport.
Snares that shut down every loop in the game bar god pallets.
Built in Oblivious.
Built in slow down mechanics.
Freddy has everything. Throw some tracking perks on him with a one shot somewhere maybe and he's god tier.
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She used to be top 3 when maps that screwed her over were rare.
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Found the former 3 blink range nurse.
She's still the most powerful killer in the game, full stop. The only difference now is that she actually has to plan out her blinks, rather than just whiff over and over again until she finally landed a hit. Good nurses are just as good, the only ones who think new nurse is bad (or somehow loses to Sprint Burst or "just break chase and hide") were bad nurses crutching on addons.
As for Huntress, on good huntress maps like Blood Lodge she's godly, especially in the right hands. But certain maps are just auto losses for her. If we count every killer on their best map I think she's top 3, otherwise she's around 6th or 7th, just about tied with Demo. Nurse, Spirit, Billy, Oni, Freddie and Hag are all better than her when all maps are considered.
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Yes, this is what I think
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Uff not an autolose for sure. She has very good maps and some bad ones, but still she is stronger than most killers on those maps
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The only thing that makes Fredward not S tier like Nurse is that the strength of his power is somewhat dictated by if survivors are asleep or not, which is to a small degree in the survivors' control. Other than that, with optimal build and addons, I think he's even better than Spirit. Boring as all hell to play as and against, but very very good.
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Maps like Hawkins or the Game, against good survivors, are borderline unwinnable as Huntress. She's just a 110 killer with no power at that point.
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I don't think so. You can win even without going fully tryhard, if you add slug, proxy, etc...
Actually hawkins just has unsafe loops.
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It's not as in survivor's control as other killer powers. Literally all you need to do is hit them and put them asleep. And while they can go wake up or fail skill checks that takes time, either directly by making them take time to find clocks/other survivors or by increasing action time with failed skill checks.
His base teleport is on a 45 second cooldown. You get up to 60% cooldown reduction if everyone is asleep, which comes out to 30 seconds. Even if they stay awake, 45 seconds isn't very long to wait. If used correctly the pros greatly outweigh the cons.
He is indeed S tier. He has too many tools to be anything else.
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