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Devs/Mods: DC'ing on the PTB = bannable?

kamisen
kamisen Member Posts: 794

Does disconnecting on the PTB count towards your overall DC-stat? In other words, can you get banned on the regular version if you DC on the PTB?

I've met some slugging Freddies, and I'd rather not waste my time on the test version.

Comments

  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270

    I'm curious about it too.

    If he slugs while the game is on, and you have a chance to get healed up, you shouldn't DC though. If he's slugging for 4K, that's stupid (I mean it's smart but in the PTB is pointless).

  • Remi1993
    Remi1993 Member Posts: 88

    Yeah, ban for dcing xD 10 times people disconnected because killer found them, not on PTB... I hope devs will put something to punish those coward people, if they DC 3 times then they cant play for 1 day or something like that, do something already they are ruining our game... And I see people recording and putting on youtube how they join a match and disconnect to troll them... awesome, pretty good job so far.

  • DrDeepwound
    DrDeepwound Member Posts: 2,557

    I hope not, we DC when testing things in PTB all the time, we test stuff DC to get out fast etc,...

  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320

    Yeah I think the DCs are tracked just the same on PTB.. I don't think it actually knows the difference if you are live or on the PTB when tracking it.

  • DrDeepwound
    DrDeepwound Member Posts: 2,557
    edited July 2019

    can we get a mod/dev comment?

    I only go on PTB to test stuff, often in KYF, and dont want any friendly test DC stuff to affect my account, I never DC on Live.

  • CakeDuty
    CakeDuty Member Posts: 1,065

    DC'ing in a PTB is generally pretty stupid. The only reason I'd DC from a PTB match is if it's a PTB for a new killer or killer rework and someone plays a killer that hasn't been changed.

    Sorry, I played this PTB to try playing against the new Freddy, not to play against your Iri Huntress with ebony mori

  • DrDeepwound
    DrDeepwound Member Posts: 2,557


    I am referring to KYF PTB testing, what is LOl about that?


    Do you guys not test things in PTB?

  • OMagic_ManO
    OMagic_ManO Member Posts: 3,278

    I can't tell you my dude but all I can say if slugging Freddy is meta and all you come across, make a build to adjust to the bad things, prepare for the worst, all you can do.

  • kamisen
    kamisen Member Posts: 794


    @ShrekIsHot

    Hey man. I get you're trying to give me solid advice here, but I'm not complaining about the slug builds. I just don't care to spend my time on the PTB if someone wants to slug all survivors to death.

  • OMagic_ManO
    OMagic_ManO Member Posts: 3,278

    @kamisen

    It's gonna be the same thing with Ghostface, people will play him a lot in one style and then the play rate will die down, you'll just have to wait my man. People gave up Ghostface due to how easy it is to become a easily looped M1 killer, just wait PTB out I guess? Rare to see any other Killer after release.

  • kamisen
    kamisen Member Posts: 794



    @George_Soros Nah, I'm not DC'ing in those cases. I'm talking about when players aim to grief/waste players' time.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 8,177

    That's not how your unedited post read, as per my quote.

    Your unedited post was indeed hilarious.

  • DrDeepwound
    DrDeepwound Member Posts: 2,557

    Not really, I edited it to clarify what I meant, but I didnt change the meaning or anything.

    I thought it would be obvious what I meant, but I guess not. When I do PTB I am a killer main so I like to test stuff, we often do KYF and we will test something then DC to get out and maybe try different map.

    Not sure what even is funny about it tbh. Definitely not "hilarious"

  • kamisen
    kamisen Member Posts: 794

    @ShrekIsHot Are your replying to someone else? I literally just said I don't have a problem with Freddy slug-builds. I don't have a problem with Ghosface either.

    This post is about how the game handles D/Cs between the BETA-version of the game and the real version.

  • OMagic_ManO
    OMagic_ManO Member Posts: 3,278

    @kamisen

    It was more of a general thing, to be clear, DC's shouldn't have effect in PTB but what's the point in DC'ing in PTB. I heard your point and I get that but people will DC as soon as the game starts cause it's Freddy, not cause of anything else, screwing their team over.

  • kamisen
    kamisen Member Posts: 794


    @CakeDuty I don't think DCing in general is a good thing. But I think the PTB creates some edge-cases where disconnecting may be a viable option. There is no transferable rank, no BP gain/loss and no item gain/loss. If someone griefs, I may as well disconnect instead.

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555

    No, it's completely separate from the live game. Though you still shouldn't do it since it's just for testing, and disconnecting defeats the whole point of the test.

  • kamisen
    kamisen Member Posts: 794

    @ShrekIsHot I mean, the purpose of the PTB is to test new features of the game. It would be utterly pointless to go through all that hassle just to disconnect whenever they meet a Freddy.

    As for me, when I play on the PTB I don't want to waste my time in matches where a player is griefing by (as in my case) slugging to death.

  • OMagic_ManO
    OMagic_ManO Member Posts: 3,278

    @kamisen

    That ######### is so stupid, I don't know man. It'd be funny if Freddy slugging made No Mither useful.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 8,177


    Disconnecting from a public match in a risk free environment shows a laughable lack of character and respect both for your teammates, the game, and the PTB process itself.

    As you have edited your post since my initial comment, this will hopefully clear things up for you, though it does not apply to/impact KYF at all ;3

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 8,177

    Peanits dropping dem Truth Bombs

  • DrDeepwound
    DrDeepwound Member Posts: 2,557

    What are you talking about?

    I specifically said KYF, meaning me and freidns load intp PTB to test things, such as when the medium vault changes were introduced.

    We will test things and then instead of waiting for them to do the gens and exit we will DC to test the next thing.

    I think people are confusing ACTUALLY testying things with friends and playing matches on PTB.

    Chill with the personal insults, I am talking about something you obviously do not do, but many of us actually "test things" not play matches. And THAt is what I was referring to, your comments about my charachter are uncalled for when you dont even grasp what I am talking about.

  • DrDeepwound
    DrDeepwound Member Posts: 2,557

    You clearly do not understand what I am talking about.

    I specifically referring to loading in PTB with friends to test things. For example when the vault changes were introduced, we will log on test vaults then as killer host I will DC to test next thing.

    Your personal insults are uncalled for, as you seem to not grasp I am referring to testing things with friends, not playing public matches and Dcing because of slugging. I am not talking about that.

  • darktrix
    darktrix Member Posts: 1,790

    Do they need to test being slugged for 4 minutes? I am pretty sure that works fine. If you want testing and the killer is doing the usual toxic behavior (which is wasting time and preventing useful testing) I don't see a problem with this.

  • Madjura
    Madjura Member Posts: 2,618

    What about reports, e.g. death threats (or anything else along those lines that should be an immediate ban) sent in postgame chat on the PTB?

  • kamisen
    kamisen Member Posts: 794

    @Peanits Hey Peanits, glad you joined the discussion.

    Just to be clear: I'm not talking about slugging in general, but the kind of slug that only serves to waste a player's time. A killer who is refusing to engage in hunts with other survivors and who is making sure that one player in particular is staying on the ground, is a griefer in my book. Likewise, someone who spams the mori, is a griefer in my book. All intended game mechanics, but abused beyond intention to ruin someone else's experience. I would love to get to know BHVR's stance on this.

    While I wouldn't DC in a normal game, I don't want to sit through that BS in a PTB. Again, I'm referring to cases where the killer is griefing (my definition) not using various strategies in the game.

  • DrDeepwound
    DrDeepwound Member Posts: 2,557

    I recommend KYF on PTB to test things that are being changed, I have done it for awhile now and wanted clarification if DCing in those testings went against your account.

    We test all kinds of things in PTB KYF, its how we knew about WakeUp bug before the general public did. I dnot recommend trying to test things in public matches unless its something you cant test with friends in KYF.

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555

    That would still be bannable and we would transfer that to the live version. There's no excuse for it, and a test build isn't a free pass. It's along the same lines as cheating; there's no excuse for it no matter what build you're on.

    Gameplay-wise, what happens on the PTB stays on the PTB. We wouldn't ban people for testing something in the test build. If there's something that could be abused, we'd want to know about it, not have people feel scared to report it at the risk of being banned.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 8,177


    You made a post without stating what you meant/incomplete information (no mention of KYF).

    I made a comment based on that information (DC'ing in public PTB matches is bad).

    You clarified that you meant KYF matches, which is a totally different/untracked scenario.

    If you did not clarify that point, how would anyone know that you were not DC'ing from PTB matches in your OP, ruining the game/dev stats for anyone involved?

  • kamisen
    kamisen Member Posts: 794


    @Peanits Can you reply to my comment above? I really want to know BHVR's stance on what counts as griefing.

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555

    Mori spamming would be a no-go, there's no practical reason to do that. Assuming it's on live, it would be considered griefing.

    Slugging someone regardless wouldn't be bannable though. They will bleed out after a while, and there are times that slugging might be the right move (if they have DS for example).

  • DrDeepwound
    DrDeepwound Member Posts: 2,557


    you began your personal insults not only after I edited the post to clarify" but I also made a second post specifying it as well, yet you continued to post as if I did not mean "KYF" then after not understanding multiple posts you begin insulting.

    You clewarly knew I meant KYF before you began insulting me for "disconnecting in public matches" which you shoulve grasped that long ago. You literally skipped over like 3 posts me saying "KYF" when started with "shows a lack of charachter" in fact you quoted me numerous times knowing I meant KYF before you replied with insults.

    Every post is timestamped and you can clearly see I meant KYF.

    My original post was at 6:09 am, I specified what I eanmt in another post at 6:27 am and another at 6:29 am you then acknowledged I meant KYF at 6:56 am and I clarified it AGAIn for you at 6:59 am then over 1 hour from my original post, and after 4 posts of me telling you I meant KYF, youmade another post insinuating I had lack of charachter for disconecting in public matches,.

    you really need to look at trhe timestamps, I made like 4 posts saying KYF and you skimmed over them all to insult me.

    Thje only thing lacking in this thread is your reading com prehension to be honest, as I stated what I meant MULTIPLE times you just didnt read the thread at all.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 8,177

    I will most definitely try to work on my reading comprehension for future engagements.