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Question to the DBD team.

Poweas
Poweas Member Posts: 5,872
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  1. Do you guys think that Spirit was worth it.

    So I heard from somewhere (can't remember where) that the DBD team spent somewhere around $30,000 on creating Spirit. So was she worth all that money? Is her result satisfying? I've always been curious since Spirit is my current main and favourite killer to play (joint with Hag) and I wondered if the devs thought the same.

  2. Will Nurse ever get a nerf?

I like Nurse a lot. I love her design, her unique power and her gameplay. But she's extremely strong. A streamer called Ardetha -who mains killer btw- made a point saying that Nurse will have to get nerfed or reworked one day. And that's made me wonder, will she ever get one since all killers are becoming so strong and soon survivors will become fodder to Leatherface the way it's going. Nurse is so overpowered right now but she's not over the top. The way the game is going, she will become over the top so will the devs make plans to nerf her or will she be left alone?

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  • PigNRun
    PigNRun Member Posts: 2,428
    In the current state of the game, where there are too few reliable killers, Nurse shouldnt get touched at all (maybe her multiple Blink add-ons, but whatever). Buff/Rework all low tier killers and then we can talk about her.

    As for Spirit, she was 100% worth it. She is one of the most appreciated and loved killer by the community and one of the high tier ones. She did get screwed a bit with the engine update, but that is a matter of getting it fixed.

    The advantage and possibilities from her power are the most original from all other killers, mainly mindgames. When its done correctly, such as grabbing someone from a generator/totem, getting a Survivor to run towards you, pallet mindgames, its the most satisfying moment you can get in a game.

    Her aesthetics, that is where most of the work went towards to. And the end result, outstanding. A badass lady with unique movement, so many facial expressions and interesting noises.

    That said, Im a Spirit main, so I might be just a bit biased.
  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 14,472

    Worth it until she got dumpstered this patch with the sounds and her blindness in spirit phase anyway.

  • dannyfrog87
    dannyfrog87 Member Posts: 568
    edited January 2019

    nurse over powered. she takes massive skill to use. and the maps are full of dead zones. things she cant blink through. "will have to get nerfed or reworked" absolutely not who cares if some streamer says oh i think this so its set in stone. if anything killers should be on the same level as her if you aint even half decent with nurse you get wrecked. she should stay as is and not nerfed. dont want her to turn into a freddy 2.0 turning her where her power goes against her into a potato

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555
    I'm not exactly sure where you're getting the $30,000 figure from. The cost of making a new character is basically just wages. All the audio and everything is done in house, it's an original character so there's no licensing deals.
  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872
    edited January 2019

    @dannyfrog87 said:
    nurse over powered. she takes massive skill to use. and the maps are full of dead zones. things she cant blink through. "will have to get nerfed or reworked" absolutely not who cares if some streamer says oh i think this so its set in stone. if anything killers should be on the same level as her if you aint even half decent with nurse you get wrecked. she should stay as is and not nerfed. dont want her to turn into a freddy 2.0 turning her where her power goes against her into a potato

    Thank god I'm a good Nurse lol. I was just wondering though. Also she doesn't take too much skill to master. She's got the same skill cap as Hag. Spirit takes massive skill

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  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872

    @Peanits said:
    I'm not exactly sure where you're getting the $30,000 figure from. The cost of making a new character is basically just wages. All the audio and everything is done in house, it's an original character so there's no licensing deals.

    Towards the bottom where it says trivia. https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Rin_Yamaoka. I found it just now. But do the team think she was worth it? I'm not in the team but I think she was worth it I always think of her as a gift to the community because of how great she is.

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872

    @PigNRun said:
    In the current state of the game, where there are too few reliable killers, Nurse shouldnt get touched at all (maybe her multiple Blink add-ons, but whatever). Buff/Rework all low tier killers and then we can talk about her.

    As for Spirit, she was 100% worth it. She is one of the most appreciated and loved killer by the community and one of the high tier ones. She did get screwed a bit with the engine update, but that is a matter of getting it fixed.

    The advantage and possibilities from her power are the most original from all other killers, mainly mindgames. When its done correctly, such as grabbing someone from a generator/totem, getting a Survivor to run towards you, pallet mindgames, its the most satisfying moment you can get in a game.

    Her aesthetics, that is where most of the work went towards to. And the end result, outstanding. A badass lady with unique movement, so many facial expressions and interesting noises.

    That said, Im a Spirit main, so I might be just a bit biased.

    I main her too. I think she was worth it. I love her mindgames, especially with A nurses calling. When you chase someone and phase when other people are healing in ur terror radius, they'll NEVER expect you to phase to them and smack them down. The sheer amount of jumpscares/DC's I get from it is amazing.

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872

    @dannyfrog87 said:
    nurse over powered. she takes massive skill to use. and the maps are full of dead zones. things she cant blink through. "will have to get nerfed or reworked" absolutely not who cares if some streamer says oh i think this so its set in stone. if anything killers should be on the same level as her if you aint even half decent with nurse you get wrecked. she should stay as is and not nerfed. dont want her to turn into a freddy 2.0 turning her where her power goes against her into a potato

    @PigNRun said:
    In the current state of the game, where there are too few reliable killers, Nurse shouldnt get touched at all (maybe her multiple Blink add-ons, but whatever). Buff/Rework all low tier killers and then we can talk about her.

    As for Spirit, she was 100% worth it. She is one of the most appreciated and loved killer by the community and one of the high tier ones. She did get screwed a bit with the engine update, but that is a matter of getting it fixed.

    The advantage and possibilities from her power are the most original from all other killers, mainly mindgames. When its done correctly, such as grabbing someone from a generator/totem, getting a Survivor to run towards you, pallet mindgames, its the most satisfying moment you can get in a game.

    Her aesthetics, that is where most of the work went towards to. And the end result, outstanding. A badass lady with unique movement, so many facial expressions and interesting noises.

    That said, Im a Spirit main, so I might be just a bit biased.

    There are a ton of reliable killers right now. Every single top tier killers are reliable. That is Nurse, Billy, Hag and Spirit. And a few mid tier killers are that's Myers, Huntress, Clown and Wraith (yes he's solid right now with windstorm). That's 8 killers out of 14. 6 aren't reliable. If you have trouble as those 8 killers then if it's Wraith, that's kind of understandable since he's reliable but he takes a hell of a learning curve to master his new speed burst. But the other 7 are very good and you should be solid.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    The only thing that I'd like to see changed on Nurse is omega blink Nurse since 2 is fine 3 is manageable but 4-5 is just plain wrong. I've faced some really good Nurse players using 5 blink builds and it's over within minutes.

  • Victory
    Victory Member Posts: 166

    @powerbats said:
    The only thing that I'd like to see changed on Nurse is omega blink Nurse since 2 is fine 3 is manageable but 4-5 is just plain wrong. I've faced some really good Nurse players using 5 blink builds and it's over within minutes.

    its over in minutes with omega blink too.

  • akbays35
    akbays35 Member Posts: 1,123

    Nurse is unplayable on console... just throwing that out there, she's weaker than wraith even in the right hands. I would like it if they just gave her a rework where she normal killer movement and can just walk through objects at 105-110% with her stun afterwards.

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872

    @akbays35 said:
    Nurse is unplayable on console... just throwing that out there, she's weaker than wraith even in the right hands. I would like it if they just gave her a rework where she normal killer movement and can just walk through objects at 105-110% with her stun afterwards.

    Are you joking? They're going to fix her on console with the FPS fix, plus even if they don't you got Hag, who is the 2nd strongest killer on console (to Billy) and she is very similar to Nurse. On console once they fix the FPS, Nurse will be great. But buffing her is NOT a good idea. She's overpowered enough as it is right now.

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872

    @Victory said:

    @powerbats said:
    The only thing that I'd like to see changed on Nurse is omega blink Nurse since 2 is fine 3 is manageable but 4-5 is just plain wrong. I've faced some really good Nurse players using 5 blink builds and it's over within minutes.

    its over in minutes with omega blink too.

    Is omega blink 3-5 blinks or is it when a Nurse has both range addons? Nobody ever explained it to me lol.

  • akbays35
    akbays35 Member Posts: 1,123

    @Poweas said:

    @akbays35 said:
    Nurse is unplayable on console... just throwing that out there, she's weaker than wraith even in the right hands. I would like it if they just gave her a rework where she normal killer movement and can just walk through objects at 105-110% with her stun afterwards.

    Are you joking? They're going to fix her on console with the FPS fix, plus even if they don't you got Hag, who is the 2nd strongest killer on console (to Billy) and she is very similar to Nurse. On console once they fix the FPS, Nurse will be great. But buffing her is NOT a good idea. She's overpowered enough as it is right now.

    shes unplayable on console because of controls, not so much fps (that slows down survivors as well so it can be a crutch) due to Nurses' having to blink and 360 it makes her much harder to play on controller, they could fix this with an instant 360 turn button (that would be epic for some killers).

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872

    @akbays35 said:

    @Poweas said:

    @akbays35 said:
    Nurse is unplayable on console... just throwing that out there, she's weaker than wraith even in the right hands. I would like it if they just gave her a rework where she normal killer movement and can just walk through objects at 105-110% with her stun afterwards.

    Are you joking? They're going to fix her on console with the FPS fix, plus even if they don't you got Hag, who is the 2nd strongest killer on console (to Billy) and she is very similar to Nurse. On console once they fix the FPS, Nurse will be great. But buffing her is NOT a good idea. She's overpowered enough as it is right now.

    shes unplayable on console because of controls, not so much fps (that slows down survivors as well so it can be a crutch) due to Nurses' having to blink and 360 it makes her much harder to play on controller, they could fix this with an instant 360 turn button (that would be epic for some killers).

    Er no. I had 600 hours on console and about 10 Nurse games. She's hard but she's not unplayable. I have managed to 4 man with her on console. I had the Game map to my advatage but I did manage to 4 man. She takes a lot of skill. Just increase the turning rate on console and fix the fps and she's FINE. No need for those buffs you mentioned. When it comes to console, I know a lot about that enviroment so don't try tricking me into thinking she's unplayable ;).

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    Nurse is still the only killer that can compete with competent swf

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872

    @Master said:
    Nurse is still the only killer that can compete with competent swf

    Yeah thats why I didn't say she needs one now, I said over the course of the games future.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Poweas said:

    @Master said:
    Nurse is still the only killer that can compete with competent swf

    Yeah thats why I didn't say she needs one now, I said over the course of the games future.

    Unless I missed sth, there is no intention to nerf SWF. SO why should change anythign in the future?

  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    edited January 2019
    powerbats said:

    The only thing that I'd like to see changed on Nurse is omega blink Nurse since 2 is fine 3 is manageable but 4-5 is just plain wrong. I've faced some really good Nurse players using 5 blink builds and it's over within minutes.

    What do you mean with omegablink? Range or more blinks?
    Also, imo a good nurse player don't use more than 2 blinks, but addons to reduce fatigue, speed ur blink travel 
  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872

    @Master said:

    @Poweas said:

    @Master said:
    Nurse is still the only killer that can compete with competent swf

    Yeah thats why I didn't say she needs one now, I said over the course of the games future.

    Unless I missed sth, there is no intention to nerf SWF. SO why should change anythign in the future?

    Fair enough I guess. I don't have a problem with her myself, since I run Iron wil but I was wondering.

  • Victory
    Victory Member Posts: 166

    @Poweas said:

    @Victory said:

    @powerbats said:
    The only thing that I'd like to see changed on Nurse is omega blink Nurse since 2 is fine 3 is manageable but 4-5 is just plain wrong. I've faced some really good Nurse players using 5 blink builds and it's over within minutes.

    its over in minutes with omega blink too.

    Is omega blink 3-5 blinks or is it when a Nurse has both range addons? Nobody ever explained it to me lol.

    its ataxic respiration, and catatonic boy's treasure ( the range addons)
    Because the blink accuracy isn't an actual stat.

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872

    @Victory said:

    @Poweas said:

    @Victory said:

    @powerbats said:
    The only thing that I'd like to see changed on Nurse is omega blink Nurse since 2 is fine 3 is manageable but 4-5 is just plain wrong. I've faced some really good Nurse players using 5 blink builds and it's over within minutes.

    its over in minutes with omega blink too.

    Is omega blink 3-5 blinks or is it when a Nurse has both range addons? Nobody ever explained it to me lol.

    its ataxic respiration, and catatonic boy's treasure ( the range addons)
    Because the blink accuracy isn't an actual stat.

    They're ridiculously overpowered. I use it as Nurse. Unless I'm in Yamokas estate (where I struggle to find even 1 survivor), I do extremely well

  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    Poweas said:

    @Victory said:

    @Poweas said:

    @Victory said:

    @powerbats said:
    The only thing that I'd like to see changed on Nurse is omega blink Nurse since 2 is fine 3 is manageable but 4-5 is just plain wrong. I've faced some really good Nurse players using 5 blink builds and it's over within minutes.

    its over in minutes with omega blink too.

    Is omega blink 3-5 blinks or is it when a Nurse has both range addons? Nobody ever explained it to me lol.

    its ataxic respiration, and catatonic boy's treasure ( the range addons)
    Because the blink accuracy isn't an actual stat.

    They're ridiculously overpowered. I use it as Nurse. Unless I'm in Yamokas estate (where I struggle to find even 1 survivor), I do extremely well

    I don't see why these addons are overpowered tbh. Yes they are strong, but op? I mean, these addons are helping to cover distance quick, mostly for patrolling gens. But in a chase it's like beeing addonless, they don't really help 
  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Poweas said:

    @Victory said:

    @Poweas said:

    @Victory said:

    @powerbats said:

    The only thing that I'd like to see changed on Nurse is omega blink Nurse since 2 is fine 3 is manageable but 4-5 is just plain wrong. I've faced some really good Nurse players using 5 blink builds and it's over within minutes.

    its over in minutes with omega blink too.

    Is omega blink 3-5 blinks or is it when a Nurse has both range addons? Nobody ever explained it to me lol.

    its ataxic respiration, and catatonic boy's treasure ( the range addons)

    Because the blink accuracy isn't an actual stat.

    They're ridiculously overpowered. I use it as Nurse. Unless I'm in Yamokas estate (where I struggle to find even 1 survivor), I do extremely well

    I don't see why these addons are overpowered tbh. Yes they are strong, but op? I mean, these addons are helping to cover distance quick, mostly for patrolling gens. But in a chase it's like beeing addonless, they don't really help 

    They actually make a strange difference in chase. You need to charge your blinks less to cover the same distance as you would in base but way faster to cover it if u get what I mean.

  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    Poweas said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Poweas said:

    @Victory said:

    @Poweas said:

    @Victory said:

    @powerbats said:

    The only thing that I'd like to see changed on Nurse is omega blink Nurse since 2 is fine 3 is manageable but 4-5 is just plain wrong. I've faced some really good Nurse players using 5 blink builds and it's over within minutes.

    its over in minutes with omega blink too.

    Is omega blink 3-5 blinks or is it when a Nurse has both range addons? Nobody ever explained it to me lol.

    its ataxic respiration, and catatonic boy's treasure ( the range addons)

    Because the blink accuracy isn't an actual stat.

    They're ridiculously overpowered. I use it as Nurse. Unless I'm in Yamokas estate (where I struggle to find even 1 survivor), I do extremely well

    I don't see why these addons are overpowered tbh. Yes they are strong, but op? I mean, these addons are helping to cover distance quick, mostly for patrolling gens. But in a chase it's like beeing addonless, they don't really help 

    They actually make a strange difference in chase. You need to charge your blinks less to cover the same distance as you would in base but way faster to cover it if u get what I mean.

    Really? I never noticed a difference if switch to them 
  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Poweas said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:

    Poweas said:

    @Victory said:

@Poweas said:

@Victory said:

@powerbats said:

The only thing that I'd like to see changed on Nurse is omega blink Nurse since 2 is fine 3 is manageable but 4-5 is just plain wrong. I've faced some really good Nurse players using 5 blink builds and it's over within minutes.



its over in minutes with omega blink too.



Is omega blink 3-5 blinks or is it when a Nurse has both range addons? Nobody ever explained it to me lol.

    its ataxic respiration, and catatonic boy's treasure ( the range addons)

    Because the blink accuracy isn't an actual stat.



They're ridiculously overpowered. I use it as Nurse. Unless I'm in Yamokas estate (where I struggle to find even 1 survivor), I do extremely well

    I don't see why these addons are overpowered tbh. Yes they are strong, but op? I mean, these addons are helping to cover distance quick, mostly for patrolling gens. But in a chase it's like beeing addonless, they don't really help 

    They actually make a strange difference in chase. You need to charge your blinks less to cover the same distance as you would in base but way faster to cover it if u get what I mean.

    Really? I never noticed a difference if switch to them 

    I do.

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647
    When and if secondary objectives come into play then nurse may need to get toned down but not until then... 
  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    Poweas said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Poweas said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:

    Poweas said:

    @Victory said:

@Poweas said:

@Victory said:

@powerbats said:

The only thing that I'd like to see changed on Nurse is omega blink Nurse since 2 is fine 3 is manageable but 4-5 is just plain wrong. I've faced some really good Nurse players using 5 blink builds and it's over within minutes.



its over in minutes with omega blink too.



Is omega blink 3-5 blinks or is it when a Nurse has both range addons? Nobody ever explained it to me lol.

    its ataxic respiration, and catatonic boy's treasure ( the range addons)

    Because the blink accuracy isn't an actual stat.



They're ridiculously overpowered. I use it as Nurse. Unless I'm in Yamokas estate (where I struggle to find even 1 survivor), I do extremely well

    I don't see why these addons are overpowered tbh. Yes they are strong, but op? I mean, these addons are helping to cover distance quick, mostly for patrolling gens. But in a chase it's like beeing addonless, they don't really help 

    They actually make a strange difference in chase. You need to charge your blinks less to cover the same distance as you would in base but way faster to cover it if u get what I mean.

    Really? I never noticed a difference if switch to them 

    I do.

    Good to know, will try to pay attention to that next time. It really felt the same for me. Under that point it sounds really strong 
  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872

    @Bravo0413 said:
    When and if secondary objectives come into play then nurse may need to get toned down but not until then... 

    All killers are starting to become viable slowly so once they're all viable, the devs will have to nerf her at some point.

  • Victory
    Victory Member Posts: 166

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Poweas said:

    @Victory said:

    @Poweas said:

    @Victory said:

    @powerbats said:

    The only thing that I'd like to see changed on Nurse is omega blink Nurse since 2 is fine 3 is manageable but 4-5 is just plain wrong. I've faced some really good Nurse players using 5 blink builds and it's over within minutes.

    its over in minutes with omega blink too.

    Is omega blink 3-5 blinks or is it when a Nurse has both range addons? Nobody ever explained it to me lol.

    its ataxic respiration, and catatonic boy's treasure ( the range addons)

    Because the blink accuracy isn't an actual stat.

    They're ridiculously overpowered. I use it as Nurse. Unless I'm in Yamokas estate (where I struggle to find even 1 survivor), I do extremely well

    I don't see why these addons are overpowered tbh. Yes they are strong, but op? I mean, these addons are helping to cover distance quick, mostly for patrolling gens. But in a chase it's like beeing addonless, they don't really help 

    they dont COVER distance quicker, it gives more distance TO cover which are different things. They are game breaking op, end the "chase" in 5s or less. A good nurse will 4k in about a minute with this, but its not being good, just a mediocre nurse will 4k with this, and a bad nurse will get kills no matter what, there is no excuse in it.