Oh god please nerf the clown!
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I think he's fine the way he is. They actually had to give him a buff before leaving PTB because he was too weak I do believe.
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fluffybunny said:
I think he's fine the way he is. They actually had to give him a buff before leaving PTB because he was too weak I do believe.
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The clown is fine as he is, you can easily dodge his bottles. I think he is great to stop looping and wasting time. There are time where I win against him and there are time I don’t. I believe he is fairly balanced.10
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a 10% speed decrease are you insane? the slowest killer is nurse at 96% because well she can go 333% speed while blinking. But he isnt even as fast as hag or huntress at 110% that would make it impossible for him to counter looping and even if he hit someone with the hindered he wont catch up with them in time anyway.
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I feel like he's in a pretty good spot, personally. I've gone up against some nasty clowns who know how to zone out an area and force you somewhere less ideal. I think the biggest challenge to mastering him is map knowledge and being able to think on the fly. If someone's got that nailed down and they're able to identify the best places for survivors to go and they're able to gas 'em up, I really feel like they're just a good killer at that point, and they'd probably be wrecking ya' with anything else.
I wouldn't say this is the fault of the clown being overpowered though, I would say they're just a really good player. If they're able to pull off 300 IQ strats on the fly, we also have to learn how to counter that and outsmart them. The vast majority I've seen though are fairly predictable and easy to avoid. They'll toss gas in wide open areas with multiple pallets around, then run out and have to reload mid-chase.
The time they lose from throwing a bottle is pretty significant, so if you can move unpredictably, you can usually go a less ideal route and avoid the gas.
RE: That speed:
It's important to remember that movement speed in this game isn't relative to zero, it's relative to the survivor's movement speed. In other words, it's not 115% vs. 0%, it's 115% vs. 100%. Lowering his movement speed that much essentially means your chases are going to take three times longer. This also means that even if you do hit survivors with your gas, you're looking a 105% vs. 85%. In other words, you'd be moving 20% faster while they're hindered, as compared to 15% faster like any other 4.6m/s killer. AKA you'll be moving significantly slower most of the time to move slightly faster some of the time.4 -
reduce his speed to 105%
you do understand that would make him worse than Freddy tier?
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When one of the most balanced killers is apparently an issue
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Global said:
a 10% speed decrease are you insane? the slowest killer is nurse at 96% because well she can go 333% speed while blinking. But he isnt even as fast as hag or huntress at 110% that would make it impossible for him to counter looping and even if he hit someone with the hindered he wont catch up with them in time anyway.
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@RotBb said:
Global said:a 10% speed decrease are you insane? the slowest killer is nurse at 96% because well she can go 333% speed while blinking. But he isnt even as fast as hag or huntress at 110% that would make it impossible for him to counter looping and even if he hit someone with the hindered he wont catch up with them in time anyway.
His power is slowing survivors.
go chase people with the hag without using her power if you want to see how impactful even 5% reduced MS is
what you are proposing isn't a "tiny nerf" it's absolutely gutting the killer into absolute garbage, worse than even Freddy tier9 -
Hes fine - and very fun to play/play against. Keep it how it is. Become a better survivor
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SenzuDuck said:1
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Clown can be rather brutal but he is balanced.2
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Keep in mind: 85% vs 105% is only a 20% movement speed difference. Compare that to a base 4.6m/s movement speed killer, which is 115% vs. 100% (15% difference).
You'd be three times slower in chases, and only sometimes you'd be slightly faster (33%). At that point you'd be shooting yourself in the foot to play the clown.
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yes yesssss and please nerf piggy has traps that kills u, fredy has wallhack and a claw and Wraith is invisible
lmaoThis game don't should to be balanced for players rank 21 who doesn't have any skills.
Why u don't try to learn to playing first? Then maybe u can ask some changes.
It's a suggestion but anyway nobody is going to take u seriously 'Clown is balanced'3 -
Enough with nerfing any killer. We finally have a killer that while not Nurse level, is still really good on a base level. As good imo as Hag and Billy.
Git gud.1 -
Just FYI Hindered is Hindered. Clowns bottles do the same as Huntress yew seeds, but Clown can increase the effect with an add-on.
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Clown is fine. Yes, he is difficult to escape from especially if he is played by someone skilled but I find that it is still fun to play against him, it is challenging but not frustraiting. The Hag imo is by far worse and would need a nerf or rather not a nerf but survivors should be made more aware of how to play against her as I still see Rank 5 survivors who do not know that you have to crouch on her traps to unhook someone and ruin the game for everyone else with that.0
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Clown is fine and the most balanced killer in DBD IMO. Please just, you know, be stealthy instead of trying to pallet loop him.1
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@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.Clown is mid tier, hes played at the same level as freddy, chill out man.
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@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.Clown is mid tier, hes played at the same level as freddy, chill out man.
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@akbays35 said:
@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.Clown is mid tier, hes played at the same level as freddy, chill out man.
In what world is Freddy mid tier and not absolute trash tier.
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@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.105%? I guess you have less than 20 hours in this game?
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RSB said:
@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.105%? I guess you have less than 20 hours in this game?
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@RotBb said:
RSB said:@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.
105%? I guess you have less than 20 hours in this game?
I have +500 hours, been on consol sinse freddy cane out.
You are either lying, or you spend this 500 hours playing survivor on rank 20, because with sane mind you would not like to nerf clown to 105% of speed. Try playing T1 Myers vs pallet loopers, you will be literally slower than them.
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RSB said:
@RotBb said:
RSB said:@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.
105%? I guess you have less than 20 hours in this game?
I have +500 hours, been on consol sinse freddy cane out.
You are either lying, or you spend this 500 hours playing survivor on rank 20, because with sane mind you would not like to nerf clown to 105% of speed. Try playing T1 Myers vs pallet loopers, you will be literally slower than them.
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@RotBb said:
RSB said:@RotBb said:
RSB said:
@RotBb said: Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability. 105%? I guess you have less than 20 hours in this game?
I have +500 hours, been on consol sinse freddy cane out.
You are either lying, or you spend this 500 hours playing survivor on rank 20, because with sane mind you would not like to nerf clown to 105% of speed. Try playing T1 Myers vs pallet loopers, you will be literally slower than them.
Actually, I got to rank one survivor and killer last season. That isn’t the buff I said wanted as final, that was an idea. The point of the forums are to discuss ideas and report problems. Nerf him to 110% and weaken the hinderence a little, as in make survivors have the ability to fast vault in the gas.
The question is why would you like to nerf mid-tier killer, when the survivors are currently overpowered? And you propose a horrendal nerf, that would make him the wost killer in this game for the rest of his mere life.
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RSB said:
@RotBb said:
RSB said:@RotBb said:
RSB said:
@RotBb said: Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability. 105%? I guess you have less than 20 hours in this game?
I have +500 hours, been on consol sinse freddy cane out.
You are either lying, or you spend this 500 hours playing survivor on rank 20, because with sane mind you would not like to nerf clown to 105% of speed. Try playing T1 Myers vs pallet loopers, you will be literally slower than them.
Actually, I got to rank one survivor and killer last season. That isn’t the buff I said wanted as final, that was an idea. The point of the forums are to discuss ideas and report problems. Nerf him to 110% and weaken the hinderence a little, as in make survivors have the ability to fast vault in the gas.
The question is why would you like to nerf mid-tier killer, when the survivors are currently overpowered? And you propose a horrendal nerf, that would make him the wost killer in this game for the rest of his mere life.
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@RotBb said:
Global said:a 10% speed decrease are you insane? the slowest killer is nurse at 96% because well she can go 333% speed while blinking. But he isnt even as fast as hag or huntress at 110% that would make it impossible for him to counter looping and even if he hit someone with the hindered he wont catch up with them in time anyway.
His power is slowing survivors.
That doesnt mean you have to slow him down how about flahlights or stypics those are way more powerful then his ability because the can blind and save people and get you up free health in less than a second.
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@RotBb said:
RSB said:@RotBb said:
RSB said:
@RotBb said: RSB said:
@RotBb said: Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability. 105%? I guess you have less than 20 hours in this game?
I have +500 hours, been on consol sinse freddy cane out. You are either lying, or you spend this 500 hours playing survivor on rank 20, because with sane mind you would not like to nerf clown to 105% of speed. Try playing T1 Myers vs pallet loopers, you will be literally slower than them.
Actually, I got to rank one survivor and killer last season. That isn’t the buff I said wanted as final, that was an idea. The point of the forums are to discuss ideas and report problems. Nerf him to 110% and weaken the hinderence a little, as in make survivors have the ability to fast vault in the gas.
The question is why would you like to nerf mid-tier killer, when the survivors are currently overpowered? And you propose a horrendal nerf, that would make him the wost killer in this game for the rest of his mere life.
Because survivors are not op atm. The exhaustion nerf and pallet change have actually put killers in the power role. A group of rando survivors are not as powerful as the killer, the SWF teams are a problem, but there are programms to detect it.
Ah, ok this explains a lot about this whole topic
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@RotBb said:
RSB said:@RotBb said:
RSB said:
@RotBb said: RSB said:
@RotBb said: Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability. 105%? I guess you have less than 20 hours in this game?
I have +500 hours, been on consol sinse freddy cane out. You are either lying, or you spend this 500 hours playing survivor on rank 20, because with sane mind you would not like to nerf clown to 105% of speed. Try playing T1 Myers vs pallet loopers, you will be literally slower than them.
Actually, I got to rank one survivor and killer last season. That isn’t the buff I said wanted as final, that was an idea. The point of the forums are to discuss ideas and report problems. Nerf him to 110% and weaken the hinderence a little, as in make survivors have the ability to fast vault in the gas.
The question is why would you like to nerf mid-tier killer, when the survivors are currently overpowered? And you propose a horrendal nerf, that would make him the wost killer in this game for the rest of his mere life.
Because survivors are not op atm. The exhaustion nerf and pallet change have actually put killers in the power role. A group of rando survivors are not as powerful as the killer, the SWF teams are a problem, but there are programms to detect it.
you havent played killer past rank 16 have you? I highly doubt youve gotten any were near rank 1 as killer or you just never bought and played clown.
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@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.He is so weak that nobody plays him already.
Why are you survivors all so keen on versing nurses only?0 -
@Master said:
@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.He is so weak that nobody plays him already.
Why are you survivors all so keen on versing nurses only?Because then, when every killer will be forced to play Nurse, they can whine even harder how OP she is, even everybody plays her now, and the devs can finally nerf her.
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@RSB said:
@Master said:
@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.He is so weak that nobody plays him already.
Why are you survivors all so keen on versing nurses only?Because then, when every killer will be forced to play Nurse, they can whine even harder how OP she is, even everybody plays her now, and the devs can finally nerf her.
They cant do that because they know very well, if they do that they lose the remaining experienced killer base.
And without killers, the survivors have noone to play with^^0 -
@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.He is trolling. A person can't be this stupid.
P.S. If you are not trolling and being dead serious, even if you don't understand how ridiculous your suggestion is, just pretend like you are trolling so you won't be seen as a moron.
Trapper has %115 movement speed.
Survivors have %100 ms while running.
The gap is %15.
Let's say that we nerfed the clown and his movement speed is %105 right now.
You hit the survivor so the gap between you and the survivor is %20. You are faster than trapper only by %5.
Is this a killer's power? Making him %5 faster than other killers? Not all the time by the way, only while survivors are intoxicated.Please just say you are joking.
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@Delfador said:
@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.He is trolling. A person can't be this stupid.
P.S. If you are not trolling and being dead serious, even if you don't understand how ridiculous your suggestion is, just pretend like you are trolling so you won't be seen as a moron.
Trapper has %115 movement speed.
Survivors have %100 ms while running.
The gap is %15.
Let's say that we nerfed the clown and his movement speed is %105 right now.
You hit the survivor so the gap between you and the survivor is %20. You are faster than trapper only by %5.
Is this a killer's power? Making him %5 faster than other killers? Not all the time by the way, only while survivors are intoxicated.Please just say you are joking.
Of course he is joking. In this forum you should be able to distinguish between a bait and a survivor main
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@Master said:
@Delfador said:
@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.He is trolling. A person can't be this stupid.
P.S. If you are not trolling and being dead serious, even if you don't understand how ridiculous your suggestion is, just pretend like you are trolling so you won't be seen as a moron.
Trapper has %115 movement speed.
Survivors have %100 ms while running.
The gap is %15.
Let's say that we nerfed the clown and his movement speed is %105 right now.
You hit the survivor so the gap between you and the survivor is %20. You are faster than trapper only by %5.
Is this a killer's power? Making him %5 faster than other killers? Not all the time by the way, only while survivors are intoxicated.Please just say you are joking.
Of course he is joking. In this forum you should be able to distinguish between a bait and a survivor main
In the past internet was full of people who were smart and sarcastic. It is really difficult to distinguish people and tell who is who right now. It is just sad.
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@RotBb said:
fluffybunny said:I think he's fine the way he is. They actually had to give him a buff before leaving PTB because he was too weak I do believe.
The buff was that survivors who were hindered didn’t have collision. All they did was add collisions.
WRONG! The buff was the ability to charge bottles without decreased speed.
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@RotBb said:
fluffybunny said:I think he's fine the way he is. They actually had to give him a buff before leaving PTB because he was too weak I do believe.
The buff was that survivors who were hindered didn’t have collision. All they did was add collisions.
WRONG! The buff was the ability to charge bottles without decreased speed.
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People should really play equally as survivor/killer before making suggestions.
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pandorayr said:
yes yesssss and please nerf piggy has traps that kills u, fredy has wallhack and a claw and Wraith is invisible
lmaoThis game don't should to be balanced for players rank 21 who doesn't have any skills.
Why u don't try to learn to playing first? Then maybe u can ask some changes.
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@Delfador said:
@Master said:
@Delfador said:
@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.He is trolling. A person can't be this stupid.
P.S. If you are not trolling and being dead serious, even if you don't understand how ridiculous your suggestion is, just pretend like you are trolling so you won't be seen as a moron.
Trapper has %115 movement speed.
Survivors have %100 ms while running.
The gap is %15.
Let's say that we nerfed the clown and his movement speed is %105 right now.
You hit the survivor so the gap between you and the survivor is %20. You are faster than trapper only by %5.
Is this a killer's power? Making him %5 faster than other killers? Not all the time by the way, only while survivors are intoxicated.Please just say you are joking.
Of course he is joking. In this forum you should be able to distinguish between a bait and a survivor main
In the past internet was full of people who were smart and sarcastic. It is really difficult to distinguish people and tell who is who right now. It is just sad.
Its quite easy. A survivor main will mostly insult you and dont provide any arguments.
Look at this guy:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.
A survivor main would never ask for a minor nerf, anything. Also unbelievably fast is a term thats never used by a survivor.
Also there are the key words missing, a survivor main would use, OP, baby killer, easy, ez 4k, entitled to kill, camp, tunnel sth in that direction
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The clown is ok as a killer, he is certainly no nurse but can pull some moves as a killer. He is well balanced the way he is.
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@Master said:
@Delfador said:
@Master said:
@Delfador said:
@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.He is trolling. A person can't be this stupid.
P.S. If you are not trolling and being dead serious, even if you don't understand how ridiculous your suggestion is, just pretend like you are trolling so you won't be seen as a moron.
Trapper has %115 movement speed.
Survivors have %100 ms while running.
The gap is %15.
Let's say that we nerfed the clown and his movement speed is %105 right now.
You hit the survivor so the gap between you and the survivor is %20. You are faster than trapper only by %5.
Is this a killer's power? Making him %5 faster than other killers? Not all the time by the way, only while survivors are intoxicated.Please just say you are joking.
Of course he is joking. In this forum you should be able to distinguish between a bait and a survivor main
In the past internet was full of people who were smart and sarcastic. It is really difficult to distinguish people and tell who is who right now. It is just sad.
Its quite easy. A survivor main will mostly insult you and dont provide any arguments.
Look at this guy:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.
A survivor main would never ask for a minor nerf, anything. Also unbelievably fast is a term thats never used by a survivor.
Also there are the key words missing, a survivor main would use, OP, baby killer, easy, ez 4k, entitled to kill, camp, tunnel sth in that direction
Do not forget about "DUUUUD, nurse OP, killers wants us to run in a straight line, just break the pallet, git gud"
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@RSB said:
@Master said:
@Delfador said:
@Master said:
@Delfador said:
@RotBb said:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.He is trolling. A person can't be this stupid.
P.S. If you are not trolling and being dead serious, even if you don't understand how ridiculous your suggestion is, just pretend like you are trolling so you won't be seen as a moron.
Trapper has %115 movement speed.
Survivors have %100 ms while running.
The gap is %15.
Let's say that we nerfed the clown and his movement speed is %105 right now.
You hit the survivor so the gap between you and the survivor is %20. You are faster than trapper only by %5.
Is this a killer's power? Making him %5 faster than other killers? Not all the time by the way, only while survivors are intoxicated.Please just say you are joking.
Of course he is joking. In this forum you should be able to distinguish between a bait and a survivor main
In the past internet was full of people who were smart and sarcastic. It is really difficult to distinguish people and tell who is who right now. It is just sad.
Its quite easy. A survivor main will mostly insult you and dont provide any arguments.
Look at this guy:
Just a minor nerf! Please! Anything! His power and speed make him unbelievably fast! Combine it with Michaels perks, and he is a step below the nurse. Just reduce his speed to 105%. All we need. Or even reduce his hinderence to the ability of the huntress add-on. The clown is too fast for his B I G C H O N K status. He is way too fast for his ability.
A survivor main would never ask for a minor nerf, anything. Also unbelievably fast is a term thats never used by a survivor.
Also there are the key words missing, a survivor main would use, OP, baby killer, easy, ez 4k, entitled to kill, camp, tunnel sth in that direction
Do not forget about "DUUUUD, nurse OP, killers wants us to run in a straight line, just break the pallet, git gud"
Please dont mention that word duuuud, it reminds me too much of that manchild called ochido
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