10 Solutions for the EGC problem, and yes, it IS a problem

The EGC is not about letting the survivors out 9/10 cases. The EGC is here to prevent games to be drawn out to infinity.

If you are the last survivor and the killer found the hatch before you, you just were unlucky. you can try out to open a gate, that's it.

Both of you can move on to a new game.

Solution 1: EGC does not trigger when the hatch is closed.

-If the hatch closed the game could go on forever. One survivor doing how many gens? 1-5 with the new hatch. That's not realistic.

Solution 2: Make the hatch visible to all players at the start of every trial.

-Almost every killer have a higher movement speed than the survivors, that's just unfair to play against.

Solution 3: 60 seconds is added to the EGC timer for every survivor that was sacrificed/killed.

-the entire point of the EGC is to wrap the game up, not elongate it.

Solution 4: Every map has a special chest that cannot be opened until EGC has triggered, in the chest is a purple key.

-free item, that can be trapped and camped...not so good.

Solution 5: Exit Gates ALWAYS spawn as far as possible from each other.

-should be the case.

If your teammates supposedly are potato... Have you thought about trying to play for pips and rank up so you get matched with survivors equal to your skill level? You don't need to escape in order to pip.

You do realize the hatch exists. Yes the Killer will often find it first but he also often won't.

Chill down, yo!

I won't even announce how your decisions won't work and how EGC is meant to be that way for a reason and you get a easy escape for doing bad and not working together cause others have done it for me.

If hatch spawned at the beginning of the match, I could just bring my Pink key and jump through at the start of the match every game.

Just add an option to surrender once the EGC has started. I'm sick of waiting 2 minute and a half because toxic killer decided to slug me.

As you put it "it's not the killers fault" but you would like to see them penalised in some way for it. The survivors are DCing in droves when things don't go their way, survivors will spam killers with hateful messages whenever they win or lose. Survivors say looping is the new meta and killers should git gud but are constantly complaining that the nurse is to OP because she can beating the looping tactic. I use to give the last person the hatch but i also use to have messages turned on. There is no reason for the devs to change the EGC, first to the hatch wins and survivor players don't exactly inspire killers to be generous.

"EGC stops hatch stand offs." This isn't entirely a thing. If killers want to get their sweat on for that glorious 4k, all the killer has to do is sit on the hatch, wait for the survivor to come along and bam. they are focked (at least this gives insidious utility besides camping /s). The survivor does not have many options in regards to their survival if this happens. They could just wait the killer out leading to a stealthy stand off. They could do a generator, but that of course would reveal their location and depending on map size and current generator placement in regards to the hatch placement, could simply be their death. Then of course are keys but that's not really something to always rely on is it. Or, just die. if the killer closes the hatch and the gates are powered, if the gates are both visible with a few seconds of walking distance if that, is a guaranteed kill and then leads to the question of if it was actually earnt, as they only got the kill due to garbage door placement.

Now I am not saying "gIvE sURviVOrS a FrEe EsCApE" but it should be made more fair so there is actually a possibility of an escape being earnt by that survivor in the timer of the collapse. whether that be door placements being more distant, but not complete opposite sides, door timer slowly opening when a chase is initiated, hatch opening at another random location after a certain amount of time after its closed (and this cant happen more than maybe like twice idk). As far as I'm aware the EGC was to shorten the end of the game, not guarantee free kills or escapes and what was deemed a "win" iirc was 2 kills and 2 escape.

Playing killer and having god tier door placements, superb mobility of the meta killers or simply just finding them and that alone securing the kill and not needing any skill whatsoever to get that kill feels extremely unfair, and it feels unfair when you receive it too.

I personally dislike the EGC, I like the idea of it but I dislike the easy guarantees it creates.

Also stop that garbage where people slug you as a toy so you can be killed by the entity. it was bad enough that they never had a chance of escaping, and now have to wait for a minute or so before being able to leave the game.

also I forgot to mention, I thought the option of being able to play "selfishly" was exposed to be a thing in this game, and one option that was actually advertised. Ofc we all hate that meg that sits in the locker or the claudette that hides in that bush, but If I recall that was exposed to be an option in regards to a pathway of escape.

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The survivor isn't in control, and is forced with a fake dichotomy. They don't even have a 50/50 chance of escaping as the killer can choose what gate to go to. and none of this even adresses issues like gate spawns.

I have only been referring to the EGC being triggered by hatch when there is only 1 survivor.

I have no issues with EGC when there is more than 1 survivor.

the last survivor, yet again has factors in regards to even if they can even reach a gate if they power it, let alone open it. hatch spawn, gate placement, gen positioning, all affects this, and more often than not the survivor is not in a position to do more than 1 gen anyway. you are failing to take this into account.

And lets be honest, it does not really mean the killer has "killed" other 3 people. DCs occur way more often then they should ruining the teams chances of winning at that point alone. Suicides occur resulting in the same manner, people go afk, or ranks just mess everything up. There a lot more factors at play than the very simplified outcomes you are giving.

EGC should be a problem for a single survivor; bring or find a key. However, I've run into other issues:

Finding the hatch after a gate is open, hoping/needing to use it to escape and the second to last survivor waiting until the last second to leave so the last survivor dies before the hatch actually opens (there is a delay of a few seconds). Now survivors are being toxic to other survivors...great; some people just want to be toxic however they can.

Two survivors are left but the gates are so close, they had no chance to open them without being caught and actually died to the timer. I think someone must have used a key and the killer closed the hatch after. I'm not sure how else this could occur.

Even if your assumption is true, how is that a problem? Why should the last survivor have a good chance of escaping? It's co-op mode and 3 other teammates died

survivor finds the hatch first: free escape

killer finds it first: almost guaranteed kill

look at it from this perspective. the mechanic actually favours survivors by giving them another second chance to escape, after the first one has been disabled.

you should be thankful that there even is a secondary chance for you in the first place. killers dont get that! if the survivor finds the hatch, the match is over. if the killer finds the hatch, the survivor can still take the gates.

yes thats harder than just pressing M1 and immediately escaping, but hey, its possible.

I'm a solo survivor.

EGC is fine.

Just rework Left Behind to where solution 4 occurs when you become the last survivor remaining. A chest with a key spawns somewhere on the map. You still have to find it as well as find the hatch (unless you find the hatch first and don’t even need the key, obviously), so this is by no means a free escape.

@Peanits what about something like that? Again, the chest does not spawn until that survivor is left behind. So they wouldn’t be able to find the chest earlier in the game.