Range has been fixed. Now the nurse hate needs to stop.

True, I was speaking more from a Nurse perspective, though. Console nurse is much harder, and nowhere near as good as PC nurse.

SWF without Discord? Sure, you can say that. SWF with Discord? Completely different.

I've had just as many bad experiences facing toxic killers (mori cancelling, anyone...?) as I have facing toxic survivors.

This.

Yes, it really is a problem. If only these console players who play with restricted nurse and don't know what a real PC nurse can do would stop talking about things they know nothing of.

Of course the crying stopped when she was turned off. Since the crying is coming from people who can't stand to meet a powerful killer who gives them a hard time, if they can get away from this monstrous insurmountable difficulty (lol), they are very happy about it 😂

I've seen plenty of pity kills in my time, as well as having seen pity hatches. Your experience isn't shared by everyone, just like mine isn't.

I totally agree that a nurse who plays dirty, has the range addons + starstruck + agitation + lethal pursuer and plays on Midwich ... might as well say she tips the scales in her favor 🤣

I have the impression that many people associate "counterplay" with classic game counterplay.

Wouldn't the best counterplay against a nurse, besides being stealthy and breaking her LOS, be the speed of the rest of the team to make the generators as fast as possible to not let a snowball occure ?

No worries. :) And I take back my statement about not being able to discuss with a Nurse profile picture, you seem friendly and constructive.

I agree that liking things is subjective and changes should not be made based on what people enjoy or dislike. Changes should be made based on objective facts (such as 'this is too strong'), which in the end is something only the developers of this game can do, although we as players like to think we know better based on our subjective experiences.

You know, I like to tease people, to be a little bit sarcastic, but I'm just a player like all of you, nothing more, nothing less 🤗

I like DbD a lot, it's a nice game, of course, with its own flaws, but it has potential.

I really like the nurse, she is one of the strongest killers in the game, she has a unique power and I understand that she can't please everyone 🤔

When she could perform up to 5 tp, with only fatigue as a consequence, and no cooldown, I agree that she was way too powerful 😑

However, today, even though she remains on the podium of DbD killers, she is not the power monster she used to be; she is still very strong, but when facing a team of experts, she will be sweaty 😁

That's why I find it sad to see so many people spitting on it, trying to pass off a personal assessment as a general statement 😥

When I asked all these people to show us their gameplay against the nurse, it was not to make fun of them ... but simply because I am sure they would benefit from doing so 😉

I would love to be able to point out to them, from my modest level of nurse (I'm neither an expert nurse nor a competitive nurse), the mistakes I might notice, just so that they understand some things and improve 😉

An anecdote, like this: the other day, I was playing with some friends against a nurse; I died first (yes, shame, I know), and so I was looking at a friend's screen share...

At one point, she said "Oh my, she's really good". I didn't say anything, but I could see that in fact, the nurse wasn't that strong (yes, I know, I lost to a not OP nurse, I expect some people will seize on that fact to mock, but that's okay). I had also noticed that my friend played way too simply: she didn't run along the walls, her trajectories were way too linear and straight, she didn't try to take irrational directions to disrupt the nurse, etc.

The reason I tell this is that sometimes the survivor will feel, from HIS perspective, that he was overpowered by the nurse, when in fact, when you look at the scene with an outside eye, you realize that it was more like he was giving her too many opportunities.

There is another thing that I find unfortunate, in some players (survivors).

If you play the nurse, and you dare to point out that they were, for example, too greedy, too provocative, or toxic, often the answer is the same.

"Ha ha, you're complaining when you're playing nurse."

If they get run over, they complain that the nurse is too strong, but if THEY are pointed out as being unpleasant, they retort that I wasn't powerful enough. You can tell what kind of mentality you're dealing with when you read this kind of comment 🤣

And finally, I find it really annoying that when I elaborate on what I'm saying and try to discuss, you always get a guy who comes along, who doesn't give a damn, and just writes :

"Yeah, the nurse is too strong, she doesn't belong in the game, lol."

First of all I completely agree that the argument "It's complicated to play SO it's normal that it's powerful." is not valid😃

Well, let's say it's more subtle than that.

Let's say a killer is extremely complicated to master, like, really the infamous thing, you know.

And that in the end, he's trash-tiered. It wouldn't make sense 😑

On the other hand, I think it makes sense that a powerful killer takes practice.

On the other hand, you, like other people, bring up the fact that the nurse would be a "Vestige of the 2016s." On the contrary, I think that she has been redesigned to fit the game, and to offer a killer who, even if he is still very strong, has nothing to do with the original nurse.

So yes, they fixed some of the bugs she could encounter, but she's still very far from what she was initially.

Many players seem to "complain" about the fact that she bypasses the physical defenses of the survivors.

But ... that's the whole point of the character. And that's what makes her so interesting: she offers a gameplay, and a counterplay, different from all the other killers ☺️ You know, I love confronting nurses; and I don't say that because I'm an expert survivor that no nurse in the world can touch. Absolutely not, that's not the case at all by the way, I am a decent survivor, nothing more. I just love the fact that I'm facing this killer who interacts with his environment in such a unique way that is completely different from other killers 😋

The fact that you prefer to fight the other killers and not the nurse doesn't necessarily mean that it's her fault; it's your appreciation; I agree that she can't please everyone, but that's the principle of the world in general.

That's why I encourage the survivors who complain to show us how they play against her, because I'm sure there could be some constructive exchanges that would allow them to learn some things when playing against the nurse 🤗

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Thank you for the clarification Mandy, It's nice to know community feedback surrounding the addons have been listened to!

I thought those two addons were only increasing the speed of the blinks, when the blinks were less than 20 meters? And those two addons were fine when the blinks were over 20 meters?

Or were the under 20 meter blinks fine, and it was the over 20 meter blinks that were broken with those addons, because they didn’t override the blink duration cap?

There is so much conflicting information on these forums, that I’m honestly not sure what exactly was the issue with those two addons, and I’m still confused.

My understand of how Nurse blinks works is that the nurse has a min and max range along side a min and max duration. A 1.5m blink takes 0.25 seconds and a 20m blink takes 1.5 seconds. When you increase the max range of nurse the duration to reach max range doesn't change and as a side effect shorter blink ranges now take less time which causes her blinks to be faster with range addons.

The change here is that the max duration of nurse blinks is being increases so a 20m blink will always take 1.5 seconds and blinks above than range will take longer.

Thank you! That explains it.

My guess is that since nurse has a min duration, the game calculates the duration and distance and together as you charge her power. So increasing the distance means that the duration doesn't scale up 1:1 anymore.

I think many here don't know what a fix is. The addons weren't broken, they were working as they were designed to do.

This is a nerf, not a (bug) fix. You can't fix a bug that wasn't one to begin with. All one needed to understand how the addons interacted with the base blink was understand how time, distance and speed work together, that's basic maths.

yes, because besides nurse all other killers are m1 killers, giga brain.

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