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Is the MMR active without warning?

TheBus4K
TheBus4K Member Posts: 256
edited June 2021 in General Discussions

I've been playing with the Killers with whom I have the most ability for some time (Demo, Hag, Huntress, Spirit, Deathslinger...), and normally, Spirit included, it shows that I play against experienced Survivors, the problem is that today I played three games with the Wraith (which I haven't played for 2 years) because I wanted to test the buff they made... and god, I faced absurdly bad Survivors, not the typical ones that are Rank 1 and sometimes do stupid things, they were Survivors that really seemed like they had been played for 20 hours.

This makes me think that the MMR is active, because if when I play Killers that I frequent (and I think I am something good with them) I face decent Survivors and then a Killer that I haven't played in 2 years (not even 2 years ago I played it a lot) I face against Survivors who seem to have just bought the game...

It wasn't even the typical thing that his team had Rank 1 and then Low Ranks, no, they were all low Ranks:


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  • TheBus4K
    TheBus4K Member Posts: 256

    I hope so, I just played a fourth game and it's been more of the same, but hey, It will be that I have "good luck" (which isn't good luck either because against bad survivors I don't improve with the Killer and I barely get bloodpoints)...

  • landromat
    landromat Member Posts: 2,193

    Nah just you playing on server with not enough red rank players

  • CoalTower
    CoalTower Member Posts: 1,730

    That awkward moment when we find out that they haven't even started yet and are just saying they have to appease us😬

  • MongolPSR
    MongolPSR Member Posts: 1,032
  • MongolPSR
    MongolPSR Member Posts: 1,032
  • ryanb122197
    ryanb122197 Member Posts: 77

    and here I thought almo was fired lol

  • SloppyVoldemort
    SloppyVoldemort Member Posts: 452

    Sometimes I believe it as well, that MMR is active. But since the dev said it isn't, I guess it's not.

  • fogdonkey
    fogdonkey Member Posts: 1,567

    I wouldn't be surprised if it would be activated on a single server or for a random subset of players. The devs need to be able to test it and experiment with it somehow.

    (That's how I would do it.)

  • ALostPuppy
    ALostPuppy Member Posts: 3,398
    edited June 2021

    Probably just a coincidence. This isn't even how MMR should work for DbD when it's on. Killer fundamentals carry over to each killer and it doesn't really matter what killer you play if you're good, you're gonna do well with that killer because the mechanical skill floor is so low. You should be getting roughly the same-skilled survivors with every killer, and on your main you get slightly more-skilled. If this isn't how it's gonna work then it's gonna be a disaster but I hope they've thought about how good players have actually become at this game for once.

  • TheBus4K
    TheBus4K Member Posts: 256

    "You should be getting roughly the same-skilled survivors with every killer, and on your main you get slightly more-skilled."

    What nonsense is this? They're supposedly going to add the MMR on every Killer, right? So if I'm horrible with a certain Killer, am I still going to face good Survivors?

    I don't see the point, I thought that if I was bad with a Killer (or had never played it), I would face low-level Survivors, which is what seems most logical to me, the problem with Ranks' system is that if I want to practice with a Killer and I constantly face against good Survivors, it's almost impossible to learn (and also the desire to learn it takes away), with the MMR I thought, and I think it's the most logical thing, that I would face Survivors of "low level "(I'm not referring to Survivors that have 20 hours of play either, but I don't see any reason to face one of 2k hours).

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,377

    I know a dev answered already, but I'm with OP. It certainly *feels* like it's on. I'm getting absolute gamers when I play Nurse and my Nurse queues are noticeably longer than with other killers.

  • reeves7
    reeves7 Member Posts: 306

    pretty sure mmr is always active,if they tell people when mmr is active then most killers will throw the game away to be matched with low rank survivors

  • TheBus4K
    TheBus4K Member Posts: 256

    "Always" I doubt it, but I'm pretty sure they will do tests without warning, because after all, warning and without warning you get different results, since, as you say, there are people who simply play badly to reduce their MMR or simply play differently.

    I don't know, it just seems weird to me that coincidentally with the Wraith, which I haven't played for two years and barely played it then, I play against bad Survivors and when I play with the Killers that I'm best at, I face good Survivors or even SWF.

  • Jasix
    Jasix Member Posts: 1,245

    Yeah because Almo and all the other Devs and Mods who have responded to all the other threads like this are lying to us.....


    Or maybe - you guys just need to put your hats on..... that seems more likely.

  • TheBus4K
    TheBus4K Member Posts: 256

    Better than believing everything, especially if it's from BHVR.

  • RiskyKara
    RiskyKara Member Posts: 804

    Eh. I'm willing to believe that they'd lie to us to maintain the integrity of an invisible test.

    I'd be willing to lie to you for a whole lot less at stake.

  • fogdonkey
    fogdonkey Member Posts: 1,567

    Maybe they are aiming for the June 15th RE DLC release date.

  • fogdonkey
    fogdonkey Member Posts: 1,567

    Because they will say "No" even if they are temporarily testing it or doing some A/B testing or experiment.

    When they say "No" it just means that it was not officially activated.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675
    edited June 2021

    Because they will say "No" even if they are temporarily testing it or doing some A/B testing or experiment.

    The last temporary test had an announcement, with start and end dates and times and everything. Kinda blows your claim out of the water.

    When they say "No" it just means that it was not officially activated.

    Oddly enough, they'd also say "no" if it was, in fact, off.

    Like I asked OP, if your starting position is that the people who can confirm/deny something are lying if they disagree with you, then why ask? You're set in your position, there's no way anyone can convince you you're wrong if you're just going to assume they're lying/wrong if they tell you something that goes against your position.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 9,228

    Devs will tell us if its on. They did the last time and it was a clear change to the match making.

    Lets stop with the conspiracy theories.

  • fogdonkey
    fogdonkey Member Posts: 1,567

    No need to believe me.

    Btw I also correctly predicted the details of the RE chapter.

  • A_Skinny_Legend
    A_Skinny_Legend Member Posts: 919

    Not for me, not that I notice because even when mmr was on, it wouldn't matter if a teammate was rank 18, they'd still play well. At least that was my experience.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    So either you have an inside source, or you happened to correctly predict the chapter was going to have the most iconic characters in Resident Evil, like most people believed.

  • ALostPuppy
    ALostPuppy Member Posts: 3,398
    edited June 2021

    Your fundamental knowledge of DbD carries over to every killer you play, regardless of how much you play them. You should be getting similar-ish results with every killer if you're a good player, and slightly better results with the killer you main. If MMR started at a low score for a killer you don't play that would be terrible for the game and not a logical system at all. An example: Say you almost never play Wraith, but you're a good player and you play a lot of Trapper, Clown, whatever and do really well. You shouldn't be put against bad survivors as Wraith just because you don't play him much, because that's not fair. You'd stomp those survivors without even breaking a sweat because you're a good killer player in general and those skills carry over to every killer.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    MMR will be killer-specific, though. It won't be completely reset since some skills do carry over, as you mentioned, but each killer will have their own MMR. Survivors won't because survivors are skins; the gameplay is identical for every one of them.

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 23,247

    No, when we say no, it actually means no - we've always been completely upfront with the MMR test and have announced when they're active and we will continue to do that.

  • Jasix
    Jasix Member Posts: 1,245

    You and 117 other random posters.

    And no - I don't believe you - I believe the Mods and Devs.

  • Kilmeran
    Kilmeran Member Posts: 3,142

    At the rate they're going, MMR for DbD should be active around the same time Overwatch 2 sees a release from Blizzard.

    My 11-year-old should be in college by the time either happens.