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DbD has become increasingly hostile towards weaker rigs
Back when I started (early 2018) I still was able to play the game without any significant problems on my machine (16 GB RAM / 2 GB VRAM) but nowadays this has become pretty much impossible. The several visual updates (in particular to the various maps) have led to crazy performance issues on my end and no amount of setting modifications seem to be able to remedy this.
There needs to be a setting below "low", they might as well call it "potato" or "console" but as long as it exists I'll be satisfied. Currenlty I'm experiencing multiple freezes during a match which last up to 5 seconds (!) each. These can occcur during chases, kicking gens and pallets or by simply traversing the map. It makes the game borderline unplayable for me and that's without even considering the framerate. I'm glad if I can even keep a stable 30 fps with the graphics card I have.
Please tell me I'm not the only one who'd really like to see an optimization for lower end machines. My only alternative would be to get a brandnew pc because my mainboard can't support any newer graphics cards due it being a DDR3 device.
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I don't understand how your motherboard cant use a faster GPU "due it being a DDR3 device"? That doesn't make much sense but I do understand it does limit how much of an upgrade makes sense as you don't want to bottleneck a new GPU.
If you are still running a GPU of any kind with 2GB of VRAM, it really is time to think about upgrading as it is only going to get worse from here. DBD isn't the most optimised game I will grant you that but you will find many games are going to give you problems with such a small amount of VRAM so you cant really blame DBD for that.
Time to upgrade or you just have to live with it I am afraid
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They will never optimize the game, only make it more and more demanding for what are at best minor improvements in graphics. So yeah, upgrade to make up for BHVR's inability and unwillingness to do so.
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I dont know whats you problem. My mainboard is DDR3 and its like 5 years old, i have just 8GB RAM, my GPU is just a 1050ti and the game runs well on high setting at 55-60 fps. just some drops and freezes from time to time, buts thats most likely cause my CPU runs at 100% at those times, cause its old too. its fairly playable like 95% of the time.
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Welcome to the old gen console experience
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I don't think that telling people to upgrade to 2022 technology in order to play a 2016 game is a good argument
My PC is pretty good: Ryzen 7 3700x, Nvidia rtx 2700 super, SSD M2 drive, 32GB 3600MHz ram. I still get stuttering and frame drops, at any quality. This is a game problem, not a PC problem
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Our PC cousins here do not seem to be apprappreciating console mode I see...
And to our PC cousins I say just imagine being locked at Ultra settings on some consoles that were built as far back as 2013.
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Honestly, I think most of the reworks just made maps look worse lmao. Especially the mcmillan ones
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We still don't have V-sync or options to change individual resource hog settings like sun flare etc.
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Well I can see what's going on, your graphics card has twice as much VRAM (4 GB instead of 2 GB), that makes a huge difference.
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I never once mentioned 2022 technology, I also said the game is not well optimised at all (I have a 5800x and 3080Ti and also get bad FPS drops on maps like RPD for example). However any graphics card with only 2GB of VRAM is very out of date and will struggle in many games, not just DBD. I can't think of a recent 2GB GPU so I assume it is something really old like a GTX 950 or something REALLY bad like a 1030.
The OP can still upgrade their GPU with something from the used market and if they are still on a card with 2GB of VRAM then pretty much anything fairly recent will be an upgrade.
FPS drops happen to all of us no matter how strong your PC is but you can at least get a fairly good experience with a newer card with more than 2GB VRAM as 2GB just doesn't cut it and hasn't really for years now.
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To be fair, my 2 GB VRAM card (Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050) was able to play RE7 and the RE2+3 remakes with no issues. So I'm quite confused why a game from 2016 (DbD) is causing such issues, the game simply has to be extremely unoptimized.
I'm currently looking into upgrade options but I'm not sure if they will work. I assume a DDR3 mainboard would still run with modern graphics cards (GDDR5/6) as long as the thing fits in there?
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I'm playing on an old machine (1080, 16Gb RAM) and it runs fine for me; better than it used to
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DbD is heavier on CPU rather than GPU - which is why having low/medium/high would not change anything for consoles with regards to framerates etc.
Part of the problem is that the GPU's are getting older and might not be quite so reliable as they used to be, and yes they will definitely start to struggle with newer games if you wish to play on higher graphical settings. I'm still running a 1070Ti in my PC and so far I've not had any issues with any game, but it's only a matter of time.
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Optimise your game. Fix the coding.
It's been 6 years too long. DBD, to this day, is the ONLY game that consistently overheats my PS4 within a matter of one/two games - and there are many games which are far more demanding in terms of map area and graphics that take much longer to do what DBD does in just 30 minutes of playtime.
If games like GTA, Overwatch or any RPG game (say Dragon's age) with larger scale maps, larger scale player teams and larger scale graphical details can run smoothly then DBD has no excuse. My PC isn't even a year old, has some of the freshest parts available yet it only experiences jittering and freeze frames on THIS game.
Stop giving the game graphical updates and details if you're not willing to work on the longest standing issue in the game yet - which is the performance.
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With each new patch/ chapter, everyone has to wait for the download / copying of files / instillation, etc.
Just found it interesting to think of all the time we’ve spent in our lives, waiting for all of these updates; not just in DBD, but in any of the games we’ve played.
Waiting can be tedious and unnerving, coupled with the fact that we as humans are all confined within time and it’s seemingly malicious frames... drains the soul a bit, imo😔
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Yes but the RE games are not that demanding and you have to remember they are scripted so can be well optimised very easily. They were never very demanding and I remember playing RE7 on my GTX970 at 1440p (using DSR at the time) with no problems.
You have to remember that DBD has had a graphical upgrade since it was released, as hardware has improved dramatically since 2016. The UE4 engine it runs on was never kind to weaker hardware but at some point the game needed to update its look (whether you like the aesthetic decisions or not) to keep up with next gen consoles etc.
Yes of course you can upgrade your graphics card using older motherboard chipsets, the only thing to watch out for is that you aren't buying a GPU that is too powerful for your CPU, otherwise it is just wasted money. But even then it wont hurt, it just isn't good value.
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2G of VRAM? What GPU are we talking about here?
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I assume this CPU should be able to work with a 6 GB VRAM card? Or should I rather stick with a 4 GB VRAM one? I'll do some shopping tomorrow and I'd appreciate any recommendations.
I currently have a Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 which came with my computer.
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That CPU will probably bottleneck with a higher GPU. It is level with the minimum required CPU to run the game and that's set to run at low - not guaranteed at 60fps (that's usually in-line for required specs).
It might be better to look at changing the CPU before the GPU.
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this is a common issue with live service games
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Rewrite that code. This is what we call settling for less.
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Your CPU and your motherboard have almost no ability to restrict what GPU you put in, as long as the GPU is one made in like... the past 18 years? GPUs use PCI Express connections, the amount of VRAM and type of memory on the GPU don't matter to your CPU. All it knows is that the driver is telling it to send data here to make the pictures happen.
You could put a 3090ti in there and it'd work. It would be bottlenecked horribly because your CPU can't keep up with the amount of frames the GPU is able to process, but it would work.
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The actual chip of the GPU is what matters more, most modern cards will come with at least 6GB of VRAM and the ones that only have 4 are best avoided imo, unless you really are on a budget. I would avoid the 10xx series cards now and look at a 2060 minimum, 2070 if you can afford it
But there is no getting away from the fact your CPU is very weak, so ultimately you are going to really look at a new system. But for gaming your GPU is always the most important factor, though CPU can have more or less importance depending on the game (flight sims or games with complex telemetry etc will be more CPU heavy than basic RPG or FPS type games like Doom etc). DBD does like a decent CPU that is for sure but even with a fast 8 core it still stutters and performs badly at times...
The 1050 was always an awful GPU in all honesty, so if you got by with it for all these years then you did well. Ideally it is time to upgrade but if you really can only do one thing I would say GPU first, as most games are harder on the GPU than CPU.
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let’s be realistic here, dbd isn’t a 2016 game, you can’t say that graphically and technically the game is the exact same as in 2016
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Mind sharing some of your magic with me? I am running a 3080 with a Ryzen 5900X and this game drops to 48 FPS every few seconds and getting a consistently good frame rate is impossible.
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I wish I had the tech knowledge to do that - my PC is weaker than yours (am also on Ryzen) but I genuinely never get fps drops. I've not unlocked my fps or anything and it's solid at 60 on Ultra.
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Couldn't of said it better myself
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Something I found out recently, if you have a "gaming" mouse that has a poll rating (the amount of times it communicates with your PC per second) if you have it too high it can severely tank the FPS, try finding that setting on your mouse if it's a gamery one.
And don't get confused, I do NOT mean the DPI setting.
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Oh dear lord i remember that crap.
I set my mouse poll ratio to the lowest so i can play an MMO without fps drops, maybe that's why DbD is smooth for me.
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Of course a confrontational response will be completely ignored by them though, doesn't surprise me after they were quick to strip Dowsey from everything they gave him just bc of a joke he made.
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Huh. I run a ye Olde rx580 and a ryzen 5 3500x and I barely touch 50% usage on either at 60 fps max everything. However before I had a somewhat older, but still very capable A10 4 core 4.0 processor and it started to give problems with games and software it didn't before and should not. Turns out the mobo's socket was already faulty (10 years old fm2 socket)
If I were you I would run nzxt cam to see what's causing trouble. Memtest and hwinfo also can help identify issues with memory or gpu.
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Does your monitor support higher than 60fps? What resolution do you run the game at?
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Yes, a high poll rate can affect performance with really no benefit. I have a Logitech G502 that had the polling rate to 1000. I turned that down to 500 and felt an improvement.
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The issue here is the drops. I can reach it average,but I want to turn G-SYNC on to enjoy smoothness of that,but DBD has drops to 20-30FPS whenever you open a menu or do whatever,which causes flickering due to how often and drastically the refresh changes for my display....
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I doubt that my 1000HZ at best polling rate tanks my FPS.
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Yeah,I have 1440p 165HZ monitor,although usually I push it down to 144HZ. My rig usually breezes through anything and achieves stable framerate but... DBD's built different,lmao.
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That's good for you bro, I run a 3080, 5950x CPU and it still lags my game so do with the information what you want.
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Even newer next gen open world games such as Elden Ring and Horizon Forbidden West look and run amazingly even on my original old standard PS4; it’s definitely a case of poor optimisation and not a hardware problem.
Both those games are much bigger in scale and have many more systems happening in the world at the same time.
I wish they would focus less on adding new content which makes the game struggle more and concentrate on making sure the content that is already there performs to an acceptable standard on the platforms they are still charging money for the game/dlc on.
Very frustrating and makes me feel like we are not valued as customers despite making up a large part of the dwindling playerbase.
I really wanted to buy the Sadako chapter but playing a few games confirms that nothing has changed and I would be wasting my money on something that would have the same issues as the other content I bought and am dissatisfied with the performance of.
Sad and depressing.
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This game actually runs extremely well but is extremely fussy over specific settings which also change depending on what exactly you're using and trying to do.
The biggest problem this game has is that virtually every single bit of advice passed around in comments to every Guide and/or YouTube video with tips & tricks on how to make this game run better are almost all terrible advice copy & pasted from people that don't know what they're talking about in the slighting.
I've yet to read or watch one that doesn't have nearly all the same mindless advice some of which doesn't do anything but some of it creates more problems. For some reason that's all that exists for this game, it's actually pretty amazing and what's even more amazing is it has become universal that "DBD is just poorly optimized" and full of glitches when very close to 100% of the time it can be fixed on your end.
A couple of you that are having issues and are willing to put in a little effort and time in the next day or so let me know I'll help you make the game run so well it will blow your mind, ESPECIALLY if you've only ever had issues and have suffered through them for so long you can't remember.
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That's a simple fix, well it depends on which issue is causing it but both issues are no big deal.
You still need help with that?
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That's greatly improved on BHVRs end, however lots of people that were having the super slow updates was/is because of the way Windows and SSD / hybrid drives default settings were working with steam.
Yes you have to sit through the patching and verifying etc but disk usage would hit 100% and it would just get slower and slower and slower.
I made a video demonstrating how quickly my drives could read/write, then I started a steam update and point out how it starts off great but within a few seconds the disk usage would start dropping from ~500Mb/sec to less than 25MB making what should have been a 5 minute update into a more than 50 minute update.
Then I cancel the update, erase update files in cache so it will start over again next time I start Steam. Then I show the setting to change, which works instantly no restart needed, and fire up steam and the update happens in ~2 minutes or so and I cancel it just before it finishes so I can erase the files again, change that setting back and restart Steam to show how it goes back to terrible again.
Of course this only applies to SSD & Hybrid drives but it's very easy to tell just by watching your disk usage and whatnot to see if that's a problem.
Jump to 1:43 to see the problem, I only recorded copying the whole DBD folder because I needed a copy anyway and that way it would show the speeds that my system/drives could maintain.
3:15 How to fix
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Have you unlocked the fps to 120?
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I have a crummy Pc and to play the game at a 60 FPS that's not even stable I have to really mess around with my computer's settings, my in-game graphics settings (which are VERY limited, by the way) and do a bunch of other fun stuff.
I probably won't be able to play at all next patch. It's more of a me problem than a BHVR problem but still frustrating. At least I'm already planning to upgrade.
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I tried both that and without that,even locking the FPS to something a tad lower... Still bad.
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The thing is, for some reason when i play survivor my game is extremely smooth, but on killer it drops a lot
i think its the "visual intensity" or details that tend to lower fps, because let's say on trapper my fps is fine but on pyramid head if i lay down too many Torment Trails i feel my fps decaying slowly
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As expected,that wasn't the issue,lol. When the game stutters down to 20FPS because I opened a menu I highly doubt it's my mouse.
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Just offering a solution that worked for me, as you can see in the thread it worked for others too, don't understand what your point was with acting like it might not have been the issue when it has been for others.
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60 FPS on a game in 2022 is ridiculous.
Why is BHVR so scared of adding different settings? Why do I have to look at ray tracing on minimum settings when I can run the game on ultra but then have my PC shutdown because DBD decides to overheat my system where as something like Warzone barely gives a heat increase on max settings?
Where is the vsync? It’s 2022 people.
I can run like three games at once but as soon as I play DBD my fans have to be manually cranked to 100% constantly to try and lessen the damage on my system.
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vsync sometimes isn't desirable. Besides vsync is enabled by default. You have to disable it in the ini file.
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I'll post some setting for you to try later when I get home.
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