Let Us Block People!

@Tsulan said:
Vietfox said:

Tsulan said:

Because survivors would block good killers, because they got outplayed.
System would be heavily abused. 

@Tsulan
Same can be said for killers. You could just have said "players", but noooo, only survivors lol.

Well I base that statement on MLGA. I can't really recall any killers blocking survivors issues. 
Survivors blocking killers on the other hand... made the devs take that program from the white list.

Killer dodge survivors. I know a killer main streamer for example who tends to dodge survivors he knows that they won't fall for his mindgames or chase style.
And I'm pretty sure that there are killers out there who act similar.

They already removed seeing the killer in the lobby as people could not only tell what achievements they had and saw what killer they may play but they blocked them in steam so they could dodge.

They should remove the option to see survivor names and profiles too as killers use that to dodge lobby and see if its SWF.

They also dodge for items when it's there to chose a setup to help with what survivors have,  also certain clothes so if the ones who do this keep dodging I fear they may alter that one day screwing over the ones who don't.

Both sides are as bad as each other when it comes to someone using a built in mechanic what they deem not fair, they want others to play the way they think they should and try to defend why they do it, this all shows how it would be a terrible idea to be able to block people in this game.

Vietfox said:

Tsulan said:

Vietfox said:

Tsulan said:

Because survivors would block good killers, because they got outplayed.
System would be heavily abused. 

@Tsulan
Same can be said for killers. You could just have said "players", but noooo, only survivors lol.

Well I base that statement on MLGA. I can't really recall any killers blocking survivors issues. 
Survivors blocking killers on the other hand... made the devs take that program from the white list.

@Tsulan
Maybe because killers can see their names and lobby dodge already?

Exactly. Now I don't have to explain to you,  why I wrote survivors would abuse the system.

powerbats said:

@Tsulan said:
Because survivors would block good killers, because they got outplayed.
System would be heavily abused. 

Yes because it's always the evil survivors that'd abuse this and not killers that we know for a fact are just as likely to use it because they got outplayed.

I know you're heavily biased and all but at least you could try and not be so obvious about it. 😁

Why would killers abuse it? They can see the names and dodge. 
Jesus christ... 
Instead of thinking for a second,  you complain how biased I am.

@EntityDispleased said:
When this game has something like 80-100k people playing on average at all times then sure, but right now we'll be blocking each other to the point where no one is going to get any games.

Overwatch had a lot more than that, IIRC, and it was still abused to the detriment of good players.

Delfador said:

@Tsulan said:
Vietfox said:

Tsulan said:

Because survivors would block good killers, because they got outplayed.
System would be heavily abused. 

@Tsulan
Same can be said for killers. You could just have said "players", but noooo, only survivors lol.

Well I base that statement on MLGA. I can't really recall any killers blocking survivors issues. 
Survivors blocking killers on the other hand... made the devs take that program from the white list.

The reason why killers don't use MLGA is because they don't have to. They can see survivors' names and dodge. They can even control people's steam accounts.

At least it is much more difficult for survivors.

I think I made my point clear. Or should I repeat, why killers don't need that system?

WhiteAqua7 said:

Tsulan said:

Because survivors would block good killers, because they got outplayed.
System would be heavily abused. 

Then there should be a game where survivors cannot use DS or instaheal and killers cannot use mori or 3 blinks on nurse or other op add ons. IDC that it splits the playerbase. I'd rather play with the few people who want the game to be fair. 

It's a 4vs1 game. 
What you described would be fair. You don't want fair. You just want easy escapes.

Delfador said:

@Tsulan said:

I think I made my point clear. Or should I repeat, why killers don't need that system?

@Tsulan said:
Because survivors would block good killers, because they got outplayed.
System would be heavily abused. 

Yes you did.

Killers already have that system so when they get outplayed, they can block good survivors.

So adding this system would benefit survivors not killers since killers already have it.

Since it is something that is in favor of survivors but not killers, it shouldn't be in the game. Only killers can abuse something like this, survivors shouldn't have this kind of advantage.

Clear

Missed the MLGA part? Devs had to act and remove it from the white list. Because survivors black listed every killer for the most ridiculous reasons. Like for example playing Freddy. 

Now that hurt the matchmaking badly, because they then dodged to many killer lobbies and no one could really play.

Survivors abused MLGA. It happened once, it would happen again. 

@Tsulan said:
Delfador said:

@Tsulan said:

I think I made my point clear. Or should I repeat, why killers don't need that system?

@Tsulan said:

Because survivors would block good killers, because they got outplayed.

System would be heavily abused. 

Yes you did.

Killers already have that system so when they get outplayed, they can block good survivors.

So adding this system would benefit survivors not killers since killers already have it.

Since it is something that is in favor of survivors but not killers, it shouldn't be in the game. Only killers can abuse something like this, survivors shouldn't have this kind of advantage.

Clear

Missed the MLGA part? Devs had to act and remove it from the white list. Because survivors black listed every killer for the most ridiculous reasons. Like for example playing Freddy. 

Now that hurt the matchmaking badly, because they then dodged to many killer lobbies and no one could really play.

Survivors abused MLGA. It happened once, it would happen again. 

No I didn't. MLGA is not an ingame feature, it is a program and survivors don't have access to that program all the time like killers can dodge. We are talking about an ingame feature, if survivors use MLGA all the time, might as well introduce the ingame block.

Yes as if killers don't dodge lobbies when they see p3 claudettes, flashlights, toolboxes, too many jakes, bright colored cosmetics. I have heard all of these excuses from forum killers. Again we are not saying that survivors or killers wouldn't abuse it. Everytime you try to vilify survivors, I will say the same thing for killers because players are the faulty ones, not a certain group. If a survivor dodge a killer for a ridicoulus reason, then you can be damn sure that something just as stupid is coming from the killer side.

This is the core discussion. I don't believe that @Vietfox or anybody who argues with you in this discussion want an ingame block. You try to make it look like survivors are satanic creatures that would mess up everything and abuse it, whereas killers are angels so you don't even need to mention them.

This is the reason why again @Vietfox said 'players instead of survivors'. I have no doubt that survivors would abuse it, just like killers.

Vietfox said:

Delfador said:

@Tsulan said:
Delfador said:

@Tsulan said:

I think I made my point clear. Or should I repeat, why killers don't need that system?

@Tsulan said:

Because survivors would block good killers, because they got outplayed.

System would be heavily abused. 

Yes you did.

Killers already have that system so when they get outplayed, they can block good survivors.

So adding this system would benefit survivors not killers since killers already have it.

Since it is something that is in favor of survivors but not killers, it shouldn't be in the game. Only killers can abuse something like this, survivors shouldn't have this kind of advantage.

Clear

Missed the MLGA part? Devs had to act and remove it from the white list. Because survivors black listed every killer for the most ridiculous reasons. Like for example playing Freddy. 

Now that hurt the matchmaking badly, because they then dodged to many killer lobbies and no one could really play.

Survivors abused MLGA. It happened once, it would happen again. 

No I didn't. MLGA is not an ingame feature, it is a program and survivors don't have access to that program all the time like killers can dodge. We are talking about an ingame feature, if survivors use MLGA all the time, might as well introduce the ingame block.

Yes as if killers don't dodge lobbies when they see p3 claudettes, flashlights, toolboxes, too many jakes, bright colored cosmetics. I have heard all of these excuses from forum killers. Again we are not saying that survivors or killers wouldn't abuse it. Everytime you try to vilify survivors, I will say the same thing for killers because players are the faulty ones, not a certain group. If a survivor dodge a killer for a ridicoulus reason, then you can be damn sure that something just as stupid is coming from the killer side.

This is the core discussion. I don't believe that @Vietfox or anybody who argues with you in this discussion want an ingame block. You try to make it look like survivors are satanic creatures that would mess up everything and abuse it, whereas killers are angels so you don't even need to mention them.

This is the reason why again @Vietfox said 'players instead of survivors'. I have no doubt that survivors would abuse it, just like killers.

@Delfador
Pretty much this, yup.
We are all people playing at this game, not 2 different species, and we can see the same behaviour on both sides.
If i have to point a especific role it's because:

A ) the discussion is related to said role

or

B ) the discussion is related to both roles but someone "forgot" to name one of them.

Ok, let's introduce this block feature. 
I guarantee you, that more survivors than killers make use of it. Simply by the fact, that killers don't need to block survivors to avoid playing against them.

You really want those times back, when MLGA was on it's highest point? 

@Tsulan said:

Ok, let's introduce this block feature. 
I guarantee you, that more survivors than killers make use of it. Simply by the fact, that killers don't need to block survivors to avoid playing against them.

You really want those times back, when MLGA was on it's highest point? 

Well given that there's more survivors than killers it's stand to reason logically that more survivors than killer would use it. But perhaps killers need a taste of the issue they faced before when MLGA was at it's peak so they'd stop lobby dodging.

I've been in countless full solo q lobbies where the moment anyone loads in with or equips a single item the killer dodges. Oh they've got all the achievements dodge, bright clothing dodge, key dodge, map dodge etc.

powerbats said:

@Tsulan said:

Ok, let's introduce this block feature. 
I guarantee you, that more survivors than killers make use of it. Simply by the fact, that killers don't need to block survivors to avoid playing against them.

You really want those times back, when MLGA was on it's highest point? 

Well given that there's more survivors than killers it's stand to reason logically that more survivors than killer would use it. But perhaps killers need a taste of the issue they faced before when MLGA was at it's peak so they'd stop lobby dodging.

I've been in countless full solo q lobbies where the moment anyone loads in with or equips a single item the killer dodges. Oh they've got all the achievements dodge, bright clothing dodge, key dodge, map dodge etc.

According to survivor mains, there are more killers than survivors now. 

Delfador said:

@Tsulan said:

Killers don't need to block anyone, because they can always see the lobby. They can dodge. They would dodge. 

Survivors can't see the killer. They would start blocking killers. Just like they did in the past with MLGA. Giving us the ability to block players would result in the same issues we had before. History would repeat itself. 

I'm not saying that survivors are evil and killers are angels. 

I fully recognize that killers dodge. 

This is the entire problem

Why killers get to recognize survivors and dodge the lobby but not survivors? Either let them both know who they are facing and block them, or nobody knows who they are up against.

We already have issues with killers dodging lobbies, might as well have issues survivors dodging killers. Why does the killer get the right to do so?

Oh wait killers are the power role right. I forgot.

Btw, you keep moving the goalpost.

No thanks, my encounters with toxic players is small enough for me to tolerate them every now and then.

@altruistic said:
You can avoid certain players from being on your team for 7 days in OverWatch. That is an actual competitive game though. This is a party game

there's a difference between "avoid having on my team" and "avoid having on the enemy team"
one is much more open for abuse